"If You Want to Have Sex, Get Married." Ok. But What If You Want to Have Sex, and You're ALREADY Married?

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Gojira

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There you go, use a little finesse. It goes a long way. :)
But I think the issue some are raising here is that even if one partner tries to get the other in the mood, they don't want to be bothered. I say then, why get married? Find yourself a good roommate.

The thing that makes marriage different from other relationships is the nature of the love, and the sexual expression of that. There is no other relationship, properly lived, that includes that. So, when you take it away -- unless both parties are fine with it -- you're left with something that is less than a marriage... IMO.
 

Gojira

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Yes, but abortion is still legal in all states, although some states it is severely restricted. What really got overturned was having abortion in general, as a right, by the US Constitution.

It is now up to each state to decide to have abortion legal or illegal, and also any such restrictions it may impose. This is the way that the US Constitution was designed, leaving it up to the states, except in a few instances as stated in the Constitution as to what a state allows or doesn't allow as long as such laws that are passed are not prohibited by the Constitution.

Today is absolutely a step in the right direction. Should not nave took 49 1/2 years to repeal though. There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that states that abortion is a fundamental right.

This has been a long time coming.
Leftists will twist their thinking into believing anything about the constitution that fits their desired ends (the first amendment forbids any religious expression in public life; the second amendment only refers to a militia; the 3/5 clause was to demean blacks (not to pave the way for the end of slavery); etc., etc. Not unlike how the world approaches Christianity and God.
 

Gojira

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Leftists will twist their thinking into believing anything about the constitution that fits their desired ends (the first amendment forbids any religious expression in public life; the second amendment only refers to a militia; the 3/5 clause was to demean blacks (not to pave the way for the end of slavery); etc., etc. Not unlike how the world approaches Christianity and God.
But then again, the US's culture war is, IMO, the tip of the iceberg of a raging spiritual war being waged beneath the surface.
 

Lanolin

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I obeserve boys and girls in the library

I have puppets and I have emoji cushions and pet cushions

I teach them they cushions are for cuddling not throwing
and the puppets just go back in the box after being played with NOT flung on the floor where they can get stomped on

the kids that think its fun to bash the cushions I tell them NO

Ive had to repair a dogs ear when its been picked up BY THE EAR

And also if the emoji pets have been poked at and all their stuffing is coming out.
also nobody dares sit on the emojis faces.

You can tell a child the way they will treat others bodies by the way they hold these toys.
 
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joecoten

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Perhaps you need a hobby...
 

Lanolin

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are you talking to yourself Joe

cos your posts just get weirder and weirder, do you have like a real job?

Seouls just needs to advise her married couples, whoever is doing the complaining that they just need to talk to each other about what they really want in their beds.

I dont think its fair on her to have to deal with married couples sex problems. she can pray for them but otherwise its shouldnt be on her.

if there is abuse though, that person needs a refuge
if I were to say anything to men who bash up women whether married or not...dont treat your partner like a punching bag. touching in that way is not love.
 
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joecoten

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You don't make very much sense to me, Lanolin. I think we're just wired differently. You have a nice night.
 

Sculpt

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I would tell them, "Let's say that your spouse is going to be unable, unwilling, and unavailable to have sex with you for the next 20 years. They are not going to show any interest in you, will not respond to your desires, and there will be no other outlet in any other form available to you. What are you going to do?"
If there was an abundance of affection, intimacy and loyal friendship with my wife that I found physically attractive, but so sex for some medical reason? I would probably be happy with that. I wonder if that's more rare anyway? I mean sex without that in a married partner? That would be hell, wouldn't it?
 

Live4Him3

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You seem to be thinking that you've somehow run me off by simply having a different point of view. If so, then I can assure you that that's not the case.

My "normal" (not that I claim to be normal) posting style is to say what I think needs to be said, and then to just move on. I'm definitely not the browbeat into agreement/submission type, but instead the plant and water type...fully recognizing that God alone can give the increase.

In this particular case, I don't even know that there was any type of increase that I was seeking. Instead, I merely jumped in, honestly shared some of my own life's experiences, threw in some scripture (which is always my priority) for people to hopefully ponder, and that's basically it.

I honestly don't know what else to say because I have nothing else to say.

Well, except to say to Lynx that I'm not into what he called "pissing contests". What I am into instead is people. I could elaborate on this point, but I won't. If people don't know me by now, and what makes me tick, then I doubt that they ever will or that they even desire to do so.

In either case, no one has offended me here, but I do believe that some comments that were made in this thread are offensive to God himself.

Anyhow, I think that I'm officially done on this tread.

Good night.

P.S.

I probably shouldn't add this, but I will.

Just so you know that you truly haven't run me off with your comments here, I will let you know that you were very much a part of the reason why I left this website my first time through here as "Live4Him". Not that you committed some great offense, but more so in the sense that you disappointed me, and it was kind of a "last straw" for me in that I felt that you were one of the few bright spots here at that time.

By "disappointed", I mean that I felt then, and probably still do now, that you have a lot more to offer from a scriptural standpoint than you normally offer here. Anyhow, that's just my own personal observation/assessment, and although you might take it negatively, it could also be seen as a positive or a bit of a nudge to share more of God's word here.

That's your call. At my end, I'm just being my usual honest self...even if you think I'm honestly wrong.
Call me a glutton for punishment, but, now that some time has passed, I'll say the following...

If you go back and reread what I actually said, then I think/hope that you'll realize that there was nothing truly offensive in my words at all.

Seeing how my "P.S." is what obviously caused the offense, I'll just quickly cover what I actually said and meant.

In relation to you being "very much a part of the reason why I left this website my first time through here as 'Live4Him'" or the "last straw", I deliberately and honestly told you "NOT that you committed some great offense, but more so in the sense that you disappointed me". Don't miss the "NOT that you committed some great offense" part because what little of your response that I read seemed to indicate that you thought I was highly offended with you and highly offensive towards you, and nothing could be further from the truth in that neither were what I actually felt or intended.

I then went on to explain exactly what my "disappointment" was, and a "disappointment" is basically a nonfulfillment of one's hopes.

And what was my hope?

That you'd become like me?

No, not at all.

As I said, "you were one of the few BRIGHT SPOTS here at that time".

Not a DARK CLOUD, but a BRIGHT SPOT.

How so?

Because, unlike most people here whose posts I've read who quote scripture, I felt as if you were handling God's word rightly when you did share it, and I therefore hoped that you would share more of it.

Is it such a horrible thing for a Christian man who absolutely loves God's word and people to desire to see God's word shared rightly with others?

That's honestly all that I was referring to.

Nothing about NOT showing humanity to others, but simply a desire to see you share more of God's word which is not only incorruptible seed, but also spirit and life.

Also, I wasn't talking about "bombarding" anyone with scripture in some inhumane manner as if I were Attila the Hun or something or advocating anything even remotely related to the same. No. Simply a verse here and there because God's word has tremendous potential healing power in it.

That's truly all that I was trying to say.

Anyhow, I figured that my comments would probably be misconstrued, and that is why I said that you'll probably see it as a negative, but it truly wasn't intended that way.

Of course, I fully expected for some others here to "pile on", and that came to fruition as well.

Anyhow, I'm NOT your enemy.

If you do choose to respond, then please just reread my post before you do. I wasn't seeking to condemn or judge you in the least. My first time through here (and my second and third?) was hardly a day at the beach. In fact, it was almost constant grief, and you were a BRIGHT SPOT. That's what I said.

For whatever that's worth.

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seoulsearch

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Call me a glutton for punishment, but, now that some time has passed, I'll say the following...

If you go back and reread what I actually said, then I think/hope that you'll realize that there was nothing truly offensive in my words at all.

Seeing how my "P.S." is what obviously caused the offense, I'll just quickly cover what I actually said and meant.

In relation to you being "very much a part of the reason why I left this website my first time through here as 'Live4Him'" or the "last straw", I deliberately and honestly told you "NOT that you committed some great offense, but more so in the sense that you disappointed me". Don't miss the "NOT that you committed some great offense" part because what little of your response that I read seemed to indicate that you thought I was highly offended with you and highly offensive towards you, and nothing could be further from the truth in that neither were what I actually felt or intended.

I then went on to explain exactly what my "disappointment" was, and a "disappointment" is basically a nonfulfillment of one's hopes.

And what was my hope?

That you'd become like me?

No, not at all.

As I said, "you were one of the few BRIGHT SPOTS here at that time".

Not a DARK CLOUD, but a BRIGHT SPOT.

How so?

Because, unlike most people here whose posts I've read who quote scripture, I felt as if you were handling God's word rightly when you did share it, and I therefore hoped that you would share more of it.

Is it such a horrible thing for a Christian man who absolutely loves God's word and people to desire to see God's word shared rightly with others?

That's honestly all that I was referring to.

Nothing about NOT showing humanity to others, but simply a desire to see you share more of God's word which is not only incorruptible seed, but also spirit and life.

Also, I wasn't talking about "bombarding" anyone with scripture in some inhumane manner as if I were Attila the Hun or something or advocating anything even remotely related to the same. No. Simply a verse here and there because God's word has tremendous potential healing power in it.

That's truly all that I was trying to say.

Anyhow, I figured that my comments would probably be misconstrued, and that is why I said that you'll probably see it as a negative, but it truly wasn't intended that way.

Of course, I fully expected for some others here to "pile on", and that came to fruition as well.

Anyhow, I'm NOT your enemy.

If you do choose to respond, then please just reread my post before you do. I wasn't seeking to condemn or judge you in the least. My first time through here (and my second and third?) was hardly a day at the beach. In fact, it was almost constant grief, and you were a BRIGHT SPOT. That's what I said.

For whatever that's worth.

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I took the time to write out several replies to what you had to say to me, and you clearly said you would not read them.

I don't see anything here indicating that this has changed.

Therefore, you're not trying to engage in a conversation, but rather a rehash of strictly your own point of view.

I have limited time here and choose to spend it with people who are trying to tell me something without listening to or acknowledging my replies.

Yes, you may have said I was a bright spot and I thank you but that was immediately followed with, "But you disappointed me..."

I met you with clear, direct answers.

Once again, your main focus is allowing your own point of view to be heard without letting me voice my own.

Please move on to the next person you want to talk to, give advice to, or correct but without listening to.

My replies were of no value to you; please move on and choose someone else to bless.
 

seoulsearch

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Call me a glutton for punishment, but, now that some time has passed, I'll say the following...

If you go back and reread what I actually said, then I think/hope that you'll realize that there was nothing truly offensive in my words at all.

Seeing how my "P.S." is what obviously caused the offense, I'll just quickly cover what I actually said and meant.

In relation to you being "very much a part of the reason why I left this website my first time through here as 'Live4Him'" or the "last straw", I deliberately and honestly told you "NOT that you committed some great offense, but more so in the sense that you disappointed me". Don't miss the "NOT that you committed some great offense" part because what little of your response that I read seemed to indicate that you thought I was highly offended with you and highly offensive towards you, and nothing could be further from the truth in that neither were what I actually felt or intended.

I then went on to explain exactly what my "disappointment" was, and a "disappointment" is basically a nonfulfillment of one's hopes.

And what was my hope?

That you'd become like me?

No, not at all.

As I said, "you were one of the few BRIGHT SPOTS here at that time".

Not a DARK CLOUD, but a BRIGHT SPOT.

How so?

Because, unlike most people here whose posts I've read who quote scripture, I felt as if you were handling God's word rightly when you did share it, and I therefore hoped that you would share more of it.

Is it such a horrible thing for a Christian man who absolutely loves God's word and people to desire to see God's word shared rightly with others?

That's honestly all that I was referring to.

Nothing about NOT showing humanity to others, but simply a desire to see you share more of God's word which is not only incorruptible seed, but also spirit and life.

Also, I wasn't talking about "bombarding" anyone with scripture in some inhumane manner as if I were Attila the Hun or something or advocating anything even remotely related to the same. No. Simply a verse here and there because God's word has tremendous potential healing power in it.

That's truly all that I was trying to say.

Anyhow, I figured that my comments would probably be misconstrued, and that is why I said that you'll probably see it as a negative, but it truly wasn't intended that way.

Of course, I fully expected for some others here to "pile on", and that came to fruition as well.

Anyhow, I'm NOT your enemy.

If you do choose to respond, then please just reread my post before you do. I wasn't seeking to condemn or judge you in the least. My first time through here (and my second and third?) was hardly a day at the beach. In fact, it was almost constant grief, and you were a BRIGHT SPOT. That's what I said.

For whatever that's worth.

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Just to clarify, I can handle people being disappointed in me -- and unless they are foundational people in my life, I don't sweat it.

But what I don't accept is people wanting me to hear them without reiterating or showing any sign of hearing what I take the time to say back.

At that point, the conversation had ended.
 

seoulsearch

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I apologize for the egregious typos in my posts, as I'm trying to get ready for an appointment, but I think most will be able to interpret what I was trying to say.

Have a blessed night.
 

Lynx

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Call me a glutton for punishment, but, now that some time has passed, I'll say the following...

If you go back and reread what I actually said, then I think/hope that you'll realize that there was nothing truly offensive in my words at all.

Seeing how my "P.S." is what obviously caused the offense, I'll just quickly cover what I actually said and meant.

In relation to you being "very much a part of the reason why I left this website my first time through here as 'Live4Him'" or the "last straw", I deliberately and honestly told you "NOT that you committed some great offense, but more so in the sense that you disappointed me". Don't miss the "NOT that you committed some great offense" part because what little of your response that I read seemed to indicate that you thought I was highly offended with you and highly offensive towards you, and nothing could be further from the truth in that neither were what I actually felt or intended.

I then went on to explain exactly what my "disappointment" was, and a "disappointment" is basically a nonfulfillment of one's hopes.

And what was my hope?

That you'd become like me?

No, not at all.

As I said, "you were one of the few BRIGHT SPOTS here at that time".

Not a DARK CLOUD, but a BRIGHT SPOT.

How so?

Because, unlike most people here whose posts I've read who quote scripture, I felt as if you were handling God's word rightly when you did share it, and I therefore hoped that you would share more of it.

Is it such a horrible thing for a Christian man who absolutely loves God's word and people to desire to see God's word shared rightly with others?

That's honestly all that I was referring to.

Nothing about NOT showing humanity to others, but simply a desire to see you share more of God's word which is not only incorruptible seed, but also spirit and life.

Also, I wasn't talking about "bombarding" anyone with scripture in some inhumane manner as if I were Attila the Hun or something or advocating anything even remotely related to the same. No. Simply a verse here and there because God's word has tremendous potential healing power in it.

That's truly all that I was trying to say.

Anyhow, I figured that my comments would probably be misconstrued, and that is why I said that you'll probably see it as a negative, but it truly wasn't intended that way.

Of course, I fully expected for some others here to "pile on", and that came to fruition as well.

Anyhow, I'm NOT your enemy.

If you do choose to respond, then please just reread my post before you do. I wasn't seeking to condemn or judge you in the least. My first time through here (and my second and third?) was hardly a day at the beach. In fact, it was almost constant grief, and you were a BRIGHT SPOT. That's what I said.

For whatever that's worth.

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Live4HimX here is the short version, since you skip over the long version:

You talk and talk and talk about your side but refuse to listen to other people's sides, so there's no reason to keep talking to you when you won't listen.
 

Live4Him3

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Live4HimX here is the short version, since you skip over the long version:

You talk and talk and talk about your side but refuse to listen to other people's sides, so there's no reason to keep talking to you when you won't listen.
For a "minister", you sure do make a lot of wrong judgments.

I've listened to plenty.

You're focusing on the one exception, and, even then, I heard enough.

No worries.

You can have the last word.