Mary as the mother of God?

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eternally-gratefull

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The simple question is, WHO is Mary the mother of?

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Well since God has no beginning, and had no birth. Mary is NOT the mother of God.

However, Jesus did need a human body to enter to be able to do the work God planned to send him to do. So Mary is the mother of the Flesh of Jesus. She gave him his earthly flawed body.
Jesus body was flawed, However he was not infected with original sin, because he was not of Adam, Thus he was not born dead, as all men are. Thus the reason for virgin birth. Jesus was not infected with the sin nature passed on from adam (men) He was born as Adam was created, free from sin (although his body had the same curse). The difference is Adam failed, and thus condemned all man kind. for as scripture says, when Adam sinned all sinned. Christ lived a life free of sin.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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That's kind of a cop out to the question. But the fact that God needs no mother is irrelevant, since God chose a mother.

No, God chose someone to give a human body for his son. He did not chose a mother. God has no mother. I think Resurrection said it clearly. The vary God who formed mary in her mothers womb could does not need her to be his mother. He was before abraham, he was also before mary. she gave a human body to allow his spirit to reside in and do what he did.
 
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God created Mary. Would you have me believe that Mary is his mother?
YES. But this does not mean that she brought God into existance or anything. Thatc crazy. And to deny that Mary is the mother of God is to deny that Jesus is God and to deny that she gave birth to Him.
 
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YES. But this does not mean that she brought God into existance or anything. Thatc crazy. And to deny that Mary is the mother of God is to deny that Jesus is God and to deny that she gave birth to Him.
You would have me believe that God created his own mother?
 
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And what about St. Elizabeth: "and how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" Luke 1:43
 
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And what about St. Elizabeth: "and how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" Luke 1:43
Mary did a wonderful thing by allowing the Father to place Jesus inside her. She was a virgin, but how many people believed that when she had become pregnant?

But I will not worship her.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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YES. But this does not mean that she brought God into existance or anything. Thatc crazy. And to deny that Mary is the mother of God is to deny that Jesus is God and to deny that she gave birth to Him.

God has no mother. so yes I deny Mary is the mother of God.

Before Mary was. Jesus is. he is eternal. he was not created in Mary,. she gave birth to his human flesh, that is all.
 
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SantoSubito

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God created Mary. Would you have me believe that Mary is his mother?
In the sense that God was created by Mary, no. But in the sense that Mary is the mother of Jesus the second person of the Trinity and each person of the Trinity is fully God, yes.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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In the sense that God was created by Mary, no. But in the sense that Mary is the mother of Jesus the second person of the Trinity and each person of the Trinity is fully God, yes.
Question. How can Mary be the mother of the second person of the trinity when the second person of the trinity helped create the heavens and the earth? He also formed mary when she was in her mothers womb. how can the one who formed her have her as his mother?
 
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Mother of God?? Mother of the Creator of the heavens and the earth?? Mother of the Lord of the universe??, { Say: He is God the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him } Qur'an 112.
 
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Question. How can Mary be the mother of the second person of the trinity when the second person of the trinity helped create the heavens and the earth? He also formed mary when she was in her mothers womb. how can the one who formed her have her as his mother?
Because Mary gave birth to Christ, God incarnate in the flesh. So by definition that makes her his mother. Of course you hold that Mary simply carried a soulless husk in her womb so I wouldn't expect you to believe it. But I will say that at least your position is intellectually honest when it comes to rejecting the title Mother of God.
 
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In the sense that God was created by Mary, no. But in the sense that Mary is the mother of Jesus the second person of the Trinity and each person of the Trinity is fully God, yes.
No one ranks above God the Father (or Jesus, or the Holy Spirit).

God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are the same person, I believe, by the way.
 
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SantoSubito

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No one ranks above God the Father (or Jesus, or the Holy Spirit).

God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are the same person, I believe, by the way.
Yeah we weren't implying that Mary somehow ranks above God. By chance are you a oneness pentecostal? Or to be more blunt do you believe in the Trinity?
 
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Yeah we weren't implying that Mary somehow ranks above God. By chance are you a oneness pentecostal? Or to be more blunt do you believe in the Trinity?
Do you believe Mary ranks somewhere between God and us?

I believe in one God who manifests himself in (at least) three ways: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.