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Lanolin

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wasnt there a band called 'the grateful dead' ? Maybe they were hippies. I also recall heavy metal bands with names like 'megadeath' . The 80s were full of loud screeching bands like that with frontmen that had long shaggy hair they never washed.

It seemed like they were the tail end of the hippies. I really dont know how that type of music (loud screeching guitars and drums) ended up in the church though.
 

Homewardbound

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The long hair thing...I find strange because short hair is so much easier to look after. Many women have shorter hair because long hair would get in the way...guys pull it, it gets stuck in machines. its annoying. I mean its beautiful, but beautiful isnt always practical. Also having a lot of hair can give you headaches. And its a pain to wash.

?! Maybe guys grew their hair long just to experience what it was like to be female and emphasise with the plight I dont know. But I notice many cant look after their long hair, it goes all ratty with split ends etc and the. they just end up tying it in a greasy ponytail.
Lanolin, the long hair thing was a form of rebellion back then. Our parents thought men should wear their hair short. It was a "man" thing I think for my parents. The ratty hair, big beards and weird dress was a form of going against the "status quo"...I agree we need to learn from the past. Because it will come back to bite us. In fact, I think it has. the Hippies of the past are now our politicians and rule makers...
 

Lanolin

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Lanolin, the long hair thing was a form of rebellion back then. Our parents thought men should wear their hair short. It was a "man" thing I think for my parents. The ratty hair, big beards and weird dress was a form of going against the "status quo"...I agree we need to learn from the past. Because it will come back to bite us. In fact, I think it has. the Hippies of the past are now our politicians and rule makers...
I thought it was just an army thing..they had to be crew cut to fit under those helmets and they werent allowed beards. I dont think it was just parents saying so.

Men have had longish hair before...males wore those long wigs (esp judges) and in centuries past men didnt have super short hair. But they looked after it and most men wore beards.
 

Homewardbound

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I thought it was just an army thing..they had to be crew cut to fit under those helmets and they werent allowed beards. I dont think it was just parents saying so.

Men have had longish hair before...males wore those long wigs (esp judges) and in centuries past men didnt have super short hair. But they looked after it and most men wore beards.
I agree that men in the past had long hair. No dispute there! But we (guys my age) used our hair length to rebel against our parents and authority.
A lot of army age men dodged going into the military so they would not have to go to Viet Nam. That is where the drugs and illicit sex became rampant.
It all boiled down to rebellion.
However, not all hippies were all that bad. Today's rebellion makes the '60's look like a Sunday School picnic.
 

Lanolin

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I agree that men in the past had long hair. No dispute there! But we (guys my age) used our hair length to rebel against our parents and authority.
A lot of army age men dodged going into the military so they would not have to go to Viet Nam. That is where the drugs and illicit sex became rampant.
It all boiled down to rebellion.
However, not all hippies were all that bad. Today's rebellion makes the '60's look like a Sunday School picnic.
what is todays rebellion? Not getting vaccinated and not working for the man?
what about the girls? They already had long hair. Did they cut theirs short so they could join the army instead?
 

Homewardbound

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what is todays rebellion? Not getting vaccinated and not working for the man?
what about the girls? They already had long hair. Did they cut theirs short so they could join the army instead?
People rebel in different ways. For men, back in my day, the long hair, drugs, sex, ect. was a form of rebellion. I can't speak for girls, but I believe it to be true for them as well, women rebel in different ways as well. Back in my day, bra burning, or going braless was seen as a way to rebel against established norms.
By the way, the way a person rebels can change by generations as well.
Thank you for making me think about this. I have no problem with anyone having long hair. It does not make them a rebel these days.
 

Lanolin

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People rebel in different ways. For men, back in my day, the long hair, drugs, sex, ect. was a form of rebellion. I can't speak for girls, but I believe it to be true for them as well, women rebel in different ways as well. Back in my day, bra burning, or going braless was seen as a way to rebel against established norms.
By the way, the way a person rebels can change by generations as well.
Thank you for making me think about this. I have no problem with anyone having long hair. It does not make them a rebel these days.
oh yes I heard about bra burning lol
I dont think anyone does it or even thinks about it these days. You can pretty much wear whatever you like.
If you dont want to wear underwear, its up to you. Some women just wear bras as outerwear. Like in the 80s it was Madonna.
 

Lanolin

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I dont think theres anything to rebel against anymore lol
aside from whatver your parents do you do the opposite. But then its generally expected of teenagers to rebel. But if your parents are opposite to each other you might have to choose which one to rebel against.

Also parents themselves rebel by putting their children in homsechool but then when the children reach teenagerhood they might want to rebel by going to public school lol.
 

Homewardbound

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I dont think theres anything to rebel against anymore lol
aside from whatver your parents do you do the opposite. But then its generally expected of teenagers to rebel. But if your parents are opposite to each other you might have to choose which one to rebel against.

Also parents themselves rebel by putting their children in homsechool but then when the children reach teenagerhood they might want to rebel by going to public school lol.
I'm sure home schooling has a benefit for some. But the drawback seems to be in the area of socializing and developing people skills. A lot of life experiences get missed too, if a parent isn't careful.
 

Lanolin

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Do you think rebellion is the same as protesting?
I wonder if catholics just see all protestants as 'rebels'.

Apparently the entire USA was in rebellion against England, who were originally rebelling against the Pope, and he was probably rebelling too....
 

Homewardbound

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Do you think rebellion is the same as protesting?
I wonder if catholics just see all protestants as 'rebels'.

Apparently the entire USA was in rebellion against England, who were originally rebelling against the Pope, and he was probably rebelling too....
Good question! I think in MOST cases it is. But I wonder. We can protest without doing anything about the problem. But when we rebel, isn't that a heart issue, as well as doing something about it? I'm not sure, great question and good observation!
 

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In the first world war last century young people (men) that refused to go war were called conscientious objectors or 'conchies'. People gave them white feathers and sneered at them for being cowards.

They were also imprisoned if they didnt do their duty. (it was compulsory, not voluntary like it is today) Many of them were Christians who believed in peacemaking, not warmongering.

Others often claimed illness or disability even if they were able bodied and were called malingerers.

I wonder if many of the hippies who refused to fight in Vietnam were Christians. I dont know why the hippies then turned to drugs though.
 

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In the first world war last century young people (men) that refused to go war were called conscientious objectors or 'conchies'. People gave them white feathers and sneered at them for being cowards.

They were also imprisoned if they didnt do their duty. (it was compulsory, not voluntary like it is today) Many of them were Christians who believed in peacemaking, not warmongering.

Others often claimed illness or disability even if they were able bodied and were called malingerers.

I wonder if many of the hippies who refused to fight in Vietnam were Christians. I dont know why the hippies then turned to drugs though.
I'm not sure if they were believers or not. Just for info here, the Jesus Movement started around 1965 or so, up to about 1976 (I may be wrong about the exact dates), so perhaps many of them were Christians. Also, I think many in the military were also.
 

Mission21

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I'm not sure if they were believers or not. Just for info here, the Jesus Movement started around 1965 or so, up to about 1976 (I may be wrong about the exact dates), so perhaps many of them were Christians. Also, I think many in the military were also.
Good point.
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Many young people went to Canada.
- To escape..from the draft/Vietnam War.
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In early 1970's, there was a 'Draft Lottery'..
- Lottery number was assigned.. according to your birthday.
I still remember..watching the evening news.
- To find out my lottery number!
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'The Vietnam War'
1955-1975
-20 years war..
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* As mentioned on Post #5..
My spiritual journey started,
- during the 'Jesus Movement'.
 
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Oblio

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My sister married an American draft dodger. She was a hippie. So was I.
I believe the Lord began a move of His Spirit, the one I came to faith in, through a guy named Lonnie Frisbee.
 

JaumeJ

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While attending the U of I C hampaign-Urbana, the referred to Jesus movement was in full swing. I was not yet convinced about all of the Bible until Good Friday, 1969 when, long story, the Holy Spirit entered into me, my heart.

No one had spoken to of this experience, yet it happened, just for me. Now you may call believers new to Jesus Yeshua Jesus Freaks or whatever, but I know it was a true and highly, the highest, spiritual movement.

That wonderful encounter given me by the Father led me to drop everything just month before my graduation to share the Word with folkes in several states, camping summers in the Rockies reading the Word, and culminating in my travelling to Israel at the end of three years in order to see for myself, and to see exactly what waqs happening there.

Those brief three years were filled with awe and wonderof God and His manner of using me, even me of all folks. It jsut goes to show all, God will use anything in order to promote His Gospel to everyone," He uses what is not to bring down what is.

Praise God, it is joyous, so, go ahed, praise Him.