Does the Bible ever say to beat kids?

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Subhumanoidal

Subhumanoidal

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Burn1986 said:
“Well-known Member” and you really think the Bible would say beat you kids and use brutality against them? Dear Lord. I need to rethink what a “Well-known Member” might know, or not know about the Bible. I’m amazed at the complete lack of knowledge and the pure despondency of some of these “Well-known Members”.

(Where does this lack of any wisdom, lack of any spiritual acumen, or complete absence of desire to gain Godly understanding come from? Is it the lack of teaching in churches? I’m dumbfounded.)
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Well known member is related to the number of posts a user has made. Nothing more. Some people have custom titles, but the majority just use the defaults. Which is just post count.

"Complete absence to gain Godly understanding come from?".
Well she's asking questions and you've made a point, twice, to criticize her. If this is how you handle people seeking counsel, maybe, just maybe, that has a negative effect on people reaching out for answers.

Also many on this site use titles posed as questions, when they aren't asking questions. They're telling others the answer. It could also been seen, by reading her post, that this is what she's done. There is no question if you read her post.
 
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Subhumanoidal said:
Well known member is related to the number of posts a user has made. Nothing more. Some people have custom titles, but the majority just use the defaults. Which is just post count.

"Complete absence to gain Godly understanding come from?".
Well she's asking questions and you've made a point, twice, to criticize her. If this is how you handle people seeking counsel, maybe, just maybe, that has a negative effect on people reaching out for answers.

Also many on this site use titles posed as questions, when they aren't asking questions. They're telling others the answer. It could also been seen, by reading her post, that this is what she's done. There is no question if you read her post.
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I read the post. What does the title of the thread say? Where in the world does the Bible say to BEAT your kids? I’m asking seriously. Where would a sane person get that idea?

You’re right though, I should just patronize, and say “you’ve made a great point. Thank you.”
 
MsMediator

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Subhumanoidal said:
Now I do think many who spank do it wrong. My parents never spanked me out of anger. My parents would discuss whether or not spanking was necessary, and if so, the one who was most calm did it. They always made sure to be calm. And following the spanking I'd sit on their lap, they'd discuss the situation with me and end it with a hug and telling me they loved me. After that it was dropped. They didn't bring it back up again.
People only doing the spanking and not the rest are not doing it in a healthy manner.
And people doing any other physical punishment are leaning into abuse to one degree or another.
Leaving bruises or any such thing is also over the top.
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What you describe is ideal if one decides to spank...parents remaining calm, discussing the situation, and ending with kindness. Though not spanking, it reminds me of the scene in A Christmas Story where Ralphie had to put soap in his mouth for profanity. However, when a kid behaves very badly it will naturally provoke the parent to anger, and the parent will very likely respond with anger. Even a mild offense can provoke a parent. If an adult already has temper or certain mental health issues, he/she is not going to remain calm and anything can set them off. In King of the Hill, Peggy Hill is a nice/normal woman but she lost her temper and spanked Dooley. In fact, this is a more realistic reaction from parents (though still a bit on the lighter side) than that of Ralphie's mom who remained more calm (though still shocked). I think removing privileges is a better option. One reason why the younger generation may be more entitled and disrespectful is that the parents give them anything they want, and the kids expect the same from society/employer without going through the usual process. It is not all about lack of discipline.
 
JaumeJ

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Here is an example of discipline without brutality. I am told that when I was a toddler, I walked across our street to see someone, a neighbor I believe. Mom is said to have run screaming and picked me up giving me a good swat on the rump. Perhaps I did not understand implicitey, but the swat helped as she told me never to walk into or across the street, EVER. Apparently that swat did the trick cause I never walked out that way again, according to what Mama told me..

If a child is yet too young to be reasoned with, a swat on therump convinces.
 
Subhumanoidal

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MsMediator said:
What you describe is ideal if one decides to spank...parents remaining calm, discussing the situation, and ending with kindness. Though not spanking, it reminds me of the scene in A Christmas Story where Ralphie had to put soap in his mouth for profanity. However, when a kid behaves very badly it will naturally provoke the parent to anger, and the parent will very likely respond with anger. Even a mild offense can provoke a parent. If an adult already has temper or certain mental health issues, he/she is not going to remain calm and anything can set them off. In King of the Hill, Peggy Hill is a nice/normal woman but she lost her temper and spanked Dooley. In fact, this is a more realistic reaction from parents (though still a bit on the lighter side) than that of Ralphie's mom who remained more calm (though still shocked). I think removing privileges is a better option. One reason why the younger generation may be more entitled and disrespectful is that the parents give them anything they want, and the kids expect the same from society/employer without going through the usual process. It is not all about lack of discipline.
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As I said, what I described, was what my parents did with me.
And yes it is ideal. Many things are ideal, yet not done that way. Doesn't make it wrong or useless to present it.
If a parent has issues where they're losing their temper on their kids that's on the parents to find a resolution. Chances are they're doing more damage with their temper than their lack of discipline, at thatpoint. Parents have a responsibility to do what they can to change what needs to be changed to become a better parent.

Also I was not spanked regularly. I had privileges taken away much more often. If the thing I did wrong was bad enough that's when my parents would discuss if it was even worthy of a spanking. If not, I didn't get one and got another punishment instead.

I never said Only to spank, merely that I had no problems with it as an adult.

Yes parents can be angered by their children. That's why i pointed out my parents didn't spank in anger. Spanking was not an immediate response. Specifically to ensure it was never done in anger.
 
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