Mary the mother of my Lord (Heresy?)
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Is Mary the mother of God? No you have been shown this. but you do not want to see it. The prayers which I just responded to prove you think she is equal with God.
God has no mother. Jesus created Mary, The created can not create the creator.
Mother of God is a pagan term. The pagans worship the mother. Pray to her. And ask her to mediate for them. Not the children of God.
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My mother is in heaven. Why would I pray to her? how can she hear me? SHe is not God. She would have to be god to hear me. Read daniel. One angel it took days for them to even get to daniel after God told him to go. If an angel who has a body can not hear or come to us, then how can a sinner in paradise who is awaiting for their ressurection do what an angel can not do?
Ok one last thing Adam was created first and Eve was created from him. Even in genesis foreshadows Jesus as the new Adam and Mary the new Eve. You can't even see the truth presented in scripture or understand the bible or reason. You are set on a belief by men, because the bible tells us otherwise. Mary is the Mother of God.
Matthew 12: 35 The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
Once again we find you judging people instead of debating ideas.
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Oh ok so its ok for eternaly grateful to say I have said mary is my god when I havent ad itvs ok for
Him to say I pray to my loved ones in heaven when I havent and its ok for him to say who is holy and who isnt .
And its ok for him to say John Lennon got shot for saying what he did.
And I suppose its ok for you superdave to judge me also isnt it .
I suppose though as well that christians thinking they can use scripture to condemn people is ok to .
I am praying but not in a judmental hipricritiacal way but in the hope that christians remember there oath more often .
Him to say I pray to my loved ones in heaven when I havent and its ok for him to say who is holy and who isnt .
And its ok for him to say John Lennon got shot for saying what he did.
And I suppose its ok for you superdave to judge me also isnt it .
I suppose though as well that christians thinking they can use scripture to condemn people is ok to .
I am praying but not in a judmental hipricritiacal way but in the hope that christians remember there oath more often .
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I really want to leave this site on a good note I.wished I nether got involved in this thread.
Im off to tomorrow starting my work im not likely to back untill next year.
But whats the bet when I come back you havent let it go Or say an apolagy for the way yoy have spoke to me and rock .
I will forget about this now .
See yer next year rock .
Sorry I carnt be around for a while dood .
You got my email anyway bud take it easy bro
Im off to tomorrow starting my work im not likely to back untill next year.
But whats the bet when I come back you havent let it go Or say an apolagy for the way yoy have spoke to me and rock .
I will forget about this now .
See yer next year rock .
Sorry I carnt be around for a while dood .
You got my email anyway bud take it easy bro
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Scripture does not say Mary is the new eve. It says in adam all die. In christ all shall be made alive. Niether eve nor mary have any salvic or non salvic significants. Your trying to put things which are not based on scripture or based on fact. but only based on man nmade tradition.
Then according to you. God did not exist until mary birthed Christ.No wonder you people can not place faith in God. you think God was bore of men, and not the infinate creator he really is.
Then according to you. God did not exist until mary birthed Christ.No wonder you people can not place faith in God. you think God was bore of men, and not the infinate creator he really is.
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If she is in heaven, whether she is alive or not. She can not pray for me by knowing what it happening to me at any time. she can only pray for me as a mother. She can;t here me pray to her. nor would I pray to her. I will talk to her when I get to heaven, until then, I will pray to the father as God tells me to.
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so it is ok for you to offend me? talk about being a hypocrite.
Instead of sticking to facts all you want to do is attack?
I am trying to show you Christ. The only one who can save you. And who can give you eternal life where you never have to worry again. You worry because you do not believe in eternal life. Your still trying to earn salvation by your good deeds. and hoping Mary can help you. if you do not want Christ. that is not my problem.
Instead of sticking to facts all you want to do is attack?
I am trying to show you Christ. The only one who can save you. And who can give you eternal life where you never have to worry again. You worry because you do not believe in eternal life. Your still trying to earn salvation by your good deeds. and hoping Mary can help you. if you do not want Christ. that is not my problem.
How many times we have to tell you but you choose to believe other wise. We ask them for prayer, we ask them for prayer, we ask them for prayer! You really are stuck with the traditions of men believing wrong on certain believes. But you are not required to, nor need to ask for prayers to the saints. Those of us who believe simply ask because we are supposed to pray for one another, and pray with ought ceasing this is pleasant to the Lord. God is the God if the living not of the dead, so those who go to heaven LIVE and can pray for us. Who where the two persons that showed up with Jesus to the disciples? Clearly they are alive and can PRAY FOR US.
P.S. Next time some one asks you for prayer intercession tell them they are idol worshiping you, they are utterly wrong and need to ask Jesus and Jesus only, not you, not me, not anyone just Jesus. That is what you seem to believe.
P.S. Next time some one asks you for prayer intercession tell them they are idol worshiping you, they are utterly wrong and need to ask Jesus and Jesus only, not you, not me, not anyone just Jesus. That is what you seem to believe.
I really don't know what you are talking about. I made an observation that you judged EG's relationship with Christ, ("thinks its you who need to find Jesus", is what you said).
I said you are judging the person, and not the ideas, which is confirmed by the observation.
Please point out where I have judged you. Are you making this up as you go?
I said you are judging the person, and not the ideas, which is confirmed by the observation.
Please point out where I have judged you. Are you making this up as you go?
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You ask dead people, who are in paradise awaiting the return of their savior., who CAN NOT HEAR YOU. and you say I am wrong? The ONLY way they can hear you is if they ARE GOD. But no, you can't hear this. You instead condemn us.
No, that would be you. Scripture does not tell us to pray to the dead, and ask them to intercede for us. He tells us to ask OTHERS ON EARTH to pray for us, He tells us to pray for each other. SO WE CAN WITNESS GODS LOVE. God is a personal God, How can God shows his love for us as we SEE him answer prayer for each other. there is no reason for God to do what you say, it does not show his love.
We pray with each other. Not to people we can not see. and people who can not hear us. Any person who is a child of God is a saint/ They are made saints by the washed blood of Christ.
Doing this is commanded, and found in the word. it is called being a body of Christ. and is HUGELY different than praying to people who can not hear you unless they are God.
praying for you and being able to hear you is two different things. Only God is omniscient. We will nto be omniscient even in our glorified bodies, Yet you make these people have the character of God, then deny it.
Nope. God tells us to pray for and with each other. Your praying to idols. and hold them up to the characters of God.
Oh and by the way, If your praying to people who are alive to save you and intercede for you so you can get to heaven. Your praying and asking people to do things which are impossible. Only the father can save you, and the ONLY one who can intercede on your behalf for salvation IS JESUS!
No, that would be you. Scripture does not tell us to pray to the dead, and ask them to intercede for us. He tells us to ask OTHERS ON EARTH to pray for us, He tells us to pray for each other. SO WE CAN WITNESS GODS LOVE. God is a personal God, How can God shows his love for us as we SEE him answer prayer for each other. there is no reason for God to do what you say, it does not show his love.
We pray with each other. Not to people we can not see. and people who can not hear us. Any person who is a child of God is a saint/ They are made saints by the washed blood of Christ.
Doing this is commanded, and found in the word. it is called being a body of Christ. and is HUGELY different than praying to people who can not hear you unless they are God.
praying for you and being able to hear you is two different things. Only God is omniscient. We will nto be omniscient even in our glorified bodies, Yet you make these people have the character of God, then deny it.
Nope. God tells us to pray for and with each other. Your praying to idols. and hold them up to the characters of God.
Oh and by the way, If your praying to people who are alive to save you and intercede for you so you can get to heaven. Your praying and asking people to do things which are impossible. Only the father can save you, and the ONLY one who can intercede on your behalf for salvation IS JESUS!
Is your God is the god of the dead?
Mine is the God of the living. As you can see in...
Luke 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias
They where talking with Jesus, and in Revelations the saints are offering their prayers...
Revelations 5:8 ...which are the prayers of saints.
It is clearly written in the bible. You can read it but do you get it?
Where is that in the bible? I just answered!
Mine is the God of the living. As you can see in...
Luke 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias
They where talking with Jesus, and in Revelations the saints are offering their prayers...
Revelations 5:8 ...which are the prayers of saints.
It is clearly written in the bible. You can read it but do you get it?
Where is that in the bible? I just answered!