the difference is needing to be commanded under punishment of death to honor ones parents , versus being born again and having that respect and honor being imprinted upon our heart so that we don’t need to be commanded under death to do so
“honor your parents , if not you will be put to death by the people “ is the law of commandment
be born again in the spirit , and you will live and become a child of God who naturally honors parents and more than that one another , not neeeing a commandment to do so but simply living the new life God creates in us through the gospel
look at something as simple as the sabbath
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
Commandment
“Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.”
Exodus 35:2
the law of sin and death
“And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.”
Numbers 15:32, 35-36
But the New Testament is contrary to that law
“Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”
Colossians 2:16-17
Observance of the law was a shadow of the real things in Christ . Being born again is what saves us . Being born of the gospel and the truth therin leaves a person not having motivation , reason or inclination to do things like dishonor parents , worship false gods , kill . Lie , cheat
you can’t be born of the gospel and walk on those ways but you can observe Ten Commandments and be utterly wicked at the same time
we have to change at the source of our sin problem the commandments can’t do that but the gospel can
I still maintain my position that the 10 commandments are much relevant and still apply to us Christians. As I have said severally, it is the method of fulfilling them that have changed. --- It seems you are saying same thing in a way, if I understand you well.
What I see more in your post is a mixture of the 10 commandments handed to Moses at Mt Sinai and the statutes /ordinances. The op in one of her posts mentioned that the two are different which I agree with to a large extent. We must be able to differentiate the two.
There are the 10 commandments Moses went up the Mountain to receive from God and there are other statutes and ordinances which specify how the law should be fulfilled as well as the consequences of not fulfilling them. In other words, there is the main law and there are what we can call the appendices which show what and what one has to do to show fulfilment of the main law. These are the works of the law mentioned in Galatians 2:16
If we read and understand Paul's letters to the Gentiles, we will notice that his references as regards the issue under discussion were on the law of commandments contained in the ordinances . ( which shall be their righteousness if they observe to do all that were written therein.)
I quote (old kjv) --just few instances
1. Ephesians 2:14 - 16
"For he is our peace , who has made both one and has broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
having abolished in his flesh the enmity even, the law of commandments contained in ordinances for to make in himself of two, one new man. so making peace. And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby."
2. Colossians 2:13 - 17; 2:20-22
"And, you being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, has he quickened together with him having forgiving you all trespasses; b
lotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us which was contrary to us and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat or in drink or in respect of a holyday or of the new moon or of the sabbath days, which are a shadow of things to come but the body is of Christ.
Wherefore, if you be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world,
why as though living in the world are you subject to the ordinances ( Touch not, handle not, which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men.
So when he says
, Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: he was referring to the works of the law contained in the ordinances.
Another area of consideration is the standard of their (Jewish) understanding of the law versus the higher understanding of the law Jesus taught. When speaking of the law, we must go beyond their narrow mindset
As Jesus said regarding the sabbath, the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath, so, the Son of man is lord even of the sabbath.
As a Christian, am I bound to worship on the Sabbath day? my answer is Nope. Reason, I believe, the "order" of worship has changed. However, it is no sin for anybody to have Saturday as his/her special day of worship. I believe that even if we serve and worship God everyday, we must not neglect the assembling of ourselves together as Paul said even in this period of Covid 19. The spiritual benefits outweigh the cons.
Just reposted because my previous post on #575 did not align well.
