Why Do Charismatics Tend To Be CharisMANIACS?
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I'm wondering why they aren't interested in Biblical teaching if they are born again but prefer the weirdness instead. Like Bethel Church in Redding CA. They prefer sucking on tombstones and claiming feathers and gold, and diamonds fall from the ceiling rather than learning what the Bible actually says.
So....you saying that he has demons??? 
As for the wisdom of "So you're saying" summaries, watch how Jordan Peterson responded to Cathy Newman... it's on YouTube.
You haven't acknowledged that your opening post poisoned the conversation from the start.
I belonged to a charismatic-leaning Pentecostal Church for a number of years, so I do know something of it, yes. I could almost say it was one reason I left that particular church. However I have to add that they (my old church) are more orthodox in overall doctrine than you might think. I lack the experience of attending other and fuller charismatic assemblies to say much more than that at this point in time.
I'm open to further spiritual discovery in this area. Go for it!
I'm open to further spiritual discovery in this area. Go for it!
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I dont remeber Jesus bashing anyones head with a rock, he actually said that the one without sin should cast the first stone. Plus everyone who follows Christ gets born new in the spirit. That is foundation doctrine.
Jesus wouldnt bash anyone, he would tell them the truth, shake the dust off of his feet and go on. Which u arent doing. U are spreading division and hatred.
Jesus wouldnt bash anyone, he would tell them the truth, shake the dust off of his feet and go on. Which u arent doing. U are spreading division and hatred.
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I think you are using a broad brush against people. Narrow the focus or stop bashing, it really is your choice.
Charismatics were born out of the Catholic Renewal, this included Lutherans, Catholics, etc.,
Pentecostals[Church of God, Assembly of God, Apostolic Faith, Holiness, Oneness] were all born out of doctrinal splits.
The you have those splinter groups that were usually from the Assembly of God and followed the WOF movement and stayed there. You also have another group called the NAR that are demonic as can be and IHOP and A bunch of other
Then you have the very Biblical and correct Full Gospel believing groups that are not charismatics, Pentecostal , NAR, Prosperity, WOF, IHOP etc.
These are usually the 4 square, Nazarene, and non-denominational Full Gospel places. The church of the Nazarene were the Pentecost/Full Gospel believers that came out of the Methodists, when the Methodists shifted to more liberal theology and social justice issues. Methodists by and large are now returning more towards their Wesleyan roots, which is very Biblical as Wesley preached and tuaght it. The Nazarene's never departed from things like progressive sanctification, the gifts and 5 fold ministry gifts.
When you swipe with that foolish, broad brush you are slinging, you anger people and even me, because you are suggesting I am something I am not and imply I condone behavior and false teachings I detest.
Charismatics were born out of the Catholic Renewal, this included Lutherans, Catholics, etc.,
Pentecostals[Church of God, Assembly of God, Apostolic Faith, Holiness, Oneness] were all born out of doctrinal splits.
The you have those splinter groups that were usually from the Assembly of God and followed the WOF movement and stayed there. You also have another group called the NAR that are demonic as can be and IHOP and A bunch of other
Then you have the very Biblical and correct Full Gospel believing groups that are not charismatics, Pentecostal , NAR, Prosperity, WOF, IHOP etc.
These are usually the 4 square, Nazarene, and non-denominational Full Gospel places. The church of the Nazarene were the Pentecost/Full Gospel believers that came out of the Methodists, when the Methodists shifted to more liberal theology and social justice issues. Methodists by and large are now returning more towards their Wesleyan roots, which is very Biblical as Wesley preached and tuaght it. The Nazarene's never departed from things like progressive sanctification, the gifts and 5 fold ministry gifts.
When you swipe with that foolish, broad brush you are slinging, you anger people and even me, because you are suggesting I am something I am not and imply I condone behavior and false teachings I detest.
I don't recall your asking that at the start, but OK.
I would say peer pressure to a certain degree. That's what it was in my old church (OC), anyway. "New Wave" Charismatics don't go that far back, early 60's, and my OC caught "the Wave" in '85. Some of it stuck.
Our founding pastor didn't push it as much as the associate pastors did, and it's pretty much a small group which one has to be invited to join. I was invited (and here it was more of a shove than a push as they said I was 'ready' for it) at one point, but I attended one class and said no thank you.
I left the church a year later when I moved for a job, but when I eventually moved back I found a different church partly because of what they were teaching. They called it simply Advanced Spiritual Gifts classes. I think the content would be another thread.
Another reason I guess is gullibility. Not all of it is real. What my dad used to call Holy Rollers. Traveling revivals, some of the tv ministries. Like used car salesman sometimes. Snake oil salesman. Just because someone is born again doesn't mean they have the wisdom to not get taken in by smoke and mirrors.
I would say peer pressure to a certain degree. That's what it was in my old church (OC), anyway. "New Wave" Charismatics don't go that far back, early 60's, and my OC caught "the Wave" in '85. Some of it stuck.
Our founding pastor didn't push it as much as the associate pastors did, and it's pretty much a small group which one has to be invited to join. I was invited (and here it was more of a shove than a push as they said I was 'ready' for it) at one point, but I attended one class and said no thank you.
I left the church a year later when I moved for a job, but when I eventually moved back I found a different church partly because of what they were teaching. They called it simply Advanced Spiritual Gifts classes. I think the content would be another thread.
Another reason I guess is gullibility. Not all of it is real. What my dad used to call Holy Rollers. Traveling revivals, some of the tv ministries. Like used car salesman sometimes. Snake oil salesman. Just because someone is born again doesn't mean they have the wisdom to not get taken in by smoke and mirrors.
