the scary history of mormonism

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zone

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Joseph Smith, Jr. (December 23, 1805 – June 27, 1844) was an American religious leader and the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, the predominant branch of which is Mormonism. At age twenty-four, Smith published the Book of Mormon, and in the next fourteen years he attracted thousands of followers, established cities and temples, and created a lasting religious culture.

Smith was born in Sharon, Vermont, and by 1817 had moved with his family to the burned-over district of western New York, an area repeatedly swept by religious revivals during the Second Great Awakening.

The Smiths believed in visions and prophecies, and participated in folk religious practices typical of the era. According to Smith, beginning in the early 1820s he had visions, in one of which an angel directed him to a buried book of golden plates inscribed with a Judeo-Christian history of ancient American civilizations. In 1830, he published what he said was an English translation of these plates as the Book of Mormon and organized the Church of Christ as a restoration of the early Christian church. Church members were later called Latter Day Saints, Saints, or Mormons.

In 1831, Smith and his followers moved west with plans to build a communalistic American Zion....



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zone

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Cosmology and theology
See also: Mormon cosmology and Godhead (Latter Day Saints)


Smith taught that all existence was material,[333] including a world of "spirit matter" so fine that it was invisible to all but the purest mortal eyes.[334] Matter, in Smith's view, could neither be created nor destroyed;[335] the creation involved only the reorganization of existing matter.[336] Like matter, "intelligence" was co-eternal with God, and human spirits had been drawn from a pre-existent pool of eternal intelligences.[337] Nevertheless, spirits were incapable of experiencing a "fullness of joy" unless joined with corporeal bodies.[338] The work and glory of God was to create worlds across the cosmos where inferior intelligences could be embodied.[339]

Though Smith initially viewed God the Father as a spirit,[340] he eventually began teaching that God was an advanced and glorified man,[341] embodied within time and space.[342] Both God the Father and Jesus were distinct beings with physical bodies, but the Holy Spirit was a "personage of Spirit".[343] Through the gradual acquisition of knowledge,[344] those who received exaltation could eventually become like God.[345] The ability of humans to progress to godhood implied a vast hierarchy of gods,[346] with God himself having a father.[347] Those who became gods would reign, unified in purpose and will, leading inferior intelligences to share immortality and eternal life.[348]...

...Apart from those who committed the eternal sin, Smith taught that even the wicked and disbelieving would achieve a degree of glory in the afterlife.[351]...


Religious authority and ritual
See also: Priesthood (Latter Day Saints) and Freemasonry and the Latter Day Saint movement

Smith's teachings were rooted in dispensational restorationism.[352]

Joseph Smith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

dispensational restorationism
dispensational restorationism
dispensational restorationism


it's not christian.

their god is actually Jah-Bu-Lon...just like another religion which masquerades as something else.
freemasonry is just a front.
so is jahbulon, G.A.O.T.U.
fronts.



nothing hidden about it really.
and their new order is actually just dispensational restorationism < hint
 
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Cosmology and theology
See also: Mormon cosmology and Godhead (Latter Day Saints)


the creation involved only the reorganization of existing matter.
Tzimtzum, Shevirah and Tikun
Main article: Lurianic Kabbalah

After publication of the Zohar in the late 13th century, attempts were made to interpret and systemise the doctrines within its imagery. This culminated in the successive, comprehensive expositions of Cordovero and Luria in 16th century Safed. While Cordovero systemised Medieval kabbalah in a rationally influenced linear scheme, this was subsequently superseded by the mythological, dynamic scheme of Isaac Luria, recorded by Chaim Vital and his other disciples. Lurianic theosophy became the foundation of modern kabbalah, incorporating Medieval theosophy within its wider explanation. The supra-rational Lurianic doctrines of Tzimtzum, Shevirah and Tikun reorganised Kabbalistic doctrine around crisis-catharsis Divine exile and redemption, explaining Jewish messianism in Kabbalah.

Tzimtzum (Constriction/Concentration) is the primordial cosmic act whereby God "contracted" His infinite light, leaving a "void" into which the light of existence was poured. This allowed the emergence of independent existence that would not become nullified by the pristine Infinite Light, reconciling the unity of the Ein Sof with the plurality of creation. This changed the first creative act into one of withdrawal/exile, the antithesis of the ultimate Divine Will. In contrast, a new emanation after the Tzimtzum shone into the vacuum to begin creation, but led to an initial instability called Tohu (Chaos), leading to a new crisis of Shevirah (Shattering) of the sephirot vessels. The shards of the broken vessels fell down into the lower realms, animated by remnants of their divine light, causing primordial exile within the Divine Persona before the creation of man. Exile and enclothement of higher divinity within lower realms throughout existence requires man to complete the Tikkun olam (Rectification) process. Rectification Above corresponds to the reorganization of the independent sefirot into relating Partzufim (Divine Personas), previously referred to obliquely in the Zohar. From the catastrophe stems the possibility of self-aware Creation, and also the Kelipot (Impure Shells) of previous Medieval kabbalah. The metaphorical anthropomorphism of the partzufim accenuates the sexual unifications of the redemption process, while Gilgul reincarnation emerges from the scheme. Uniquely, Lurianism gave formerly private mysticism the urgency of Messianic social involvement.

According to interpretations of Luria, the catastrophe stemmed from the "unwillingness" of the residue imprint after the Tzimtzum to relate to the new vitality that began creation. The process was arranged to shed and harmonise the Divine Infinity with the latent potential of evil.[43] The creation of Adam would have redeemed existence, but his sin caused new shevirah of Divine vitality, requiring the Giving of the Torah to begin Messianic rectification. Historical and individual history becomes the narrative of reclaiming exiled Divine sparks.

Kabbalah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click


As early as the 1st century BCE Jews believed that the Torah (first five books of the Hebrew Bible) and wider canonical texts contained encoded messages and hidden meanings. Gematria is one method for discovering its hidden meanings. Each letter in Hebrew also represents a number; Hebrew, unlike many other languages, never developed a separate numerical alphabet. By converting letters to numbers, Kabbalists were able to find a hidden meaning in each word. This method of interpretation was used extensively by various schools.


John 5:39
You pore over the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, yet they testify about Me.
Holman
 
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psychomom

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You know, I met Megan when our oldest child was an infant, so over 30 years ago.
One morning she came for coffee, and my daughter was particularly adorable that day,
and when she said how wonderful it was that the baby chose to be born, and to have us as her parents...
well, an alarm went off in my head!

Then she asked if I wanted to do a Bible study with her, and with all the 'wisdom' of my 21 years, I refused. :rolleyes:
In convo a few weeks later, she did let it slip that if I became a Mormon and was 'good enough',
I could one day be 'god' over a planet of people.
That was one of the saddest days I've lived through. :(

The original sin...you can be like the Most High.
yeah...I don't think so.
Not in that way.
I'm more than happy to have Him conform me to His own character...

Is it bad that I get sad when Mormons are offended that we don't consider them 'Christians'?
I just wish the lie wasn't taught,
but as Zone showed, it's much more far-reaching than just the LDS 'church'. :(
 

zone

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The Book of Mormon vs The Bible,

Part 1 of an in-depth study of Latter Day Saints


Intoduction & Archeology
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U21MQSjxT8[/video]

The entire series is linked to the above post and may be found at:

The Book of Mormon vs The Bible, Part 1 of an indepth study of Latter Day Saints Archeology - YouTube <<-- LINK

Review of the series with comments will make for a good discussion, good edification ...

Digital_Angel
good placement into the discussion - per: comparing one to the other.
i haven't watched all yet, but i will and am.

couple comments:

positively - the most effective exit missionaries/expositors of any cult are always former members h'obviously.
how happy we would be if we all testified about whatever we came out of, and served our neighbor right where we were newly planted. thanks for posting this DA.
(have you watched The Seventh Day Abomination series?)
z

PART 1:
@4:40ish
the same dispy error [do they go on to correct it?] is introduced already!
re - the captivities of N&S....the claim is made then that only judah (jews) return.
this single pernicious error is the root of what can only be broadly called dispensationalism.

@5:20ish immediately we see a tragically laughable retooling of the story of the israelites taking canaan -pp: "a mysterious people is already in the land; bloodthristy etc; die off; in comes a remnant of true israelites [who have white skin], among who's progeny we see two branches":

a righteous branch with white skin
a second branch who gets cursed with dark skin for their rebelliousness.


!! sound familiar?

LDS was and is one tentacle of the advance guard/project gladio of another, older supremacist/racist cult.
it had to sow the seeds of that lie in America [every plant bearing its own seed after its own kind].
and establish a base of operations from which to labor under cover of freedom of religion.
all the while being a subversive religio-political movement.

the masses [converts] do not know. clearly. ppl are/were searching for The Lord....and in America, if you attached the Name of Jesus to it, you could have success.

we may be shocked; saddened and even amused at the absurdity of the mormon fables - but do we recognize the same weed inside 'orthodox' christianity??

all because of the great deception that a remnant from BOTH HOUSES OF ISRAEL did not return to Palestine/Jerusalem per Daniel 9! < this single fabrication is the mother of all errors:(

tragically the ppl in the deepest shadows who started this whole thing have white-ish skin; yet do really consider themselves 'white" < WHATEVER ANY OF THAT MEANS OR MATTERS IS BEYOND ME!
......

ttyl DA.
thx...z
 
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zone

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correction:

all because of the great deception that a remnant from BOTH HOUSES OF ISRAEL did not return to Palestine/Jerusalem per Daniel 9! < this single fabrication is the mother of all errors:(

tragically the ppl in the deepest shadows who started this whole thing have white-ish skin; yet do not really consider themselves 'white" < WHATEVER ANY OF THAT MEANS OR MATTERS IS BEYOND ME!
......

ttyl DA.
thx...z
 

zone

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"Now take a person in this congregation who has knowledge with regard to being saved... and suppose that he is overtaken in a gross fault, that he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding his blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin and be saved and exalted with the Gods, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say, 'shed my blood that I may be saved and exalted with the Gods?'

"All mankind love themselves, and let these principles be known by an individual, and he would be glad to have his blood shed. That would be loving themselves, even unto an eternal exaltation. Will you love your brothers and sisters likewise, when they have committed a sin that cannot be atoned for without the shedding of their blood? Will you love that man or woman well enough to shed their blood? That is what Jesus Christ meant...."

Brigham Young LDS


this is just Freemasonic vows of secrecy about what they do.
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