Is it a heresy to correct the Greek with the English? Video Response by Peter Ruckman

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You are going at it backwards. You damaged your standard. Its worthless now. This is how JW, Mormonism,
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You took it upon yourself to take stuff out of the Bible and plug stuff in. You think you are doing right. Everyone
in the apostasy "THINKS" what he/she is doing is right. They aren't relying on the standard (Bible) to keep their minds
calibrated. They either altered the Bible or created a new one that fit their uncalibrated minds.

Say, you get a Bible with all your desired changes and told "something else isn't right?" You'll make the changes as before.
Your mind is going to get further and further out of calibration. I'm not trying to argue doctrine with you, but to show
you the spiritually destructive mindset that you are operating with. Everyone in the apostasy thinks GOD TOLD THEM.
You have the same opinion. I tell you this cause I don't want to see you get too far off the path.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

yes it is heresy to claim that a human made translation is superior to God's original revelation...-nothing- is superior to God's word...especially not any human works...

it is heresy and a work of a false prophet to claim that God's original revelation had flaws and that you have a new and better 'advanced revelation'...

it is also wicked to take God's name in vain as ruckman did twice in this video...
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Well Rachel, nothing is superior to God's word, which is the King James Holy Bible. The King James Bible is supernatural. It is a supernatural Book. And if you don't believe that, look up the King James Code by Pastor Mike Hoggard and see what the Holy Ghost revealed to Pastor Mike in regard to the Authorized Version. There is a numerical code system all through out the King James Bible. That alone should tell you that the King James Bible is not an ordinary book, but that it is the perfect and inspired word of God.

Rachel, it seems that you continue to misunderstand what Peter Ruckman's stance is in regard to verbal inspiration of the Holy Scriptures. Peter Ruckman never claimed that the original Hebrew and Greek autographs had flaws. Now what he does rightfully claim is that no one has ever seen an original autograph a day in their life! And he is absolutely correct. In fact, no one in the last 2,000 years has ever seen the original Greek or Hebrew autographs. The original autographs vanished away a long, long time ago. And what Peter Ruckman also claims is that the King James Bible is superior to the Originals. And he is right about that.

He also mentions that 2 Timothy 3:16 is not in reference to the original autographs. And again, he is absolutely right when he says that. Because if you read the verse right before it (2 Timothy 3:15) You will see that Timothy did not possess the original autographs. What Timothy had in his possession was a translation and a copy of the Holy Scriptures.

So whether you or any other Alexandrian likes it or not. The King James Bible is superior to the Original Autographs. The King James Bible has numbered verses. The Original Autographs did not.

And of course to re emphasize the reasons that Peter Ruckman gave in the video. I am going to list the four reasons he gave of why the King James Bible is superior to the Originals. You see I have to write them down here because most modern day Christians won't take at least 7 minutes of their time to watch a video to see whether or not what the man is saying and teaching is so. And these same modern professing Christians think that just because they have been "educated" in some university, they think that makes them qualified to sit in judgment over the word of God. Which means these "professing" Christians who deny the perfection of the King James Bible, think they are so smart, that they can correct God and that they can correct what He said. Let me you proud and arrogant stuffed shirts something, you do not correct God's word, you let God's word correct YOU.

And the reason why most of you Bible agnostics don't believe that any translation is perfect, is because you simply refuse to submit to a Final Authority. Well whether you like it or not, the King James Bible is the Final Authority. And it is God's perfect word.

Now here are the main reasons Peter Ruckman outlined in the video of why the King James Bible is superior to the Original Autographs:

*We can read the King James Bible. We cannot read the originals because we do not have the originals.

*You can teach and memorize the King James Bible, but you cannot teach nor can you memorize the originals. Again, this is due since we do not have the originals. Just as Peter Ruckman correctly pointed out.

*The King James Bible has separation between words and sentences. The Originals did not.

*More souls have been saved by the preaching of the King James Bible in the last 402 years than all the Original Autographs combined.

*And finally, the King James Bible is superior to the Greek simply because English is the Universal Langauge of the End Times. Greek has been a dead language for more than 1700 years.

And of course Peter Ruckman also points out the hypocrisy of the Alexandrians when he shows that they left out the Apocrypha from the Siniaticus greek text when they printed and published it. See, if they really believed that you cannot correct "the Greek" with the English, then they would have left the Apocrypha in the Siniaticus greek text. You see how fickle you Alexandrians are?

So you are clearly wrong Rachel. And your reasoning is just illogical and way off. And the reason you are so against Dr. Peter Ruckman is because when he exposes the hypocrisy of the Alexandrians and Greek professors out there who deny the perfection of the Authorized Version, he is also exposing your hypocrisy. Just face up to it. You cannot handle the information that Dr. Ruckman has given over the many years of the ministry which the Lord has given him.

Most Bible agnostics cannot handle the information given by Dr. Peter Ruckman and because of that, they have to resort to name calling. They call us King James Bible believers the following names: "Ruckmanite," "Church Splitter," "Divisive," "Biblicist," "Bible Worshipper," etc. They will call anyone who believes that the King James Bible is perfect a ruckmanite. Even though that Christian they are calling a Ruckmanite may have never heard of Dr. Ruckman in his life.

Peter Ruckman has done many good works for the Lord. Only the Judgment Seat of Christ will tell in that day how much this man of God has done for the Lord.

 

[JaumeJ]

Now you are appraising my mind rather than answering to what was actually posted. This makes you a judge of me. Who mad you a judge of another's servant? I do not nor am I allowed to judge you.

 

[SarahM777]

And the reason why most of you Bible agnostics don't believe that any translation is perfect, is because you simply refuse to submit to a Final Authority. Well whether you like it or not, the King James Bible is the Final Authority. And it is God's perfect word.

This is where some of us disagree,the final authority is not in the what but it the who. It's not the book itself but it's who is standing behind it and has all authority. All authority has been given to Jesus by the Father. The book itself has no meaning unless there is someone who has the authority to back it up.

 

[Tintin]

Oh, boy. This thread has some hilariously strange posts.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Well Rachel, nothing is superior to God's word, which is the King James Holy Bible. The King James Bible is supernatural. It is a supernatural Book. And if you don't believe that, look up the King James Code by Pastor Mike Hoggard and see what the Holy Ghost revealed to Pastor Mike in regard to the Authorized Version. There is a numerical code system all through out the King James Bible. That alone should tell you that the King James Bible is not an ordinary book, but that it is the perfect and inspired word of God.

Rachel, it seems that you continue to misunderstand what Peter Ruckman's stance is in regard to verbal inspiration of the Holy Scriptures. Peter Ruckman never claimed that the original Hebrew and Greek autographs had flaws. Now what he does rightfully claim is that no one has ever seen an original autograph a day in their life! And he is absolutely correct. In fact, no one in the last 2,000 years has ever seen the original Greek or Hebrew autographs. The original autographs vanished away a long, long time ago. And what Peter Ruckman also claims is that the King James Bible is superior to the Originals. And he is right about that.

He also mentions that 2 Timothy 3:16 is not in reference to the original autographs. And again, he is absolutely right when he says that. Because if you read the verse right before it (2 Timothy 3:15) You will see that Timothy did not possess the original autographs. What Timothy had in his possession was a translation and a copy of the Holy Scriptures.

So whether you or any other Alexandrian likes it or not. The King James Bible is superior to the Original Autographs. The King James Bible has numbered verses. The Original Autographs did not.

And of course to re emphasize the reasons that Peter Ruckman gave in the video. I am going to list the four reasons he gave of why the King James Bible is superior to the Originals. You see I have to write them down here because most modern day Christians won't take at least 7 minutes of their time to watch a video to see whether or not what the man is saying and teaching is so. And these same modern professing Christians think that just because they have been "educated" in some university, they think that makes them qualified to sit in judgment over the word of God. Which means these "professing" Christians who deny the perfection of the King James Bible, think they are so smart, that they can correct God and that they can correct what He said. Let me you proud and arrogant stuffed shirts something, you do not correct God's word, you let God's word correct YOU.

And the reason why most of you Bible agnostics don't believe that any translation is perfect, is because you simply refuse to submit to a Final Authority. Well whether you like it or not, the King James Bible is the Final Authority. And it is God's perfect word.

Now here are the main reasons Peter Ruckman outlined in the video of why the King James Bible is superior to the Original Autographs:

*We can read the King James Bible. We cannot read the originals because we do not have the originals.

*You can teach and memorize the King James Bible, but you cannot teach nor can you memorize the originals. Again, this is due since we do not have the originals. Just as Peter Ruckman correctly pointed out.

*The King James Bible has separation between words and sentences. The Originals did not.

*More souls have been saved by the preaching of the King James Bible in the last 402 years than all the Original Autographs combined.

*And finally, the King James Bible is superior to the Greek simply because English is the Universal Langauge of the End Times. Greek has been a dead language for more than 1700 years.

And of course Peter Ruckman also points out the hypocrisy of the Alexandrians when he shows that they left out the Apocrypha from the Siniaticus greek text when they printed and published it. See, if they really believed that you cannot correct "the Greek" with the English, then they would have left the Apocrypha in the Siniaticus greek text. You see how fickle you Alexandrians are?

So you are clearly wrong Rachel. And your reasoning is just illogical and way off. And the reason you are so against Dr. Peter Ruckman is because when he exposes the hypocrisy of the Alexandrians and Greek professors out there who deny the perfection of the Authorized Version, he is also exposing your hypocrisy. Just face up to it. You cannot handle the information that Dr. Ruckman has given over the many years of the ministry which the Lord has given him.

Most Bible agnostics cannot handle the information given by Dr. Peter Ruckman and because of that, they have to resort to name calling. They call us King James Bible believers the following names: "Ruckmanite," "Church Splitter," "Divisive," "Biblicist," "Bible Worshipper," etc. They will call anyone who believes that the King James Bible is perfect a ruckmanite. Even though that Christian they are calling a Ruckmanite may have never heard of Dr. Ruckman in his life.

Peter Ruckman has done many good works for the Lord. Only the Judgment Seat of Christ will tell in that day how much this man of God has done for the Lord.

repeating the heresy does not make it any less heretical...

 

[heirofChrist]

I havent watched the video. But i believe as long as the language continues changing over time So should the language of the Bible. Still keep it in context but if i only had the KJV bible salvation would probably be outta my reach because it is too ancient for me. I dont mean what is said in the bible should be changed but just the wording as time progresses

 

[Tintin]

Exactly, it's God's Word (the message) that shouldn't be changed but the presentation (writing style) should be changed over time. It's not perverting God's Word, it's the evolution of the written word. I think KJV-onlyists are spiritually proud people who try to exclude others by seeming more holy because they can read old school English that was out-date even when it was written. I'm sorry, but NO! God's Word is meant to be able to be read by the average person on the street. Otherwise, it's purely for intellectual types and people who understand Shakespeare!

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Exactly, it's God's Word (the message) that shouldn't be changed but the presentation (writing style) should be changed over time. It's not perverting God's Word, it's the evolution of the written word. I think KJV-onlyists are spiritually proud people who try to exclude others by seeming more holy because they can read old school English that was out-date even when it was written. I'm sorry, but NO! God's Word is meant to be able to be read by the average person on the street. Otherwise, it's purely for intellectual types and people who understand Shakespeare!

half of the people who claim to understand king james english don't even really understand it...which is where a lot of doctrinal misconceptions come from...

 

[ChosenbyHim]

repeating the heresy does not make it any less heretical...

I repeated the truths which Peter Ruckman stated in the video so that anyone in here who did not watch the video would have no excuse for being ignorant about this issue.

What Peter Ruckman taught and stated in that video is not heretical at all. Do you want to know what is truly heretical? The very idea that only the "Originals" were inspired. Now that is heresy! The heresy that only the "Original Authogrpahs" were inspired and perfect is so illogical that one who supports the idea has to actually side with the atheists, Muslims, and other Bible rejectors in their reasoning.

Peter Ruckman does a good job of exposing you Alexandrians and you Bible correctors who believe your so smart that you think that you can actually correct God's word. You better wise up Rachel and convert to the King James Bible. Before you lose all of your reasoning. There is a saying that goes like this: "If you mess with the Book, God will mess with your mind."

And that is very evident once you start listening to the faulty and loopy logic and double speak of the Alexandrians and Bible correctors of today like James White and Bart Ehrman, Greg Settle, robycop3, and Fred Butler.

Do yourself a favor Rachel, and don't lose your mind and your sanity. Forsake and leave the Alexandrian thought process behind and convert wholly to God's perfect and infallible word, which is the King James Holy Bible. You have no excuse for your error. If you really do know the Bible Version Issue, and know about the discrepancies between all the 150+ English translations on the market today and how they attack the doctrines of the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ and of Salvation, they you have no excuse for supporting such wicked and satanic bible perversions out there like the NIV, ESV, NLT, and the rest of the others. You have a choice. You better make the right one and get on the Lord's side.

Anyone who defends the new versions and attacks God's true word, the King James Bible. That same person is working for Satan. Remember what Satan told Eve back in Genesis 3:1. The first recorded words of Satan in the Holy Scriptures is him questioning God's word and casting doubt upon it. Think about it Rachel.

 

[Tintin]

Again, the message is most important and can't be changed, the method (presentation) isn't as important and can be changed. Goodbye, crazy person.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

half of the people who claim to understand king james english don't even really understand it...which is where a lot of doctrinal misconceptions come from...

How would even know that? Can you read their thoughts and their minds?

If you are a saved man or women and you have the Holy Spirit in you and you ask Him for guidance and help then He will open your understanding of the King James Bible. Just read Mike Hoggard's Testimony! And read the king James Code.

Now on the other hand, lost people can't understand God's word.

11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. - 1 Corinthians 2:11-16 (KJB)

So before you read the Holy Bible and expect to be able to understand it, make sure your actually saved first.

The reason why most lost, hell bound sinners say that they can understand the NIV, ESV, and NLT is because those are man made books. The NIV, ESV, and NLT are dead books. They are not God's word.

The Authorized Version is God's word.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

Again, the message is most important and can't be changed, the method (presentation) isn't as important and can be changed. Goodbye, crazy person.

That's the thing though Tintin, the message is changed in the new versions. It is diluted, mixed with new age terminology, and is corrupted. If you change one word, even just one word in the Holy Bible, it can change vital doctrines. In fact, a lot of the new versions say that Jesus lied in John 7:8. Take a look:

Correct reading:

Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come. - (King James Bible)

Wrong and false readings:

You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come. - (NIV)

You go on. I'm not going to this festival, because my time has not yet come. - (NLT)

You go up to the feast. I am not going up to this feast, for my time has not yet fully come. - (ESV)

Go up to the feast yourselves; I do not go up to this feast because My time has not yet fully come. - (NASB)

Do you see what a difference one little word can make? The word "Yet" is removed from those 4 modern translations in John 7:8, making and turning Jesus into a liar. And you guys actually still think that these modern versions are God's word?

They are not. The new bible versions are not of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not inspire error. The Holy Spirit inspires perfection, purity, and 100% truth.

The correct reading of John 7:8 is in the King James Bible. Again, this is the right reading:

Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come. - John 7:8 (King James Holy Bible)

 

[ChosenbyHim]

This is where some of us disagree,the final authority is not in the what but it the who. It's not the book itself but it's who is standing behind it and has all authority. All authority has been given to Jesus by the Father. The book itself has no meaning unless there is someone who has the authority to back it up.

All authority has been given to Jesus Christ. Amen.

But did you know that Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible are inseparable. Did you know that one of the Lord's names is the Word of God?

And another name for the Lord Jesus and God the Father is Every word of God is pure:

Here is Scriptural proof. I am going to back up what I am saying with the Scriptures:

1The words of Agur the son of Jakeh, even the prophecy: the man spake unto Ithiel, even unto Ithiel and Ucal,

2Surely I am more brutish than any man, and have not the understanding of a man.

3I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.

4Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. - Proverbs 30:1-6 (King James Bible)


So the Final Authority is God and His word, which is the King James Bible. And to also show you how much God values His word, I want to give you another verse of Scripture so that you can see from the Scriptures just how much God honours and values His holy word.

I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.- Psalm 138:2 (Holy Bible)

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