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Since you choose to go off-topic , lol, it is,interesting that Mary was with the Holy Spirit , who was God who would be Jesus, i knooow, confusing, isn't it and how about while Mary was still pregnant with the Holy Spirit,inside her , Zecharias, who was Elizabeth's husband, and Liz would have John right before Mary would have Jesus, was with the Holy Spirit causint Zecarias to exclaim with joy .
I know I know, HOW can the Holy Spirit be in Mary and screaming holy goodness from Zecharias at the SAME TIME.
I DUNNO, but, ho w can God becime holy spirit Himself and be Jess and isn't it interesting too how 'God' is never spoken of as speaking in Matt., Mark, Liluke, John, except , of course, that 'voice' came from Heaven when Jesus was baptized.
As fir soul sleep, rache way to soulfully shoot it right in the heart milady. We are STRAIGHT-tracked to God immediately after death, we become a part iof The cloud of witnesses of hebrews 12:1 and those saints that came out of The graves when The veil to re and Jesus, who was God, who officially then would give all who became born of God and received, The , I mean His Holy Spirit.
Amazing, that God of ours, He never sleeps
I know I know, HOW can the Holy Spirit be in Mary and screaming holy goodness from Zecharias at the SAME TIME.
I DUNNO, but, ho w can God becime holy spirit Himself and be Jess and isn't it interesting too how 'God' is never spoken of as speaking in Matt., Mark, Liluke, John, except , of course, that 'voice' came from Heaven when Jesus was baptized.
As fir soul sleep, rache way to soulfully shoot it right in the heart milady. We are STRAIGHT-tracked to God immediately after death, we become a part iof The cloud of witnesses of hebrews 12:1 and those saints that came out of The graves when The veil to re and Jesus, who was God, who officially then would give all who became born of God and received, The , I mean His Holy Spirit.
Amazing, that God of ours, He never sleeps
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NO WAY that anyone resurrected before Jesus. Moses was dead and yet he was alive.
Deu 34:7 And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.
Luk 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
Luk 9:31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Luk 9:32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
Deu 34:7 And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.
Luk 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
Luk 9:31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Luk 9:32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
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Sorry but someone asked something about Jesus dying.(death is the topic) So I don't see how that's off topic. This tread is not about the trinity only death if you want to make another tread about the trinity we can talk about it there.
1Co 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Co 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
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So God was dead in a grave for three days and three nights? Even Jonah was alive in the belly of the fish for three days and three nights, and surely Jonah isnt greater than Jesus?
Jon 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Jon 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jon 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Jon 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
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Well Jonah could of called that his shaol or grave (meaning he would of died) but seeing how he prayed to God the fish spit him out of his mouth. In others Jonah repented.
Jon 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice
Jon 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice
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How Jesus has not come back yet ?
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
The last trump is found in:
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
The last trump is found in:
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
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In the NT, mustērion refers to something that God wills to make known to those who are willing to receive His revelation, rather than to something that He desires to keep secret.
Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
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Thus concludes some of the dead , like Jesus, the cloud of witnesses, and, oh, almost forgot fish-belly , swallowed guy, are NOT ever having slept after dying or was JONAH alive, at first, after having been tossed into the cold, stormy sea and usurped throigh the throat, esophagus and in the STOMACH kf abfish uh, yeah, Jonah died and THEN became alive, like that six year old kid that actually died on life sypoort, DEAD, saw Heaven, came back to earth and now has a bestseller he wrote, .
Like that green, Jonah died lke that?
Like that.
Maybe, no, yes, hmmm, the Lors leads, ai pray, words are powerful, you know, especially His words, ah, your spirit in me , Lord. Does it now preach Truth or truth?
lettuce now cabbge apart scripture, some indeed 'sleep in Jesus,' this, BEHOLD, MY CHRIST PEEPS, is a mystery to me, but no there are those saints that rose from ground and temle torn in two when Jesus arose, thise clouds of witnesses watchimg us now , Hebrews 12:1 ? Says.
No, no, no, I tell you a mystery SOME are not asleep. Jesus certaunly died but He was alive you can be certain in The heart of The earth, He was alive 'preaching to The spirits' in paradise, doesn't timothy or titus say? Yes, it does.
Like that green, Jonah died lke that?
Like that.
Maybe, no, yes, hmmm, the Lors leads, ai pray, words are powerful, you know, especially His words, ah, your spirit in me , Lord. Does it now preach Truth or truth?
lettuce now cabbge apart scripture, some indeed 'sleep in Jesus,' this, BEHOLD, MY CHRIST PEEPS, is a mystery to me, but no there are those saints that rose from ground and temle torn in two when Jesus arose, thise clouds of witnesses watchimg us now , Hebrews 12:1 ? Says.
No, no, no, I tell you a mystery SOME are not asleep. Jesus certaunly died but He was alive you can be certain in The heart of The earth, He was alive 'preaching to The spirits' in paradise, doesn't timothy or titus say? Yes, it does.
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Christ was not dead as we understand dead
He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, through whom he went and preached to the Spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built
1Peter3:18-20
For this is the reason the Gospel was preached even to those who are now dead so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard tio the Spirit
1Peter4:6
He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, through whom he went and preached to the Spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built
1Peter3:18-20
For this is the reason the Gospel was preached even to those who are now dead so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard tio the Spirit
1Peter4:6
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Jesus did not preach to the spirits in prison when He died, a look at the texts will show that
1 Peter 3:18-20
(18) For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
(19) By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
(20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
This tells us that through the Spirit Christ preach to the spirits in prison in the days of Noah.
Genesis 6:3
(3) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
John 8:34-36
(34) Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
(35) And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
(36) If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
1 Peter 3:18-20
(18) For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
(19) By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
(20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
This tells us that through the Spirit Christ preach to the spirits in prison in the days of Noah.
Genesis 6:3
(3) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
John 8:34-36
(34) Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
(35) And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
(36) If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.