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Going_Nowhere

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Okay, I want to start off by saying that I know there's probably been MANY threads about this very topic. And I apologize for making another one. But I thought I would try a little different approach than some people do.


Have you personally ever thought that somehow you committed the unforgivable sin that Jesus spoke about in the Gospels? I mean, if you don't want to share what it is you exactly did or said that made you think that you committed this sin....then that's fine. But what I want to know is:


Have you ever thought that maybe you committed this sin somehow? And do you still think that maybe you did? Or did you overcome that fear and no longer believe that you have?


Here are the verses where Jesus talked about the unforgivable or unpardonable sin.


Matthew 12:30-32: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, any sin and blasphemy can be forgiven. But blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
Mark 3:28-30: 28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. 30 - Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
Luke 12:8-10: "I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God. But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."
 

Subhumanoidal

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Since the most commonly held belief is that the unpardonable sin is rejecting Christ, I'm going to think most people here will say no.
 

Adstar

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My Answer No.. I have never blasphemed the Holy Spirit..

The ""popular"" belief is that it is rejecting Jesus.. But that is not how Jesus described it in the Bible.. So i do not believe it is rejecting Jesus.. A person can initially reject Jesus and maintain that rejection for years and then they can change their mind and accept and believe Jesus years later.. So rejecting Jesus can be forgiven if one later on repents of their earlier rejection..
 

Ghoti2

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Until you concretely decide for yourself that you know what "the unpardonable sin" is, you will continue to ask a vague question about something that, to you, will just remain a nebulous cloud of confusion.
 

Tinkerbell725

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What is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? Can anyone commit it today?

No one can commit the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit today. But in NT times it was committed and in the world to come, which is in the millennium when Jesus will be here in person, many will commit that sin. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is telling Jesus face to face that He has Satan in Him.

Matthew 12:32

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
 

dodgingstones

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Just wondering how this is not the N.T. times, and how this world is not this world? This world is still the same world that Christ walked.
 

Tinkerbell725

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Just wondering how this is not the N.T. times, and how this world is not this world? This world is still the same world that Christ walked.
The same world, different times. Jesus is now in Heaven but will be back soon. People who want to blaspheme the Holy Spirit can wait till Jesus is back.
 

dodgingstones

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IMO, people can blaspheme the Spirit now. I guess it's a matter of interpretation.
 

Tinkerbell725

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IMO, people can blaspheme the Spirit now. I guess it's a matter of interpretation.
IMO, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit happened when they told Jesus face to face that He has an unclean spirit. That is why Jesus said, that sin will never be forgiven, not in that lifetime nor in another lifetime when He comes back. If you say that to His face in the future, you will go straight to hell.

How can one commit that sin today? If they reject Jesus?

For example, muslims reject Jesus. Will they go straight to hell since it is an unpardonable sin? No because they have plenty of chances to repent, change their minds, accept Jesus and be forgiven before He comes back.
 

dodgingstones

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Read ur quote from Matthew. It doesn't match ur thoughts...

Just saying
 

dodgingstones

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Ur thoughts only make sense if you don't believe in the Trinity. Jesus is God the Son, then there is God the Holy Spirit, and that is who Matthew is speaking of. Well, Christ speaking as recorded in Matthew