Have we done something wrong?

or maybe its that our generation dont see sexuality as...your gay or straight.... maybe we see things as a continuum and that people either emotionally or physically can move back n forth along the continuum. Many of my friends will like somone...they may or may not do anything about it...and often dont even identify themselves as gay. They just like that person.

N maybe we see that a gay person being told you dont really like your own gender at all really....your just electing to coz its trendy or youve been badly influenced, as being a failure to know anything about the person your criticising or invalidating them..... silly trendy kid living in a poisoned world.... n maybe someone who thinks like that of me I wouldnt listen to in the first place..... but maybe I would wanna know wot u think, n maybe i'd try n cautiously explore that a little n hope i didnt get ridiculed for it.

I have read a hundred threads here about gay groups. They occupy all levels of intelligence and workplaces. They have all types of upbringings from a traumatised awful one to a solid christian one. If I was him I would already know what you think before I probed your view. I would know you hold a certain view beuacuse of your religious belief and how important it was to you. What I wouldnt know though is if you'd accept me to talk about where I am at ...doing that would be quite a risk.

I think that's the same he viewed it.
It is in puberty that you start to be aware of your sexuality and some people might be attracted by same-sex persons.
I think it becomes a reason to worry if you go along with that attraction and tell yourself that you were born that way and there's nothing you can do about it. That's pretty much what LGBT is doing and that's why I don't agree with them. It is very important that we know ourselves and analyse ourselves.

Sexuality is not a socio-cultural given. We are attracted by opposite sex for a reason that goes beyond our culture, religion and generation. We are not aware of it, but the sexual instinct is much more complex than we think. It is not an accident or an arbitrary thing.

I don't know for sure whether he is just confused and trying stuff or whether he is really gay. From our discussion, he didn't seem gay but only flirting with the idea. I still believe that his confusion comes from the mass-media, but I wouldn't tell him the things you put in bold. You are wrong about me in that respect.

It is because of that phrase in bold that I didn't talk with him about Jesus Christ. There are too many preconceptions about what christianity is. And I knew that he would have think just as you did: that he already knows what I'm about to say.
It's false. You don't know me. Just like there are different types of gays, so there are different types of christians (and "christianities").

Well, I already did that. I mean, I listened to him, tried to give him an advice, try to understand him. And I am willing to do it in the future. That's why I am so much into this thing. Because I think I care. As I already said, salvation is not just a word. But an existential fact. I am afraid not to screw it up.

@guesswho - please dont be worried - I was writing about how I would think - I have no idea what HE would think & can only guess. And I can see that you maybe interpreted that Im levelling a critcism of you...na defo not n I am terribly sorry if thats how i came across coz the fact u r here asking n being so nice about it n genuinely wanting to be helpful - that means u a very nice person in my books.

Thank you.

You did help me. A lot.

I will try to avoid all the don'ts you mentioned.

I really need to find a way to communicate with teenagers to not move them away. It's not only teenagers that are misunderstood. Sometimes, we too, get misunderstood by teenagers.

I want to find a word to encourage him and to put a good seed in him. Just like Jesus Christ did through his parables and just like the desert fathers did through their words of wisdom and truth. You are right that an intellectualized conception of sexuality would fall flat and dry and probably don't have any impact on him.

May God help me with this!

You're a smart girl, zoii.

Freewill...the costliest self torture

Hi, I just came across this thread and I thank you for sharing this. It was only right over a year ago when I found out my teenage son is gay. I can't even begin to describe the shock and fear that coursed through me at the time. I mean I was dumbfounded to silence at first. I'm so glad looking back that the Lord shut my mouth immediately, lol. My son was very upset, and I knew something was right for over a year before he finally admitted this to me. He just completely withdrew into a deep depression...and wouldn't talk. When he finally did, it all made sense to me. All my words over the three years prior to that moment came flooding back to me....even back to the time my son first asked me if I thought he was gay. It was haunting to say the least. The person who mentioned "I would have just listened" is so wise...so so wise. The Lord places these opportunities before us without us even realizing it at the time. These people are real human beings struggling with what's often unimaginable to most. To come and confide something like that to someone is one of the most difficult things ever for them to do because of their fear of rejection. After telling my son how much I love him despite being gay, I took time out to pray. The Lord really had to calm the whirlwind that was going on in my heart, and clear my head. Later I asked If I could talk with him. I knew my son didn't have a relationship with God before this. I knew he always had difficulty believing God really existed and a lot of it had to do with his own battle with depression. But I told Him the Lord is real...and He loves him so much and wants only the best for him. I also told him that the Lord isn't the one who made him gay....just like the Lord isn't the one who made any of us the sinful creatures we are. I begged him to at least give God a chance to prove Himself...if my son truly seeks with all his heart, he will find that God is real, that God loves Him, and that God forgives him if he only ask and receive. I told him seek God, even as a gay man. Come to God with all of your sin, as you are, and give yourself to Him completely, so that he can bring healing, renew your heart, mind, body, and fill you with his Spirit. I said we are all sinful, and we all need a savior, because it is our sin that separates us from God. Yes, I told him homosexuality is sinful, and no more sinful than the sins you and I have carried, and no less. I told him I will always pray for him, and love him, and point him in the direction that will save him. At the same time, I will respect the fact that he is now an adult and can make his own choices. I may not agree with them, but I will love him unconditionally regardless. He needed to know that...and still does....and I need to lean on the Lord daily to do that. It's so hard because at times, the internal struggle is painful....and I have to give it over to the Lord each time in exchange for his peace. I can tell you from personal experience...do not be afraid to build a relationship with a homosexual. They need to see the love of Christ reflected through you to them...they need to know that you love them and that you value them as human beings without conditions....and they need to know about God....they need to see the work He is doing in your life and in the lives of those around you...and they need the truth balanced with grace more than ever. They are lost in need of a savior, not because of their "homosexuality" itself, but because they are sinners. So many christians are quick to jump on their homosexuality, without getting to the root of the problem....sin. I know a number of gay people. I have a few family members who are gay. I have had friends who are gay...and now I have a child who is gay...and in need of the Lord. I have learned over time what to say, what not to say, and the best way to say it, and I'm still learning because I love these people and want to see them saved. I have learned plenty about them, about their community, why they are so angry, and have seen first hand how people have treated them in the name of "God". It breaks my heart, and may God Himself put it right within my own. I am so grateful you shared this story, and I pray for this young man as well as for you...that you may actually help him crossn the bridge between he and God through the love of Jesus Christ our Lord.Thank you, and may God bless you!

What a tough situation.

I guess what I would do is tell this person the same thing I would tell my son or grandsons.

I would try to express what I think about the world and what the world tries to do to people.

I would try to express the Love that God has and how it is the opposite of what the world does.

In the end I wouldn't worry too much about how my opinion affects or does not affect this person. I would just do my best and pray that God works His Will in this persons life.