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Lets look at the text
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
What spirits were disobedient in the times of Noah? The fallen angels. Humans are rarely (almost never) described as being a spirit.
Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Why compare those angels with Sodom and Gomorrah? Because they committed unnatural fornication's.
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
What spirits were disobedient in the times of Noah? The fallen angels. Humans are rarely (almost never) described as being a spirit.
Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Why compare those angels with Sodom and Gomorrah? Because they committed unnatural fornication's.
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You have it completely backwards. What was being done on Earth in the tabernacle WAS SYMBOLIC and a type of what is in Heaven. Again, you're just going to scriptures to pull out one or 2 verses that you think can help you "win" as opposed to rightly dividing scripture.
By your logic, nothing in chapters 4-6 of Revelation ever happened. John was never told by God "come hither." He never saw a door open to Heaven. He never saw The Lord on His Throne. Or Jesus come and open the book no man could open. And so on. It's an incredibly wrong way of interpreting Scripture.
Jesus literally took the sealed book from the right hand of The Father. Jesus literally opened it. And the martyrs are literally there. To think John would attribute a quote to God, that The Lord never actually said makes absolutely no sense. As I said before, this one passage ends the discussion and the heresy of soul sleep. But I can see that you will use any scripture to just try and prove a point with no humility before God. I hope that you will let the BIble speak in the future and if you are a part of SDA, that you stop following the false prophet Ellen G. White and believe in Christ for salvation to follow Biblical Christianity.
By your logic, nothing in chapters 4-6 of Revelation ever happened. John was never told by God "come hither." He never saw a door open to Heaven. He never saw The Lord on His Throne. Or Jesus come and open the book no man could open. And so on. It's an incredibly wrong way of interpreting Scripture.
Jesus literally took the sealed book from the right hand of The Father. Jesus literally opened it. And the martyrs are literally there. To think John would attribute a quote to God, that The Lord never actually said makes absolutely no sense. As I said before, this one passage ends the discussion and the heresy of soul sleep. But I can see that you will use any scripture to just try and prove a point with no humility before God. I hope that you will let the BIble speak in the future and if you are a part of SDA, that you stop following the false prophet Ellen G. White and believe in Christ for salvation to follow Biblical Christianity.
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According to what you think it is literal. You have given nothing but your own opinion and have not used the Bible to show it is literal. What about the 4 horses are they literal or symbolic? The Lamb in 6:1 is that a literal Lamb or symbolic? What about 5:6 the lamb with 7 horns and 7 eyes is that literal or symbolic? What about the 4 beasts in 4:7 are they literal or symbolic?
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Job 6:4
(4) For the arrows of the Almighty are within me, the poison whereof drinketh up my spirit: the terrors of God do set themselves in array against me.
Job 7:11
(11) Therefore I will not refrain my mouth; I will speak in the anguish of my spirit; I will complain in the bitterness of my soul.
Job 10:12
(12) Thou hast granted me life and favour, and thy visitation hath preserved my spirit.
Job 21:4
(4) As for me, is my complaint to man? and if it were so, why should not my spirit be troubled?
Psalms 31:5
(5) Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.
Psalms 77:3
(3) I remembered God, and was troubled: I complained, and my spirit was overwhelmed. Selah.
Daniel 2:3
(3) And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the dream.
(4) For the arrows of the Almighty are within me, the poison whereof drinketh up my spirit: the terrors of God do set themselves in array against me.
Job 7:11
(11) Therefore I will not refrain my mouth; I will speak in the anguish of my spirit; I will complain in the bitterness of my soul.
Job 10:12
(12) Thou hast granted me life and favour, and thy visitation hath preserved my spirit.
Job 21:4
(4) As for me, is my complaint to man? and if it were so, why should not my spirit be troubled?
Psalms 31:5
(5) Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.
Psalms 77:3
(3) I remembered God, and was troubled: I complained, and my spirit was overwhelmed. Selah.
Daniel 2:3
(3) And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the dream.
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I post scriptures and you say later that I don't. I make arguments and you do not address them. But now you demand that I answer your questions which have no relevance to what I am posting. When you rightly divide the scriptures I cited and show me my errors and what is BIblical truth, I'll gladly answer your questions.
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Spirits. Gr. pneumata, plural of pneuma “wind,” “breath,” “spirit” (see on Luke 8:55; cf. on Num. 5:14). Breath is one of the conspicuous characteristics of living beings, and by a figure of speech (synecdoche), in which a characteristic part of a thing stands for the whole, pneuma means simply “person.” Compare 1 Cor 16:18, where “my spirit” means “me,” and Gal. 6:18; 2 Tim. 4:22; etc., where “your spirit”means “you” (cf. Phil. 4:23). See on Heb. 12:9, 23; cf. Num. 16:22; 27:16. Accordingly, these “spirits” can be considered living human beings. In fact, the first part of v. 20 apparently identifies them as people living on the earth immediately prior to the Flood. They were as certainly real, living human beings as were the the “eight souls” of v. 20.
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Into Thy hands I commit My Spirit.
What happened after Jesus said this?
Therefore, since Jesus died after saying the aforementioned phrase, this tells us that Jesus was giving Himself to Himself. He was giving His 'self' to God, His flesh being.
Spirit of the living God fell afresh...
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Why be naive?
the spirits in prison preached to were in a 'paradise' prison, why in the world would Xhrist go speak to the people in prison before the Flood, in the days of Noah.
Don't be naive. This was contextual with 'Paradise' and 'Paradise' only, plus, as for the souls in rev. 4-6....
Really , Laid, John's vision was nothing more than reference to burnt offerings in, Leviticus?
C'mon, you know better than that. I know, none of us know all of 'death,,' because there is mystery in its utter meaning, and, Paul knows this too, although, to me, it is clear that some will 'sleep in Jesus' while some will go.to Paradise, and, I say this with it being mystery.
Chessbuddy, your tornness on this understanding is a veil to ALL
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Matthew 5:3
(3) Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 8:12
(12) And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
Mark 14:38
(38) Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
Romans 12:11
(11) Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;
1 Corinthians 6:20
(20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
1 Corinthians 16:18
(18) For they have refreshed my spirit and yours: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.
The word spirit highlighted red in these verses is translated from the same word as spirit in 1 Peter 3:19 and it proves the the word spirit in
1 Peter 3:19 is not just referring to a disembodied spirit as you are trying to make out.
(3) Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 8:12
(12) And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
Mark 14:38
(38) Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
Romans 12:11
(11) Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;
1 Corinthians 6:20
(20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
1 Corinthians 16:18
(18) For they have refreshed my spirit and yours: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.
The word spirit highlighted red in these verses is translated from the same word as spirit in 1 Peter 3:19 and it proves the the word spirit in
1 Peter 3:19 is not just referring to a disembodied spirit as you are trying to make out.
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I post scriptures and you say later that I don't. I make arguments and you do not address them. But now you demand that I answer your questions which have no relevance to what I am posting. When you rightly divide the scriptures I cited and show me my errors and what is BIblical truth, I'll gladly answer your questions.
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Into Thy hands I commit My Spirit.
What happened after Jesus said this?
Therefore, since Jesus died after saying the aforementioned phrase, this tells us that Jesus was giving Himself to Himself. He was giving His 'self' to God, His flesh being.
Spirit of the living God fell afresh...
_____
Why be naive?
the spirits in prison preached to were in a 'paradise' prison, why in the world would Xhrist go speak to the people in prison before the Flood, in the days of Noah.
Don't be naive. This was contextual with 'Paradise' and 'Paradise' only, plus, as for the souls in rev. 4-6....
Really , Laid, John's vision was nothing more than reference to burnt offerings in, Leviticus?
C'mon, you know better than that. I know, none of us know all of 'death,,' because there is mystery in its utter meaning, and, Paul knows this too, although, to me, it is clear that some will 'sleep in Jesus' while some will go.to Paradise, and, I say this with it being mystery.
Chessbuddy, your tornness on this understanding is a veil to ALL
What happened after Jesus said this?
Therefore, since Jesus died after saying the aforementioned phrase, this tells us that Jesus was giving Himself to Himself. He was giving His 'self' to God, His flesh being.
Spirit of the living God fell afresh...
_____
Why be naive?
the spirits in prison preached to were in a 'paradise' prison, why in the world would Xhrist go speak to the people in prison before the Flood, in the days of Noah.
Don't be naive. This was contextual with 'Paradise' and 'Paradise' only, plus, as for the souls in rev. 4-6....
Really , Laid, John's vision was nothing more than reference to burnt offerings in, Leviticus?
C'mon, you know better than that. I know, none of us know all of 'death,,' because there is mystery in its utter meaning, and, Paul knows this too, although, to me, it is clear that some will 'sleep in Jesus' while some will go.to Paradise, and, I say this with it being mystery.
Chessbuddy, your tornness on this understanding is a veil to ALL
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Check out this site soul (religion and philosophy) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
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The early Hebrews apparently had a concept of the soul but did not separate it from the body although later Jewish writers developed the idea of soul further. Biblical references to the soul are related to concept of breath and establish no distinction between the ethereal soul and the corporeal body. Christian concepts of a body-soul dichotomy originated with the ancient Greek and were introduced into Christian theology at an early date by St Gregory of Nyssa and by St Augustine. Taken from encyclopedia Britannica online from that web site i gave. In mat 10:28 the word soul Jesus is not making or supporting the Greek dichotomy between soul and body as separate entities. Jewish teaching did not think of persons as having souls separate from the body as Greek philosophy taught. Thus here Jesus is using the term "soul" to mean eternal life; Do not fear those who can take you from this present life (body), but fear Him who can also take away eternal life(soul). hell.