Is there Christian persecution in India?

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Lanolin

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"The Least of these, The Graham Staines Story"

This is the movie name, i watched it
What did you think? He wasnt converting people he was just showing them Gods love. Anyway how could christians forcibly convert anyone anyway. When you hear the gospel, it must be your choice to believe or not, there is no pressure.

Seems to be a trumped up charge and maybe the hindus resented the christian converts. In the NT there were riots in ephesus cos the converts werent buying idols anymore and the craftsmen were losing business.
 

levi85

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What did you think? He wasnt converting people he was just showing them Gods love. Anyway how could christians forcibly convert anyone anyway. When you hear the gospel, it must be your choice to believe or not, there is no pressure.

Seems to be a trumped up charge and maybe the hindus resented the christian converts. In the NT there were riots in ephesus cos the converts werent buying idols anymore and the craftsmen were losing business.

According to unbelievers he was converting but as a believer I should say he was living gospel sharing God's love and Gospel to the lepers and others
 

Glory789

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Well of course we face persecutions here our churches are getting burned people are getting murdered u may check the news too if u what to know more
 
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I. I've been in ministry since 2014 with my church/denomination. I am an Indian. The following is my observation. The answer to the question is a complicated yes. And we need other Christians' prayers, we also pray for them.

Yes, there is persecution of many Christians in India. There are reports of organizations that we can trust. But from my experience, it is not as straight forward as some would think.

II. I met the son of a pastor who was arrested after a complaint was made against him. The son told me that the father prayer for a person who was sick. One of that person's family member made a complaint to the police. The pastor has been in jail for one year when I had a conversation with his son. It has been three years since that conversation with the pastor's son. I have been reflecting upon this question and upon that conversation, following are some questions and even an update.

A. What section or sections of the Indian law was invoked when the complaint was made against that pastor, and when the arrest was made?

B. Update: The last I heard of this situation was that a group of lawyers have been working on this particular case.

C. What was the content of the original conversation between the pastor and the person before the prayer was made? Was there a promise of healing? Was healing implied? From my conversation with the son, I concluded, that they may have been from a Charismatic/Pentecostal/Word of Faith persuasion (very popular in India). If my conclusion is right then healing would have been implied if not promised. If healing did not happen the family member would naturally defend his/her family.

D. If the pastor's conversation with the sick person was something normal (even if the pastor was from a Charismatic/Pentecostal/Word of Faith persuasion) and no healing was implied/promised then this is a case of straightforward abuse of the law to persecute an innocent person based upon their religious belief and practices.

E. From my conversation with the son and others like him I would conclude that we in India need a lot of Biblical and Theological training. Which is unfortunately not encouraged. I have met pastors and leaders who have said to me that a seminary education is a waste of time while people are hurting and without the Gospel OR Jesus will come back and find us not working but still studying.

III. During the pandemic lockdown last year a list circulated on WhatsApp about some persecuted Indian Christians. The list contained names and incidents of both persecuted and persecutor. I messaged the organization that produced the list. I asked them if the list was there's and if everything on it was true. Someone from that organization messaged me back on WhatsApp and told me that the list belonged to them and that everything on it was true. (For personal security/identity reasons I have since deleted my WhatsApp account.)

A. I asked for proofs from them. To which they asked me for my identity. I, foolishly or not, gave them my full name, designation and the state/region I was from. But they did not give me any proof at all. They went quiet after they got my information.

B. I did my own investigation and did not find the list on the organization's website. I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I searched on other persecution websites and did not find the same reports. Please, keep in mind that I have not exhausted all avenues to prove or disprove the list.

C. In my search, I focused on one particular point on the list that mentioned a persecutor's name who used social media to speak against Christians. But I did not find the person's social media account anywhere. The person did not even point me to the right website/app.

D. Of course, I prayed for the persecuted on that list. But I am left with so many questions: Am I praying for real people? Why would proofs not be given?

IV. On direct persecution. I have personally pastored and catered to those who were persecuted by their own family members because of their decision for Christ. We have helped them as best we can. Some of them have backslid because of the intense persecution. But we are glad that few have really committed to being with the Lord. We need your prayers. We don't need your money.

V. On the government and the ruling party. India is a democratic country. In India, we have laws to protect religious minorities like Christians, Muslims, etc. We also have laws to protect ethnic minorities. Yes, there is abuse, therefore there is persecution. Yes, the current ruling party is right-leaning. But I have faith in God and I trust my fellow Indian citizens to stand up for the Constitution and for the rule of law. And I also request my fellow Christians in India to live a Christ-like life. There are groups in India that are dedicated to counter Christian beliefs from an intellectual point of view, just like elsewhere in the world. There are groups in India that are dedicated to track and hurt Christians, just like elsewhere in the world. We, Indian Christians, should not be surprised or afraid. Persecution and suffering are expected and taught in the Bible. We love our enemies as taught by the Saviour himself.

VI. I want to share a lot more but they are not relevant to the question above. They are relevant to Word of Faith, New Apostolic Reformation, Anti-Intellectualism and other related topics that may or may not be directly related to the persecution of Christians in India. Read 1 Peter 3:13-17 (If we are persecuted, let us be persecuted for the good/right reasons, not for the pride, lust, ignorance and greed that I see in some of these extremely erroneous groups).

May God have mercy on us all!
 

Mission21

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India
- On 'top 10 countries' listing (persecution)
Open Doors
www.opendoorsusa.org
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"Persecution in India has increased significantly over the past five years.."
- From Open Doors
 

levi85

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India
- On 'top 10 countries' listing (persecution)
Open Doors
www.opendoorsusa.org
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"Persecution in India has increased significantly over the past five years.."
- From Open Doors
Our present Government is hard-core unbeliever, and hardcore unbelievers are working in ground level against believers
 
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Our present Government is hard-core unbeliever, and hardcore unbelievers are working in ground level against believers
What's the difference between "hardcore unbelievers" and "non-hardcore unbelievers"? :)
 

levi85

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What's the difference between "hardcore unbelievers" and "non-hardcore unbelievers"? :)

Hardcore means "the most active, committed, or strict members of a group or movement"
Sorry I donot know or have not used the word non-hardcore"
 

Mission21

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"The Pandemic has changed the Persecution dynamics".. in India.
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Many Christians experienced discrimination in government aid.
- Christians were often overlooked..when official Covid 19 food/ aid was distributed.
Some Christian leaders/workers were unable to even afford food..
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From 'Open Doors USA'
www.opendoorsusa.org