yes i like this in that you all seem to understand to see "past-tense","present-tense","future-tense" launguage as it was used in the bible,,,,,,many times i've listened to or pertisapated in semanars regarding "revalations",,,,,,,,,,now i noticed years ago "most" tend to enlighten us on "when it's going to happen",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i always point back to the beggining,,"rev.1;19",,,,,,,,thou hast seen,,which are,,,,,,,,,and shall be hereafter,,,,,,,,,,three different tense's,,,,,,,,past present and future,,now without recerching each word as you are doing here most will not see that christ himself tells john things you have seen,,(past),,,,,,,,which are(present),,shall be hereafter(future),,so the revalation of christ begin's at creation,,,then the preasent day church when john was alive,,,,,,,,,,,then from john till the ????????now the three mixed together are babylon/confusion,,,,,,,but these three tenses seperate,,,,,set where they ought be,,,is the spirit of proficy,,,and the wisdom of christ is the spirit of proficy,,and the revalations of christ is the revalations of the wisdom of proficy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the tenses,,,,,,,,some can decern the wether,,but cannot decern the ,,,"times/tenses,,,,,,the proficies",,,when they were to happen or if they had been fulfilled,,,,if they could have decerned the times/proficies/tenses,,,,,,,,,,they would have realized that he was the mesiah standing in front of them fulfilling these proficies,,,,,i should not be speking of rev. 1;19,,,,,,,,its for another post,,,,,now as for "the text we recieved/textus receptus" wich is the translation of the latin,,"textus receptus",,,,,,,and so of what launguage was the original letter to the hebrews written????,,,now the "text we recieved" was from the koine greek,,,,,,,,,and then to several launguages and then to english,,,,,,hebrew is a very "poetical launguage",,and koine greek is not and if you notice the launguage of "hebrew's" where you are studding is "very poetical",,,,,,,,,paul is believed to have written this book,,but he states at times he was appointed "the apostle to the gentile" and that the twelve were appointed apostles to the jew,,,,,,,,now look back at rev. 1;19,,,,,,,,,,i jumped subject(you see i jumped subject),,,,,,,,,,,if paul was the apostle to the gentile,,and he then did not trust in the apostles the holy spirit sent to the hebrew,,,,,,,,,,,"he jumped subject",,he is preaching the gosphel to the ones that he knows the holy spirit sent peter,luke,matthew,ect. to preach to,,,,,,,,,seems like madness so far "but suffer me",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there is no mention of the destruction of jerusalem/a.d.70,in the book of hebrews,,,,,,,so it was written after the crucafiction of christ a.d32-34(spoken of in the text of hebrews)and before the destruction of jerusalem/a.d.70,,,,,,,,theres the math problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thirteen apostles,,,,,,,,,,,,where were they between 34 a.d.,,,and 70 a.d.????????? paul was beheaded in rome,,,peter was crucified upside-down,,,,john was alive in a.d.96,,,,,,,,,,,,,,steven was stoned to death at the beggining,thats four of the thirteen,,,,,,,,,,,,,,when did the other,,,,,,,,,,, "9",,die and where were they??????????but peter,paul and john still could have written this book,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"look at the tense of the words",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this is the "text we recieved/textus receptus",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,