Domenic: This is what I believe about the tree in the garden.

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Yes. And that is why we die, because animals have always died, and because animal seed was mixed with human...we die.
God called satan a murderer, because he murdered the then un-born human race.
I thought animals died because sin entered the world and corrupted it...
 
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I agree. Tell me, when did man start calling the snake, a snake? Did that snake creature in Adams time have a different name?
maybe but a snake is a snake no matter what you call it. I mean I could call a rose a tulip but that doesn't change it's essence
 
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maybe but a snake is a snake no matter what you call it. I mean I could call a rose a tulip but that doesn't change it's essence
When God cast those angels who refused to serve man down, why would he make them into creatures without arms and legs serving man? Does that make sense
 
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Don't ask anybody to reason things out for you. Take the time, and reason them out...get the brain working.
 
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When God cast those angels who refused to serve man down, why would he make them into creatures without arms and legs serving man? Does that make sense
He didn't make them into anything to serve mankind, they rebelled and some were thrown into tartarus and some are the demons we know and love today. They were never changed into anything to serve mankind.
 
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He didn't make them into anything to serve mankind, they rebelled and some were thrown into tartarus and some are the demons we know and love today. They were never changed into anything to serve mankind.
You love demons?
 
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Double post...sorry
 
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The hiss of the serpent was demonic and from all that you say you seem quite enchanted by the thought of Eve having sex with the hiss of a snake.

H5175
נחשׁ
nâchâsh
naw-khawsh'
From H5172; a snake (from its hiss): - serpent.
 
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The hiss of the serpent was demonic and from all that you say you seem quite enchanted by the thought of Eve having sex with the hiss of a snake.

H5175
נחשׁ
nâchâsh
naw-khawsh'
From H5172; a snake (from its hiss): - serpent.
I always listen to others. I'm not a rude person. I figure if I want others to listen to what I think, it is adult to listen to what they also think.
I'm all ears. Tell me please, what do you think Genesis 3:15 is saying?
 

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I always listen to others. I'm not a rude person. I figure if I want others to listen to what I think, it is adult to listen to what they also think.
I'm all ears. Tell me please, what do you think Genesis 3:15 is saying?
Not only did the Israelites worship man-made gods and idols they were also into witchcraft and what we would call today spiritualism. The whisper of the snake or its 'hiss' from H5172 can be seen in context below and in my previous post I likened the snake to the evil thoughts that enter our mind and tempt us. Jesus commanded the tempter to "Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." Eve should have said the same when she was tempted.

Lev 19:26 Ye shall not eat [any thing] with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment,H5172 nor observe times.

Deut 18:10 There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter,H5172 or a witch,

2Kgs 17:17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire (human sacrifice), and used divination and enchantments,H5172 and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

2Kgs 21:6 And he made his son pass through the fire, and observed times, and used enchantments, H5172 and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards: he wrought much wickedness in the sight of the LORD, to provoke [him] to anger.
 
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Not only did the Israelites worship man-made gods and idols they were also into witchcraft and what we would call today spiritualism. The whisper of the snake or its 'hiss' from H5172 can be seen in context below and in my previous post I likened the snake to the evil thoughts that enter our mind and tempt us. Jesus commanded the tempter to "Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." Eve should have said the same when she was tempted.

Lev 19:26 Ye shall not eat [any thing] with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment,H5172 nor observe times.

Deut 18:10 There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter,H5172 or a witch,

2Kgs 17:17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire (human sacrifice), and used divination and enchantments,H5172 and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

2Kgs 21:6 And he made his son pass through the fire, and observed times, and used enchantments, H5172 and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards: he wrought much wickedness in the sight of the LORD, to provoke [him] to anger.
Thank you for this. But, how does it explain Genesis to you? That was the question.
 
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because I'm a sarcastic person but please stop trying to use a red herring and focus on what I'm saying
I listen to everything you say...I just don't know when you mean what you say, or say what you mean. You have to understand. I'm an old man, and old men are fools. We believe everything people tell us...Heck, I wasn;t smart when I was your age, so I'm in doublw trouble here. Get my drift kid? Don't wast your time, and mine saying things you don't mean.
Now let me ask you a question. How much do you know about the Bible? Have you read all of it? or are you lazy, and just want to sit back and have me tell you about the whole thing?
 
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I listen to everything you say...I just don't know when you mean what you say, or say what you mean. You have to understand. I'm an old man, and old men are fools. We believe everything people tell us...Heck, I wasn;t smart when I was your age, so I'm in doublw trouble here. Get my drift kid? Don't wast your time, and mine saying things you don't mean.
Now let me ask you a question. How much do you know about the Bible? Have you read all of it? or are you lazy, and just want to sit back and have me tell you about the whole thing?
Everything except lamentations and ezekiel. now please go back to the issue at hand. If I wanted someone to tell me about the whole thing I'd do it while getting my masters degree. now lets get back to the issue at hand. Age doesn't have anything to do with lack of intelligence or a surplus of the same. but please lets get back to what I originally said "He didn't make them into anything to serve mankind, they rebelled and some were thrown into tartarus and some are the demons we know and love today. They were never changed into anything to serve mankind."
 
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Everything except lamentations and ezekiel. now please go back to the issue at hand. If I wanted someone to tell me about the whole thing I'd do it while getting my masters degree. now lets get back to the issue at hand. Age doesn't have anything to do with lack of intelligence or a surplus of the same. but please lets get back to what I originally said "He didn't make them into anything to serve mankind, they rebelled and some were thrown into tartarus and some are the demons we know and love today. They were never changed into anything to serve mankind."
That is not a question. That is a statment. So prove your ststment.
 
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That is not a question. That is a statment. So prove your ststment.
the burden of proof falls onto you to disprove it since you claimed that satan and the fallen angels were changed into servants of mankind
 
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the burden of proof falls onto you to disprove it since you claimed that satan and the fallen angels were changed into servants of mankind
If you read the OP, you will see why I stated what I did. Your little theory is your's. Prove your own theory...your a smart boy. Or do you have to wait until you get your masters?