the Error in the "Error" of saying there is an Error in Gods word
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Which is the error? The actual writing in this version or the footnote?
2 Samuel 21:19 NASB, ESV
19 There was war with the Philistines again at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.
Footnote: Lahmi, the brother of Goliath
Who killed Goliath? Or was it the brother of Goliath?
2 Samuel 21:19 NASB, ESV
19 There was war with the Philistines again at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.
Footnote: Lahmi, the brother of Goliath
Who killed Goliath? Or was it the brother of Goliath?
Footnotes are many times simple honesty on the part of the translating team of scholars. A footnote such as:
" [The Hebrew is plural] "
From Psalms- "[Selah may be a musical term] "
" [a] Exodus 2:10 Moses sounds like the Hebrew for draw out. "
FOOTNOTES are at the BOTTOM of the page. There is nothing sinister about them. They are not inserted into the main body of the text in order to change it. They simply give the reader (who is likely to know only English) more insight into what the translators can see in the manuscripts they work from. These people have been a blessing to us, not a curse.
I don't mean you Ariel, but there are a few people that post here who take this suspicion of modern translations to an extreme. I see the slandering of Bible scholars as an infraction of Christian ethics. I feel more gracious in my spirit toward men of God who have undertaken this work. For MY benefit. I don't feel that great numbers of them have set out to deceive us.
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Many today do not adopt a Biblical respect for pastors, teachers who are decreed by God for our benefit, Ephesians 4:11. There is much Scripture supporting these. However, too many take 1 John 2:27 out of context and pit it against other Scriptures as a spurious defense of why they "don't follow man" or "listen to man" or "need man" &c.
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Truthfully Lucy, I will have to do some more research on the differences between Alexandrian manuscripts and Byzantine ones. Maybe Angela can recommend some books.
I did find this article..not sure if I agree or disagree yet.
https://bible.org/article/majority-text-and-original-text-are-they-identical
I did find this article..not sure if I agree or disagree yet.
https://bible.org/article/majority-text-and-original-text-are-they-identical
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I looked up the verse and found this...
1 John 5:7 ►
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
For there are three that testify:
New Living Translation
So we have these three witnesses--
English Standard Version
For there are three that testify:
Berean Study Bible
For there are three that testify:
Berean Literal Bible
For there are three bearing testimony:
New American Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:
King James Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one
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Commentary/ footnote...whatever folks want to call them:
Pulpit Commentary
Verse 7. - For those who bear witness are three, and thus constitute full legal testimony (Deuteronomy 17:6; Deuteronomy 19:15; Matthew 18:16; 2 Corinthians 13:1). It will be assumed here, without discussion, that the remainder of this verse and the first clause of verse 8 are spurious. Words which are not contained in a single Greek uncial manuscript, nor in a single Greek cursive earlier than the fourteenth century (the two which contain the passage being evidently translated from the Vulgate), nor are quoted by a single Greek Father during the whole of the Trinitarian controversy, nor are found in any authority until late in the fifth century, cannot be genuine.
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven,.... That is, that Jesus is the Son of God. The genuineness of this text has been called in question by some, because it is wanting in the Syriac version, as it also is in the Arabic and Ethiopic versions; and because the old Latin interpreter has it not; and it is not to be found in many Greek manuscripts; nor cited by many of the ancient fathers, even by such who wrote against the Arians, when it might have been of great service to them: to all which it may be replied, that as to the Syriac version, which is the most ancient, and of the greatest consequence, it is but a version, and a defective one.
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So folks are questioning the Trinity?
The world gets stranger and stranger each day.
1 John 5:7 ►
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
For there are three that testify:
New Living Translation
So we have these three witnesses--
English Standard Version
For there are three that testify:
Berean Study Bible
For there are three that testify:
Berean Literal Bible
For there are three bearing testimony:
New American Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:
King James Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one
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Commentary/ footnote...whatever folks want to call them:
Pulpit Commentary
Verse 7. - For those who bear witness are three, and thus constitute full legal testimony (Deuteronomy 17:6; Deuteronomy 19:15; Matthew 18:16; 2 Corinthians 13:1). It will be assumed here, without discussion, that the remainder of this verse and the first clause of verse 8 are spurious. Words which are not contained in a single Greek uncial manuscript, nor in a single Greek cursive earlier than the fourteenth century (the two which contain the passage being evidently translated from the Vulgate), nor are quoted by a single Greek Father during the whole of the Trinitarian controversy, nor are found in any authority until late in the fifth century, cannot be genuine.
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven,.... That is, that Jesus is the Son of God. The genuineness of this text has been called in question by some, because it is wanting in the Syriac version, as it also is in the Arabic and Ethiopic versions; and because the old Latin interpreter has it not; and it is not to be found in many Greek manuscripts; nor cited by many of the ancient fathers, even by such who wrote against the Arians, when it might have been of great service to them: to all which it may be replied, that as to the Syriac version, which is the most ancient, and of the greatest consequence, it is but a version, and a defective one.
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So folks are questioning the Trinity?
The world gets stranger and stranger each day.
What I notice is that claiming errors in the Authorized Bible is a strategy used by defenders of corrupt modern bibles.
The corruption lovers seek to claim that all bibles are error ridden so that ignorant people might assume nothing is seriously corrupt and devilish about modern bibles.
But it doesn’t take much inspection of modern bibles to determine how wicked they are.
So, readers are asked by corruption lovers to think its godly to speak well of the corrupt bibles and the scholars who invented the lies and corruption in the corrupt bible.
If a man speak of error as if the least mistake is important but then says nothing about the corruption in modern bibles, they are deceivers that love the falsehoods taught in modern perverse bibles.
And so they claim it’s divisive to point out the damnable lies in the modern bibles.
And if you force them to see and take note of the corruption, then the corrupt bible lovers suddenly feign being too dumbfounded and stupid to understand plain English, while having claimed to be some supposed wit.
But, does it matter that the devil has entered churches with corrupt bibles and sent his pastors and teachers also to praise the modern bibles?
No, it doesn’t.
It doesn’t matter what subversive lies these corruption lovers tell about the written word of God, because all you have to do is compare the evil to the good and turn away from corrupt bibles to God’s holy written word. That’s everyman’s responsibility.
At the end of the day, so to speak, the truth is seen by all who love truth and hate lies.
The corruption lovers seek to claim that all bibles are error ridden so that ignorant people might assume nothing is seriously corrupt and devilish about modern bibles.
But it doesn’t take much inspection of modern bibles to determine how wicked they are.
So, readers are asked by corruption lovers to think its godly to speak well of the corrupt bibles and the scholars who invented the lies and corruption in the corrupt bible.
If a man speak of error as if the least mistake is important but then says nothing about the corruption in modern bibles, they are deceivers that love the falsehoods taught in modern perverse bibles.
And so they claim it’s divisive to point out the damnable lies in the modern bibles.
And if you force them to see and take note of the corruption, then the corrupt bible lovers suddenly feign being too dumbfounded and stupid to understand plain English, while having claimed to be some supposed wit.
But, does it matter that the devil has entered churches with corrupt bibles and sent his pastors and teachers also to praise the modern bibles?
No, it doesn’t.
It doesn’t matter what subversive lies these corruption lovers tell about the written word of God, because all you have to do is compare the evil to the good and turn away from corrupt bibles to God’s holy written word. That’s everyman’s responsibility.
At the end of the day, so to speak, the truth is seen by all who love truth and hate lies.
What shall we do with those who profess to be from God but do not teach sound doctrine?
The church does have a problem in this area. Good men are driven from the ministry by their own people because the people do not want sound doctrine but teachers that tickle the ears.
Judgment begins at the house of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The church does have a problem in this area. Good men are driven from the ministry by their own people because the people do not want sound doctrine but teachers that tickle the ears.
Judgment begins at the house of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
It’s been 4oo years since the Holy Bible was published in English, so there are no excuses for not knowing what God hath said and done.
Now, after 4oo years the churches want to follow modern bibles and forsake the Authorized Holy Bible? So be it, Let God’s judgment begin with the church, since that is apparently the only thing to do to turn men’s hearts back to God and his holy words of truth.
As the great and global tribulation approaches the holy writ is needed more than ever before lest the saints perish for lack of knowledge. Not only are corruption lovers wrong about their petty criticisms of the Authorized, as they swallow whole camels worth of corrupt bibles, but they are completely unaware of how precise the Authorized Bible text is.
You want easy, please me, bibles? Go buy a lollipop version and buy all manner of helps, and see where you end up.
You want truth, well you can obtain that probably for free if you’re serious about God’s truth and the study of it. God paid for it, not man.
I myself use no helps. I found through experience that helps invented by man lead away from truth by teaching readers to not lean on the Holy Ghost as they’re supposed to do. In all my years allowing the Holy Ghost to teach me I have never found error nor any corruption in scripture of the Authorized. I have yet to find any man able to correct the Authorized in any way.
The next time you hear a pastor say he’s found a better word that is in the Authorized, don’t swallow that lie, stop and take a good look and let the Holy Ghost help you. Then you’ll find out what you didn’t know about the truth.
Now, after 4oo years the churches want to follow modern bibles and forsake the Authorized Holy Bible? So be it, Let God’s judgment begin with the church, since that is apparently the only thing to do to turn men’s hearts back to God and his holy words of truth.
As the great and global tribulation approaches the holy writ is needed more than ever before lest the saints perish for lack of knowledge. Not only are corruption lovers wrong about their petty criticisms of the Authorized, as they swallow whole camels worth of corrupt bibles, but they are completely unaware of how precise the Authorized Bible text is.
You want easy, please me, bibles? Go buy a lollipop version and buy all manner of helps, and see where you end up.
You want truth, well you can obtain that probably for free if you’re serious about God’s truth and the study of it. God paid for it, not man.
I myself use no helps. I found through experience that helps invented by man lead away from truth by teaching readers to not lean on the Holy Ghost as they’re supposed to do. In all my years allowing the Holy Ghost to teach me I have never found error nor any corruption in scripture of the Authorized. I have yet to find any man able to correct the Authorized in any way.
The next time you hear a pastor say he’s found a better word that is in the Authorized, don’t swallow that lie, stop and take a good look and let the Holy Ghost help you. Then you’ll find out what you didn’t know about the truth.
