Paul did NOT die to the law!

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Eccl12and13

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What law did Paul give to the Gentiles that he later changed his mind on?

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All of God's high days will be kept when Jesus returns;

Zech.14
[1] Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
[2] For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
[3] Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
[4] And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
[16] And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
[17] And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
[18] And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
[19] This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

All of God's laws will be kept when Jesus returns.


Even the Levitical Priesthood will be brought back when Jesus returns.


You guys don't know this?


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No we all know the premil position pretty well. But all of us dont buy into it.
Keep in mind that book first of all is not chronological.......wasnt written
with chapters and verses. And talked about different fulfillment times. And often
it turns on a dime in its flow.

Also remember the prophets themselves didnt have much of a clue what they were writing
which was made clear by Paul being as it was a mystery. 2 Advents were presumed by
some but not many. Jesus had to open the disciples eyes for them to see it.

That in mind its hard to believe so many think that only a literal chronological approach
should be taken. In other words the book is talking about different periods of time. The coming
of the Lord, 70ad, church age, final state. Takes careful study to work it all out since
the mystery was hidden.
 
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zone

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What law did Paul give to the Gentiles that he later changed his mind on?
i'm rather tired of your theology, and your clear determination to undermine the Christian faith...do we need a New Perspective on Paul? (of course we do for your tricks to work).

repent and be baptized for the remission of sins in Christ's Name.
receive the Holy Spirit and receive eternal life.
take part in communion with the saints.

or find another religion.

 
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But we were given the New Testament....isnt that cool :)
 
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Eccl12and13

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i'm rather tired of your theology, and your clear determination to undermine the Christian faith...do we need a New Perspective on Paul? (of course we do for your tricks to work).

Sooooo....you don't know what law Paul gave to the Gentiles that he later changed his mind on!

That's alright...most don't either. You are not alone.

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zone

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Sooooo....you don't know what law Paul gave to the Gentiles that he later changed his mind on!
That's alright...most don't either. You are not alone.
if paul was here he'd say anathema to you.
The Word of God stands.
he's still saying it today.

if you were ever near to the Gospel, you have been severed from grace.
your doctrine has been condemned.

repent and be saved.
 
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Eccl12and13

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That in mind its hard to believe so many think that only a literal chronological approach
should be taken. In other words the book is talking about different periods of time. The coming
of the Lord, 70ad, church age, final state. Takes careful study to work it all out since
the mystery was hidden.

So tell us....just what time will it be when ALL nations will worship the Lord? It will happen when Jesus rules here on earth for 1000 years! That happens upon His return.


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Eccl12and13

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if paul was here he'd say anathema to you.
The Word of God stands.
he's still saying it today.

if you were ever near to the Gospel, you have been severed from grace.
your doctrine has been condemned.

repent and be saved.

What did Paul give to the Gentiles first....the milk of the word or the meat of the word?

Like I said...Paul first gave the Gentiles what they needed. Afterward he changed a law that was given to something they were now ready for.

Do you not know the law that he later changed?


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Eccl12and13

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if you were ever near to the Gospel, you have been severed from grace.

So now you know my fate? I have been severed from grace? I thought I could not loose grace!


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eternally-gratefull

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So now you know my fate? I have been severed from grace? I thought I could not loose grace!
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You don't even know what Grace is, nor have you received it, Your still trying to earn it. You can't lose something you never had!
 
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if you were ever near to the Gospel, you have been severed from grace.

So now you know my fate? I have been severed from grace? I thought I could not loose grace!

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So tell us....just what time will it be when ALL nations will worship the Lord? It will happen when Jesus rules here on earth for 1000 years! That happens upon His return.


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1 Peter 2:9 But you are not like that, for you are a chosen people. You are royal priests, a holy nation, God's very own possession. As a result, you can show others the goodness of God, for he called you out of the darkness into his wonderful light.

The gospel will be preached to every nation, kindred, tongue, and people, Rev. 14:6–7

rev 5:9 And they sang a new song: "You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.

Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."


Heb 12: 22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the judge of all men, to the spirits of righteous men made perfect, 24to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
 
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You don't even know what Grace is, nor have you received it, Your still trying to earn it. You can't lose something you never had!


So you TOO know what has been given to me?

Was not grace given to ALL mankind by Jesus Christ? As if we had a choice to reject it?

The problem is that you do not know what grace is! For if you did you would not have made the commit you made?

Boy readers...we sure have some people here!


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Boy readers...we sure have some people here!


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We sure do. How anyone who believes a Christian:

has a righteousness of law keeping

Must be circumcised

Must obey all of the Mosaic law(Bar burnt offerings)

Can quote the Aposotle Paul with those beliefs is beyond me

But:

Wisdom is always proved right by its inconsistencies.
 

zone

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So you TOO know what has been given to me?

Was not grace given to ALL mankind by Jesus Christ? As if we had a choice to reject it?

The problem is that you do not know what grace is! For if you did you would not have made the commit you made?

Boy readers...we sure have some people here!
give it up.
you're in trouble.
admit it and repent.
confess it - ask Jesus for forgiveness....i would do it without delay.

Galatians 5
Christ Has Set Us Free
1For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

2Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. 3I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. 4You are severed from Christ, you who would be justifieda by the law; you have fallen away from grace. 5For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.

7You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8This persuasion is not from him who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. 10I have confidence in the Lord that you will take no other view than mine, and the one who is troubling you will bear the penalty, whoever he is. 11But if I, brothers,b still preachc circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed. 12I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!
 
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So tell us....just what time will it be when ALL nations will worship the Lord? It will happen when Jesus rules here on earth for 1000 years! That happens upon His return.


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Forgot something 1 Cor 15 says He will return and deliver the Kingdom up to God.
 
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So you TOO know what has been given to me?


Yes I do by the gospel (or should I say false gospel) you are placing your faith in.


Was not grace given to ALL mankind by Jesus Christ? As if we had a choice to reject it?

All mankind will not be saved. Thus your argument is negated by your inability to realize that grace is offered. but not assured,
The problem is that you do not know what grace is! For if you did you would not have made the commit you made?


Grace is unearned. Your trying to earn it by your works. Thus your are the one who does not understand grace my friend.


Boy readers...we sure have some people here!


Yep, what we have is a man who does not understand he is trying to earn the grace of God. when it can not be earned, it can only be received by faith in God. So why are you trying to earn a gift?

As I said, I can not believe people are still talking to you. maybe they are bored?