Domenic: This is what I believe about the tree in the garden.

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We have a Fellow Christian asking for help, and you childern are stepping on her needs with you stupid rabbit signes, and stupid nasty remarks...please take your disrespect outside.
 
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I bring this thread to the forefront to feed the pack of foolish who follow me, and churn Gods truth into laughter, and walk on the blood of our Lord Jesus. Come, drink, sing the song of fools, and temp Gods anger.
 
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so you believe that the tree is symbolic and refers to sex because tree's bear fruit? I dont think I am following you to well on this
 
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so you believe that the tree is symbolic and refers to sex because tree's bear fruit? I dont think I am following you to well on this
Genesis 3: 15 God is condemning Satan. God does not use symbolic talk when h is condemning anybody. In Genesis 3” 15 God talks about Satan’s seed, and the seed of Jesus. Satan is an angel. Angels do not have seed. Think about this…to have seed Satan would have had to be human, or animal. God told the angels to serve man. They refused. God will always force his will on those who refuse, and punish at the same time. God cast those angels who revolted down to earth in a form lower than man, and above the animals. Angels in this form had seed that could mix with human. God warned Adam not to take of that tree (The animal tree), but only of the human tree. Satan had sex with Eve to destroy the Human relationship with God, so the angels would not have to serve man…

We all have a family tree. We a have a racial tree. We are part of the human family tree.
Animals are of the animal tree.
Trees are used throughout the scriptures in only a symbolic way.
The tree in the Garden was only symbolic.
 

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Genesis 3: 15 God is condemning Satan. God does not use symbolic talk when h is condemning anybody. In Genesis 3” 15 God talks about Satan’s seed, and the seed of Jesus. Satan is an angel. Angels do not have seed. Think about this…to have seed Satan would have had to be human, or animal. God told the angels to serve man. They refused. God will always force his will on those who refuse, and punish at the same time. God cast those angels who revolted down to earth in a form lower than man, and above the animals. Angels in this form had seed that could mix with human. God warned Adam not to take of that tree (The animal tree), but only of the human tree. Satan had sex with Eve to destroy the Human relationship with God, so the angels would not have to serve man…

We all have a family tree. We a have a racial tree. We are part of the human family tree.
Animals are of the animal tree.
Trees are used throughout the scriptures in only a symbolic way.
The tree in the Garden was only symbolic.
1. The mind is a fertile place and is where the seeds of our actions are first formed. H2233 (seed, zeh'-rah) is used figuratively.

2. The tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil are symbolic, as is the serpent that symbolizes our thoughts which are the seeds of our actions. In scripture our actions are our fruit, whether it be good or evil. Gen 3:18 speaks of thorns and thistles as the fruit of disobedience to God.

We are forbidden to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil but the tree of life which is God eternal should be at the center of our thoughts and mind. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above (James 1:17) while our evil satanic thoughts (seeds) are of the earth to which satan is brought down.

Lamentations 3:41 exhorts us to "lift up our hearts and our hands to God in heaven"

Psalm 24:9 "Lift up your heads, you gates; lift them up, you ancient doors, that the King of glory may come in."

Luke 21:28 "lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

Adam and Eve had the choice and I am sure that many of us here have chosen to lift up our hearts to the Lord.

May God bless.
 
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Genesis 3: 15 God is condemning Satan. God does not use symbolic talk when h is condemning anybody. In Genesis 3” 15 God talks about Satan’s seed, and the seed of Jesus. Satan is an angel. Angels do not have seed. Think about this…to have seed Satan would have had to be human, or animal. God told the angels to serve man. They refused. God will always force his will on those who refuse, and punish at the same time. God cast those angels who revolted down to earth in a form lower than man, and above the animals. Angels in this form had seed that could mix with human. God warned Adam not to take of that tree (The animal tree), but only of the human tree. Satan had sex with Eve to destroy the Human relationship with God, so the angels would not have to serve man…

We all have a family tree. We a have a racial tree. We are part of the human family tree.
Animals are of the animal tree.
Trees are used throughout the scriptures in only a symbolic way.
The tree in the Garden was only symbolic.
If that is the case then why is it considered to be the sin of Adam and not the sin of eve?
 
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Does it matter? We are in a fallen state no matter how/ why it happened, and we can only be save by Christ's blood.
I don't think I'm smart enough to figure out much more than that, nor do I think I need to.
 
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Genesis 3: 15 God is condemning Satan. God does not use symbolic talk when h is condemning anybody. In Genesis 3” 15 God talks about Satan’s seed, and the seed of Jesus. Satan is an angel. Angels do not have seed. Think about this…to have seed Satan would have had to be human, or animal. God told the angels to serve man. They refused. God will always force his will on those who refuse, and punish at the same time. God cast those angels who revolted down to earth in a form lower than man, and above the animals. Angels in this form had seed that could mix with human. God warned Adam not to take of that tree (The animal tree), but only of the human tree. Satan had sex with Eve to destroy the Human relationship with God, so the angels would not have to serve man…

We all have a family tree. We a have a racial tree. We are part of the human family tree.
Animals are of the animal tree.
Trees are used throughout the scriptures in only a symbolic way.
The tree in the Garden was only symbolic.
Angels are spirit. They have no seed. It is the serpent who had sex with Eve because only the blood of the serpent is compatible with humans.The serpent was a very intelligent guy and he was a preacher. satan incarnated the serpent because he was jealous of Adam and he used the serpent to push Eve to commit adultery with the serpent.
 
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Angels are spirit. They have no seed. It is the serpent who had sex with Eve because only the blood of the serpent is compatible with humans.The serpent was a very intelligent guy and he was a preacher. satan incarnated the serpent because he was jealous of Adam and he used the serpent to push Eve to commit adultery with the serpent.

Would you PLEASE show me this in the scriptures and tell me who taught you eve had sex with nachash
 
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crosspreacher

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Genesis 3vs 1, He preached unto EVE.
GENESIS 3 VS 13. Eve replied that she was deceived by the serpent. Which means that she had sexual intercourse with him.
 
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... that doesn't even make sense, there isn't even a logical basis for that... a snake doesn't even have a penis
 
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If that is the case then why is it considered to be the sin of Adam and not the sin of eve?
It was a sin of both Adam and Eve. Satan attacked first the weaker vessel, Eve...who then Got Adam to do the same. There was no snake in the Garden. The Serpent was an upright creature. God put it on its belly like that of a snake.
 
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It was a sin of both Adam and Eve. Satan attacked first the weaker vessel, Eve...who then Got Adam to do the same. There was no snake in the Garden. The Serpent was an upright creature. God put it on its belly like that of a snake.
so are you saying that adam then had sex with the serpent?
 
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Angels are spirit. They have no seed. It is the serpent who had sex with Eve because only the blood of the serpent is compatible with humans.The serpent was a very intelligent guy and he was a preacher. satan incarnated the serpent because he was jealous of Adam and he used the serpent to push Eve to commit adultery with the serpent.
You are correct brother...angels have no seed. God talks about Satans seed...he must have become something other than an angel to have seed...Good thinking brother.
 
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You are correct brother...angels have no seed. God talks about Satans seed...he must have become something other than an angel to have seed...Good thinking brother.
But Satan is still a spiritual creature? do Spiritual creatures have what you call a seed? just what exactly is a seed?
 
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so are you saying that adam then had sex with the serpent?
I am saying, Adam had sex with an angel that had been cast down, and who God had turned into an animal type creature to serve man. Please read the O.P (Opening Post.)
 
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dam had sex with an

I am saying, Adam had sex with an angel that had been cast down, and who God had turned into an animal type creature to serve man. Please read the O.P (Opening Post.)
I did but you were being a little flowery. ok so eve was seduced by satan who then convinced Adam to have sex with satan and that's how man fell into a broken relationship is this basically what you are saying?
 
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... that doesn't even make sense, there isn't even a logical basis for that... a snake doesn't even have a penis
Not a snake but the serpent. He was an animal which looked as much beautiful as the man and his resemblance was totally like him, and he deceived EVE.
This is why God made him to crawl on his belly like a snake. God judged the serpent.
 
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Not a snake but the serpent. He was an animal which looked as much beautiful as the man and his resemblance was totally like him, and he deceived EVE.
This is why God made him to crawl on his belly like a snake. God judged the serpent.
the hebrew word means snake though...
 
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Not a snake but the serpent. He was an animal which looked as much beautiful as the man and his resemblance was totally like him, and he deceived EVE.
This is why God made him to crawl on his belly like a snake. God judged the serpent.
Yes. And that is why we die, because animals have always died, and because animal seed was mixed with human...we die.
God called satan a murderer, because he murdered the then un-born human race.