Ok lets look at Matthew 24:3 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-3.htm
When they ask him about "and the sign of your coming" tell me what you think they were asking him.
Making Sense of Matthew 24
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Ok lets look at Matthew 24:3 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-3.htm
When they ask him about "and the sign of your coming" tell me what you think they were asking him.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/19-28.htm In Matthew 19:28 where do you see "the age to come has arrived"?
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all prophesy has 1. a forth telling and 2. a fore telling
a present time application and future time application.
Matthew 24 Jesus is answering three questions:
Matthew 24:3
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying,
1. “Tell us, when will these things be?
2.And what will be the sign of Your coming,
3. and of the end of the age?”
with Daniel , and rev and Matthew 24& 25 we can get some good understanding
a present time application and future time application.
Matthew 24 Jesus is answering three questions:
Matthew 24:3
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying,
1. “Tell us, when will these things be?
2.And what will be the sign of Your coming,
3. and of the end of the age?”
with Daniel , and rev and Matthew 24& 25 we can get some good understanding
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Incorrect, the age ended with the destruction of Jerusalem and the termination of the old covenant which was waxing old when Hebrews was written:
(1 Cor 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.)
(Heb 9:26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.)
Your thinking contradicts the scripture.
(1 Cor 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.)
(Heb 9:26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.)
Your thinking contradicts the scripture.
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Bare in mind that those disciples in Matthew 24:3 did not understand that Jesus would die and be resurrected from the dead until afterwards. That is they were not asking him about the sign of his second coming because they did not understand it at that time.
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This is INCORRECT. Matthew 24 gives a logical and chronological series of events from the destruction of the temple in 70 AD to the Second Coming of Christ IN THE FUTURE.
PAST
1. The destruction of the temple at Jerusalem, Jerusalem, and Judah
PAST AND ONGOING
2. False Christs (and false prophets)
3. Wars and rumors of wars
4. Famines, pestilences and earthquakes
5. Persecution of the apostles and Christians. Christian martyrs.
6. The preaching of the Gospel worldwide before the end.
FUTURE
7. The Antichrist and the Abomination of Desolation
8. The Great Tribulation
9. Cataclysmic cosmic events
10. The Second Coming of Christ
11. The ingathering of the believing Jewish remnant.
12. Predictions of the Rapture
PAST
1. The destruction of the temple at Jerusalem, Jerusalem, and Judah
PAST AND ONGOING
2. False Christs (and false prophets)
3. Wars and rumors of wars
4. Famines, pestilences and earthquakes
5. Persecution of the apostles and Christians. Christian martyrs.
6. The preaching of the Gospel worldwide before the end.
FUTURE
7. The Antichrist and the Abomination of Desolation
8. The Great Tribulation
9. Cataclysmic cosmic events
10. The Second Coming of Christ
11. The ingathering of the believing Jewish remnant.
12. Predictions of the Rapture
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Mat 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
I believe this is the only time that Jesus mentions anything in the first century which is when the Roman Empire overthrows Jerusalem.
Although the Roman Empire was persecuting Christians is this overthrow because Rome was going against Christianity, or because the Jews revolted against Rome, which it was a revolt of Jews who rejected Christ, and went against Rome.
The disciples said look at these lovely buildings of the temple, and Jesus said they will be thrown down, so do not admire them for I am the temple, and that was it for the first century.
That is concerning the overthrow of Jerusalem, but did Jesus warn of persecuting of Christians in the first century, which He did warn them of persecution, but not mentioned here for the first century, but Jesus told them they would be persecuted but that would be all through Church history.
I believe in these scriptures Jesus does not address anything in the first century but verse 2, and then it moves to the end time, and it is speaking to the Jews in general at that time.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
The disciples were asking the sign of Jesus' coming, and the end of the world, so it has to do with being past the first century, and Jesus did not come back in the first century and fight the world.
God said He is going to gather all nations together against Jerusalem, and the whole earth shall be gathered together against Jerusalem, and then God would fight against them, but even in the then known world it was not all nations, for only the Roman Empire went against them.
Why would Jesus be fighting back then for what did it change for the Roman Empire still kept going on, and Christianity was still persecuted, and even more so.
When Jesus fights the world He puts down the world and sin, and no more persecution against the saints.
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
How can there be so much deception back then in the first century when Christianity was young, but today there can be much deception, and many people have claimed to be Christ, and the New Age Christ in the future who will say the Christ conscience came upon him, and he is the world teacher, and above Jesus.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Daniel said he did not understand what was told him, but was told that they would understand in the end time, for many shall run to and fro, advanced travel, and knowledge shall be increased, advanced technology, which then the saints can see, hear, and know what is going on in the earth, and how it is possible for them to come together.
Which we know of wars that have happened like WW1, and WW2, and we know of pestilences, and natural disasters, and earthquakes, and all the problems that are going on in the earth.
Jesus said they would know of these things that are occurring on different places on earth.
But how can the disciples know that for they would be in the same position as Daniel, and they would not know what is going on in different places on earth.
If it was 2000 years ago what do you think you would know of what is going on in the earth, about as much as what you would know is when you go outside and look around, and a few things around you.
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
How can the saints be hated of all nations in the first century, and even in the then known world they did not all persecute Christians in the first century, for how far could Christianity spread at that time.
Africa is known in the Bible, and the Middle East, and the Roman Empire, and others, and they were not all persecuting Christians.
Jesus said they would be hated of all nations, and even the nations of the then know world which is anything told in the Bible would not even know of Christianity.
And this hating of them means that all people are against them, but not all people even knew of Christianity back then.
But today the whole world can know of Christianity, and do know of Christianity.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
It would not seem like there would be so much deception back then.
And how can iniquity abound so much back then.
But today it can because of technology because it caused money, and material things to flow like a raging river, and worldliness, and fleshy pleasures a plenty as they pursued those things with their money, and it kicked up the selfishness, and arrogance of people to a level never before seen in the history of mankind.
Which because of their high selfishness, and arrogance, and enjoying money, and the pleasures that it brought, the love of many waxed cold, for they say you do not care about me, I do not care about you, and it got worse.
Which God told us of the last generation that they would devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy among men, which can only happen with advanced technology like now, for there is money flowing like Niagara Falls, and they can reach out farther, and reach out to more people to make money, and we see millions of dollars and billions of dollars is not enough for them.
And he that shall endure to the end shall be saved, but it was not the end back then.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
And how can the Gospel be preached to all nations back then which all people would not know of the Gospel in the first century.
But today all nations know of the Gospel, like they know of Buddhism, and Hinduism, and Islam.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And that little bit of persecution in the first century could of not been the greatest persecution ever in the history of mankind, especially what is coming up.
It is the greatest persecution for this will be on a world wide scale when the New Age Christ makes war against the saints, which he will cause the abomination of desolation.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Also immediately after the tribulation shall the resurrection happen, so if the tribulation was in the first century, and the resurrection has not happened yet for there are saints on earth, that does not seem like immediately.
I believe Jesus only mentions the first century when He mentioned the collapse of the temples, and that there is no reason for Him to come back then, and the rest is what is going on now.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
I believe this is the only time that Jesus mentions anything in the first century which is when the Roman Empire overthrows Jerusalem.
Although the Roman Empire was persecuting Christians is this overthrow because Rome was going against Christianity, or because the Jews revolted against Rome, which it was a revolt of Jews who rejected Christ, and went against Rome.
The disciples said look at these lovely buildings of the temple, and Jesus said they will be thrown down, so do not admire them for I am the temple, and that was it for the first century.
That is concerning the overthrow of Jerusalem, but did Jesus warn of persecuting of Christians in the first century, which He did warn them of persecution, but not mentioned here for the first century, but Jesus told them they would be persecuted but that would be all through Church history.
I believe in these scriptures Jesus does not address anything in the first century but verse 2, and then it moves to the end time, and it is speaking to the Jews in general at that time.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
The disciples were asking the sign of Jesus' coming, and the end of the world, so it has to do with being past the first century, and Jesus did not come back in the first century and fight the world.
God said He is going to gather all nations together against Jerusalem, and the whole earth shall be gathered together against Jerusalem, and then God would fight against them, but even in the then known world it was not all nations, for only the Roman Empire went against them.
Why would Jesus be fighting back then for what did it change for the Roman Empire still kept going on, and Christianity was still persecuted, and even more so.
When Jesus fights the world He puts down the world and sin, and no more persecution against the saints.
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
How can there be so much deception back then in the first century when Christianity was young, but today there can be much deception, and many people have claimed to be Christ, and the New Age Christ in the future who will say the Christ conscience came upon him, and he is the world teacher, and above Jesus.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Daniel said he did not understand what was told him, but was told that they would understand in the end time, for many shall run to and fro, advanced travel, and knowledge shall be increased, advanced technology, which then the saints can see, hear, and know what is going on in the earth, and how it is possible for them to come together.
Which we know of wars that have happened like WW1, and WW2, and we know of pestilences, and natural disasters, and earthquakes, and all the problems that are going on in the earth.
Jesus said they would know of these things that are occurring on different places on earth.
But how can the disciples know that for they would be in the same position as Daniel, and they would not know what is going on in different places on earth.
If it was 2000 years ago what do you think you would know of what is going on in the earth, about as much as what you would know is when you go outside and look around, and a few things around you.
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
How can the saints be hated of all nations in the first century, and even in the then known world they did not all persecute Christians in the first century, for how far could Christianity spread at that time.
Africa is known in the Bible, and the Middle East, and the Roman Empire, and others, and they were not all persecuting Christians.
Jesus said they would be hated of all nations, and even the nations of the then know world which is anything told in the Bible would not even know of Christianity.
And this hating of them means that all people are against them, but not all people even knew of Christianity back then.
But today the whole world can know of Christianity, and do know of Christianity.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
It would not seem like there would be so much deception back then.
And how can iniquity abound so much back then.
But today it can because of technology because it caused money, and material things to flow like a raging river, and worldliness, and fleshy pleasures a plenty as they pursued those things with their money, and it kicked up the selfishness, and arrogance of people to a level never before seen in the history of mankind.
Which because of their high selfishness, and arrogance, and enjoying money, and the pleasures that it brought, the love of many waxed cold, for they say you do not care about me, I do not care about you, and it got worse.
Which God told us of the last generation that they would devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy among men, which can only happen with advanced technology like now, for there is money flowing like Niagara Falls, and they can reach out farther, and reach out to more people to make money, and we see millions of dollars and billions of dollars is not enough for them.
And he that shall endure to the end shall be saved, but it was not the end back then.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
And how can the Gospel be preached to all nations back then which all people would not know of the Gospel in the first century.
But today all nations know of the Gospel, like they know of Buddhism, and Hinduism, and Islam.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And that little bit of persecution in the first century could of not been the greatest persecution ever in the history of mankind, especially what is coming up.
It is the greatest persecution for this will be on a world wide scale when the New Age Christ makes war against the saints, which he will cause the abomination of desolation.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Also immediately after the tribulation shall the resurrection happen, so if the tribulation was in the first century, and the resurrection has not happened yet for there are saints on earth, that does not seem like immediately.
I believe Jesus only mentions the first century when He mentioned the collapse of the temples, and that there is no reason for Him to come back then, and the rest is what is going on now.
Did Jesus reveal the things contained in the 7 sealed scroll in Matthew 24,Mark 13 or Luke in the OD before he was slain?https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+5&version=KJV
Yes He did. The events of the seven seals are all there in the Olivet Discourse.
1ST SEAL -- WHITE HORSE -- FALSE CHRISTS
2ND SEAL -- RED HORSE -- WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS
3RD SEAL -- BLACK HORSE -- FAMINES
4TH SEAL -- PALE HORSE -- DEATH AND HADES APPLICABLE TO ALL OF THE ABOVE
5TH SEAL -- CHRISTIAN MARTYRS
6TH SEAL -- Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (v 29)
7TH SEAL -- For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. (v 21) Note: Revelation 7:14 calls it "The Tribulation, The Great" or "The Great Tribulation".
1ST SEAL -- WHITE HORSE -- FALSE CHRISTS
2ND SEAL -- RED HORSE -- WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS
3RD SEAL -- BLACK HORSE -- FAMINES
4TH SEAL -- PALE HORSE -- DEATH AND HADES APPLICABLE TO ALL OF THE ABOVE
5TH SEAL -- CHRISTIAN MARTYRS
6TH SEAL -- Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (v 29)
7TH SEAL -- For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. (v 21) Note: Revelation 7:14 calls it "The Tribulation, The Great" or "The Great Tribulation".
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Even in the third chapter can a person explain how the same temptation shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
But it can happen when the nations come together and say Peace and safety as they work for peace on earth, and Paul said that the saints will not be deceived by that, and Jesus said He will deliver the saints from that temptation.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
This could not have happened.
Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Rev 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
Rev 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
This did not happen where a third of the people of the world died, and it would not of happened in the past anyway, for nothing is going to seriously happen like this until the nations come together and say Peace and safety, for that is when they start departing from God, and hindering the Gospel of Christ, and end up rebelling against God so the world then will have trouble, which after they say Peace and safety then sudden destruction comes upon them.
The world does not warrant that kind of punishment yet for the Gospel is still being allowed to be preached in the world without a governing body for the world, and the nations leaders stopping the Gospel.
Rev 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
This could of not happened for time still goes on, and the mystery of God should be finished is when all people know of God that He is the Lord Jesus Christ, for the book of Revelation is a revealing of Jesus to the world, and everyone will know the true God then.
Time only applies to this creation for it is a measuring tool of events, and there is no time before this creation, or after it, for time is not a universal principle as some would think, that is why time will be no more.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
This could not of happened for when this happens Israel will be in the truth that Jesus is their Messiah, which they are blinded in part now.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
This could of not happened for at this time Jesus puts the world down, but the nations still operate now.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
This has not happened yet for the beast has power over all nations, kindreds, and tongues, that is the whole world, and that kingdom devours the whole earth, and shall tread upon it, and break it in pieces, which the Roman Empire did not do that in the first century, nor after that.
Continued,
Even in the third chapter can a person explain how the same temptation shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
But it can happen when the nations come together and say Peace and safety as they work for peace on earth, and Paul said that the saints will not be deceived by that, and Jesus said He will deliver the saints from that temptation.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
This could not have happened.
Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Rev 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
Rev 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
This did not happen where a third of the people of the world died, and it would not of happened in the past anyway, for nothing is going to seriously happen like this until the nations come together and say Peace and safety, for that is when they start departing from God, and hindering the Gospel of Christ, and end up rebelling against God so the world then will have trouble, which after they say Peace and safety then sudden destruction comes upon them.
The world does not warrant that kind of punishment yet for the Gospel is still being allowed to be preached in the world without a governing body for the world, and the nations leaders stopping the Gospel.
Rev 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
This could of not happened for time still goes on, and the mystery of God should be finished is when all people know of God that He is the Lord Jesus Christ, for the book of Revelation is a revealing of Jesus to the world, and everyone will know the true God then.
Time only applies to this creation for it is a measuring tool of events, and there is no time before this creation, or after it, for time is not a universal principle as some would think, that is why time will be no more.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
This could not of happened for when this happens Israel will be in the truth that Jesus is their Messiah, which they are blinded in part now.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
This could of not happened for at this time Jesus puts the world down, but the nations still operate now.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
This has not happened yet for the beast has power over all nations, kindreds, and tongues, that is the whole world, and that kingdom devours the whole earth, and shall tread upon it, and break it in pieces, which the Roman Empire did not do that in the first century, nor after that.
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Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
This has not happened for a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne said it is done, which means it is over and that is it for the people ruling on earth, which is why the cities of the nations fell.
Babylon will never have physical dominion again, but her ways are still on earth so she has not fallen yet, so this is Babylon in spirit which represents the kingdom of man, and the beast kingdom brought the spirit of Babylon back which is rebellion against God.
Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
This has not happened yet for the whore represents all the false religions, and they shall hate the whore and get rid of her which they get rid of all the religions, for at the beast kingdom evolution is their religion, and they are still evolving, and there is no personal God, which the beast shall convince the world he evolved to be greater and spiritual.
But false religions are still going on.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
This has not happened yet for Satan is the prince of the power of the air right now, but this is when the devils are cast to earth and they deceive all people who do not love God to follow the beast which is the strong delusion God shall send everyone that does not love the truth, but nobody is in strong delusion right now for it is a delusion they cannot snap out of but people are still accepting the Lord.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Which this has not happened yet for this is the battle of Armageddon when Jesus fights the whole earth and defeats them, and then Jesus takes over the earth.
So Revelation 20 could of not happened either for it comes after Jesus defeats the earth.
The Roman Empire in the first century could of not had control over all nations, kindreds, and tongues, neither could they devour the whole earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces, and God said He is going to gather all nations together against Jerusalem, but it was only the Roman Empire that went against Jerusalem.
The Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts them down, which at that time it will be more than Italy, but Europe, America, and Russia too, and all nations will come together, but the plan is of the Roman Empire that includes more than Italy.
Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
This has not happened for a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne said it is done, which means it is over and that is it for the people ruling on earth, which is why the cities of the nations fell.
Babylon will never have physical dominion again, but her ways are still on earth so she has not fallen yet, so this is Babylon in spirit which represents the kingdom of man, and the beast kingdom brought the spirit of Babylon back which is rebellion against God.
Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
This has not happened yet for the whore represents all the false religions, and they shall hate the whore and get rid of her which they get rid of all the religions, for at the beast kingdom evolution is their religion, and they are still evolving, and there is no personal God, which the beast shall convince the world he evolved to be greater and spiritual.
But false religions are still going on.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
This has not happened yet for Satan is the prince of the power of the air right now, but this is when the devils are cast to earth and they deceive all people who do not love God to follow the beast which is the strong delusion God shall send everyone that does not love the truth, but nobody is in strong delusion right now for it is a delusion they cannot snap out of but people are still accepting the Lord.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Which this has not happened yet for this is the battle of Armageddon when Jesus fights the whole earth and defeats them, and then Jesus takes over the earth.
So Revelation 20 could of not happened either for it comes after Jesus defeats the earth.
The Roman Empire in the first century could of not had control over all nations, kindreds, and tongues, neither could they devour the whole earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces, and God said He is going to gather all nations together against Jerusalem, but it was only the Roman Empire that went against Jerusalem.
The Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts them down, which at that time it will be more than Italy, but Europe, America, and Russia too, and all nations will come together, but the plan is of the Roman Empire that includes more than Italy.
In John 20:25 Thomas said he would not believe it was Jesus unless,,, https://biblehub.com/john/20-25.htm .
Mary thought someone moved Jesus body in John 20:15 https://biblehub.com/john/20-15.htm .
In Luke 24:21 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24:21&version=KJV the said they had trusted that it had been he but that it was the 3rd day since it had been done(Jesus death)...
In all of the Gospels when Jesus told them about his DBR they did not understand. After Jesus was crucified the disciples all reacted as if he was dead and as if they did not understand he was going to rise from the grave three days later.
In the Olivet Discourse Jesus answered the the question they ask about when the stones would not be one on the other,the end of the age they were in(4 beast of Daniel over them) and since they did not see that he was to die,be raised ect. and they only saw that he was to rule from the city and Temple he just said would be destroyed they could not see him as the Messiah without that sign(him ruling from that Temple). This was the only coming they knew of at the time of Matthew 24:3.
In Acts 1 they stood gazing when he ascended and the angel explained that he would return in the same manner but they did not understand that he would until then. They did not understand until Acts 2 when the Comforter came as Jesus told them.
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So sad to see that the elite have been able to brainwash the unbelievers using Hollywood to program them in the belief that the end of the world is near and the same time also brainwashed Christians via the Freemason sponsored Scofield Bible into Dispensationalism/Zionism, which as usual also full of Specutology (while the Jews believed they were living in the last days or end times of the Old Covenant as they had been waiting since Daniel 9 for Prince Messiah to come). The white genocide and melting pot of all nations is being worked out in detail (Israeli Militiary specialist from Wikistrat PM Barnett in his 2004 book The Pentagons New Map said that "The ultimate goal is the co-ordination of all countries in the world, ... by the mixing of races, with the aim of a light brown race in Europe, to be taken from the Third World in Europe annually 1.5 million immigrants. The result is a population with an average IQ of 90, too stupid to comprehend, but smart enough to work '). My first response was that of disbelief too. Well, what do we see in Europe? It's been happening while Christians are still asleep and believe this all needs to happen. Rabbi's say they use Islam like a broom to get rid of us Edomites (watch Europhobia from Know More News on bitchute) and bring in the Noahide laws. Because of these rapturists we have lost powerful positions in society and our democracy since Hall Lindseys book and as Kirk Cameron from the Left Behind series said in "Momumental", working on a self fulfilling prophecy. Many were told not get a carreer or go to university but instead just wait for His return :-(
