Arthritis

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Fenner

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I hope you all can help a middle aged woman out here. I am thinking I might have arthritis in my lower back and my ankle that I broke a few years ago. I'm unsure because I've never been diagnosed with any type of arthritis.

One side in my lower back has been hurting a lot since last Friday. I do occasionally see a chiropractor and I've gone to him before with this pain. I do get sciatic pain sometimes but this is different. It's just in one spot and it hurts and even burns sometimes. I'm using tens therapy on it and I've been doing some stretching.

Does this sound like arthritis?
 

Angela53510

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Me, me! Pick me!

First, self diagnosis or even worse, internet diagnosis is NOT the way to go. You need to see a real doctor, not a chiropractor and get some xrays. Osteoarthritis is very easy to diagnose, a simple xray can determine it. Then you have to figure out how to proceed with coping with the Arthritis.

That's right, despite that 95% of all people, mammals and invertebrates get osteoarthritis, there is not much you can do, except joint replacements, and they sometimes work and then other people get continuing pain and problems from them. Pain killers help block the pain, although many people swear by Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin. Glucosamine Sulfate actually can help a bit with osteo, but not Chondroitin, according to recent studies. I have taken Glucosamine Sulfate for years, not sure if it has helped or not!

I will say, the ankle you broke is likely osteoarthritis. Because osteo is a "wear and tear" disease. So any place you have hurt, at any time in your life, the osteophytes just move in their to shore it up, and get out of control, and voila! OA. And then, who hasn't hurt their back at sometime in their lives? None the less, only a doctor can diagnose and also suggest possible treatments.

I hope you get some answers.

PS. For anyone reading this - Rheumatoid Arthritis is not the same thing as osteoarthritis. RA is a systemic autoimmune disease, and osteoarthritis is a syndrome, that everyone gets! (Including those with RA, who get osteoarthritis in every joint the RA damaged! That is called secondary osteoarthritis!)
 

Fenner

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Thanks Angela, I figured I'd probably need an x ray to diagnose this. The orthopedic surgeon who screwed my ankle back in place told me I'd I have arthritis in it. I wish we came with easily replaceable parts.
 
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Pffft, now that Angela answered, I feel like my balloon petered out even before it rose. :(

Anywhooooo, was gonna also suggest that you go to a real doctor too. MY arthritis (OA) is the kind of achy I got the next day, after doing hard work the day before. Not sharp pain. (Hurts, but different kind of hurt.)

Why put up with the pain if it's not arthritis?


(Now, let me throw out my floppy balloon.)
 

Fenner

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You know it usually flares up when I have PMS. This did not happen when I was younger. I have to get to a doctor and get an X Ray. I guess I should start with my family doctor and she can lead me in the right direction. It wasn't bad today but now it hurts a lot. I have a feeling it's somehow linked to my cycle. I guess I should have put this in the ladies forum but I know men get arthritis too, so I didn't think about it at the time.
 
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when you happened to be 'rich', but were really 'poor', (in SPIRIT-HEALTH), when Jesus begins to call us,
something un-natural to the carnal-mind starts to happen, and then... YOU BEGIN TO LOVE-LIVE-HEAL,
when Jusus calls...
 
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Angela53510

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Arthritis knows no gender! So Fenner, my opinion is that you got the right forum.

Of course, if there are certain feminine things that trigger it, perhaps the Ladies Forum would be the best place! (I will say OA has weather triggers for some people, but I have not heard of hormonal triggers!)
 

maxwel

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Me, me! Pick me!

First, self diagnosis or even worse, internet diagnosis is NOT the way to go. You need to see a real doctor, not a chiropractor and get some xrays. Osteoarthritis is very easy to diagnose, a simple xray can determine it. Then you have to figure out how to proceed with coping with the Arthritis.

That's right, despite that 95% of all people, mammals and invertebrates get osteoarthritis, there is not much you can do, except joint replacements, and they sometimes work and then other people get continuing pain and problems from them. Pain killers help block the pain, although many people swear by Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin. Glucosamine Sulfate actually can help a bit with osteo, but not Chondroitin, according to recent studies. I have taken Glucosamine Sulfate for years, not sure if it has helped or not!

I will say, the ankle you broke is likely osteoarthritis. Because osteo is a "wear and tear" disease. So any place you have hurt, at any time in your life, the osteophytes just move in their to shore it up, and get out of control, and voila! OA. And then, who hasn't hurt their back at sometime in their lives? None the less, only a doctor can diagnose and also suggest possible treatments.

I hope you get some answers.

PS. For anyone reading this - Rheumatoid Arthritis is not the same thing as osteoarthritis. RA is a systemic autoimmune disease, and osteoarthritis is a syndrome, that everyone gets! (Including those with RA, who get osteoarthritis in every joint the RA damaged! That is called secondary osteoarthritis!)

She needs to see a "real" doctor?

So I guess my online degree in Eastern Metaphysical Aromatherapy & Green Chili Massage means nothing to you?


Aren't we elitist.
 
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GaryA

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Fenner,

When you say "lower back", do you mean "the lower half" or "as low as the hip"...?

If you go see a doctor, you might want to get them to check your ovaries and adrenal glands.

For what it is worth...

( Sorry this post is a bit late for the thread. I hope you have figured it out by now, and are "on the mend"... :D )

:)
 
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I hope you all can help a middle aged woman out here. I am thinking I might have arthritis in my lower back and my ankle that I broke a few years ago. I'm unsure because I've never been diagnosed with any type of arthritis.

One side in my lower back has been hurting a lot since last Friday. I do occasionally see a chiropractor and I've gone to him before with this pain. I do get sciatic pain sometimes but this is different. It's just in one spot and it hurts and even burns sometimes. I'm using tens therapy on it and I've been doing some stretching.

Does this sound like arthritis?
That does not sound like arthritis because it's only on one side. Arthritis is inflammation of a joint/s and the only joints in your back are along your spine which is of course in the center of your back. A pain on one side is most likely a sore or injured muscle but it can also be kidney related if it's up above the "love handles", but its probably just aching muscles. Do the stretches help? If they do, then its definitely the muscles. If TENS helps then its the muscles. Neither of those would help kidney pain...

Believe it or not, back problems and chronic back pain are often brought on by having weak abdominal muscles, and strengthening the abdomen can alleviate pain and end back problems. A weak core is the number one culprit. I myself am guilty of this and need to start doing situps. There are probably easier exercises available for the abs if situps are too difficult.
 

mar09

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Hi fenner,
I've been looking for threads on osteoporosis/arthritis and found yours. Also been reading an article and considering whats being said. You may want to have a look. We have some supplements sitting on the shelves i forget abt like flaxseed oil, vco, etc. and have to remind myself not to be complacent.

Note: 'we recommend you give them AT LEAST 90 days before making any judgements as to their effectiveness.'

At Last! A Powerful Natural Cure for Osteoporosis...
 

Angela53510

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Hi fenner,
I've been looking for threads on osteoporosis/arthritis and found yours. Also been reading an article and considering whats being said. You may want to have a look. We have some supplements sitting on the shelves i forget abt like flaxseed oil, vco, etc. and have to remind myself not to be complacent.

Note: 'we recommend you give them AT LEAST 90 days before making any judgements as to their effectiveness.'

At Last! A Powerful Natural Cure for Osteoporosis...
First, this article is pure advertising, dressed up as medical knowledge! I'm not saying it is all wrong, but the solution is not just buying their products. I take all these minerals, I buy them from locally made Canadian companies.

Second, getting enough minerals, especially trace minerals is vital! So many people eat diets deficient in these minerals, even if they are eating healthy, because the foods are grown on deficient soils. I was getting serious osteopenia, rapidly 12 years ago, I started taking all the minerals and vitamins, Omega Oils, and I reversed some of the damage.

Which brings me to my third point, is that they are mixing up osteoarthritis and osteoporous. You can have very dense, healthy bones like my husband, and still get OA. He has a very strong variety that runs in his family, including our 34 year old son. He has been doing better since I added Glucosamine supplements, less deposition of calcium on damaged spots on his hands. Can you trust a company that doesn't appear to know the difference between osteo-Arthritis and osteoporosis? The first condition lays down extra calcium, the second is loss of calcium and loss of bone density. True, some people get both, but then, everyone gets OA, the only way to dodge it, is not have any injuries, including repetitive wear and tear.

Then there is the claim to "cure" Osteoarthritis! It's not a disease! It is a natural condition that exists in all vertebra, that includes birds, retires, amphibians, and mammals. There is no "cure!" Just eating well, and maybe suppressing it longer?

Use of stronium? Still in the experimental stages. It may be good to for OA, but I will wait till there are more double blind studies and empirical evidence before I add that to my regime.

These kinds if articles are meant to snare the ignorant. While I agree that some people may need supplements, make sure you have the condition before you start dosing with things that you do not need.
 
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hub and I both have forms of arthritis, and have, over the years, as we have been led
by our Saviour, found some amazing remedies for some of our ailments - some work better
for hub and some better for me - it's an on-going process of trials and eliminations for we each,
even if we 'eat' the same things', we are unique, and will have different results - but many things
can be narrowed down, if we are willing to do the research and try what we are led to try...

over the last '30' yrs. or so, whenever we have found something that helped us both, our 'proof',
and tried to 'share', most were not willing to 'give-up', their bad 'habits' in order for improved health...
sad but true, and at our age now, we are witness to what has happened to them...
many are dead, and many are suffering beyond belief and we can see that their lives will be
to soon shortened in a painful death...

lots of grief here and prayers in our hearts, but we must remember, that we ALL have CHOICES, it's what we make
of them that counts the most in our lives and in Jesus' Eyes...
 
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mar09

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First, this article is pure advertising, dressed up as medical knowledge! I'm not saying it is all wrong, but the solution is not just buying their products. I take all these minerals, I buy them from locally made Canadian companies.

Second, getting enough minerals, especially trace minerals is vital! So many people eat diets deficient in these minerals, even if they are eating healthy, because the foods are grown on deficient soils. I was getting serious osteopenia, rapidly 12 years ago, I started taking all the minerals and vitamins, Omega Oils, and I reversed some of the damage.

Which brings me to my third point, is that they are mixing up osteoarthritis and osteoporous. You can have very dense, healthy bones like my husband, and still get OA. He has a very strong variety that runs in his family, including our 34 year old son. He has been doing better since I added Glucosamine supplements, less deposition of calcium on damaged spots on his hands. Can you trust a company that doesn't appear to know the difference between osteo-Arthritis and osteoporosis? The first condition lays down extra calcium, the second is loss of calcium and loss of bone density. True, some people get both, but then, everyone gets OA, the only way to dodge it, is not have any injuries, including repetitive wear and tear.

Then there is the claim to "cure" Osteoarthritis! It's not a disease! It is a natural condition that exists in all vertebra, that includes birds, retires, amphibians, and mammals. There is no "cure!" Just eating well, and maybe suppressing it longer?

Use of stronium? Still in the experimental stages. It may be good to for OA, but I will wait till there are more double blind studies and empirical evidence before I add that to my regime.

These kinds if articles are meant to snare the ignorant. While I agree that some people may need supplements, make sure you have the condition before you start dosing with things that you do not need.
Thank you for your ideas, angela. It may be that you find that advertising, but for me, i dont. People sell all kinds of things, but for me who seldom buys after reading such articles, it is just a way of listening to what others not in the medical field have to say. The fact that he encourages us to take trace minerals is a plus, for idk but maybe not very many people really have that in mind when we eat or buy supplements... until we realize we need them when we get sick.

Thanks for succeeding paragraphs, where you explain the misconceptions abt various diseases, and your experiences. As you say, the article could snare the ignorant, but it also paves the way for us people to seek, and ask our doctors again when we do not understand some things. It allows us to question what we'd otherwise just accept, coz our doctor said so, and some, well in fact many old claims have been refuted after further studies. so there should be no harm if we read with an open mind.

Of course we should not dose on stuff we do not need, but more important is that we do get what we need before we find it too late to reverse and suffer more.
 

mar09

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hub and I both have forms of arthritis, and have, over the years, as we have been led
by our Saviour, found some amazing remedies for some of our ailments - some work better
for hub and some better for me - it's an on-going process of trials and eliminations for we each,
even if we 'eat' the same things', we are unique, and will have different results - but many things
can be narrowed down, if we are willing to do the research and try what we are led to try...

over the last '30' yrs. or so, whenever we have found something that helped us both, our 'proof',
and tried to 'share', most were not willing to 'give-up', their bad 'habits' in order for improved health...
sad but true, and at our age now, we are witness to what has happened to them...
many are dead, and many are suffering beyond belief and we can see that their lives will be
to soon shortened in a painful death...


lots of grief here and prayers in our hearts, but we must remember, that we ALL have CHOICES, it's what we make
of them that counts the most in our lives and in Jesus' Eyes...
Yes, whatever it is, we just hope people take the extra step to understand where they are, wc could have been prevented. Oh, and this came to mind, sometimes the simple extra step of drinking a glass of water w/ our med or supplements goes a long way in helping us heal. I know some who take a sip or 2 w/ med, and it wont work. Or with activated charcoal for example, we may take it but get constipated instead of healed, for we missed that glass we so needed with it. Then theres the person who doesnt want to drink so as not to be disturbed at work on going to the comfort room. She gets a sick kidney and is operated on, and says i wish i wasnt so lazy to take a drink before.