Umm the guy in the video might want to consider that telling trolls they are mentally ill and then trying to get them to repent of their trolling ways has the opposite effect. I mean if some one called you a mentally ill moron but offered to help you not be one would you be inclined to take their offer?
TROLLS ARE SICK PEOPLE
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I see what you mean. Plenty of us on CC have in the past dealt with or are presently struggling with a variety of mental illnesses (depression, PTSD, anxiety, panic attacks, etc.). I don't think calling someone a moron is beneficial.
Jesus dealt with a lunatic in the mountains who coudn't be controlled even with chains. The lunatic man had demons controlling him. Even so, the Lord had compassion on the man and healed him.
I do not think the majority of trolls are like that lunatic who couldn't help himself. I think most are just people who have isolated themselves from society because they feel they don't fit in. They find a niche of online people like themselves and go after people they're intimidated by for some reason or another.
Jesus dealt with a lunatic in the mountains who coudn't be controlled even with chains. The lunatic man had demons controlling him. Even so, the Lord had compassion on the man and healed him.
I do not think the majority of trolls are like that lunatic who couldn't help himself. I think most are just people who have isolated themselves from society because they feel they don't fit in. They find a niche of online people like themselves and go after people they're intimidated by for some reason or another.
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The truth is hard to accept in many cases. There is a saying "Truth hurts". But in fact truth does not hurt, it actually liberates, it will set you free (if you accept it). What hurts is the ego-self (the false-self) feeling deflated, humbled. Of course those who will not accept the truth will see the truth as an insult, lie, and anything else that hurts their ego. They seek revenge and throw insults back. The difference is that their revenge is aimed to hurt the other, where the original truth is aimed to awaken and liberate their fears. Ignorance is the opposite of enlightenment. Truth enlightens those that have enough faith to open their minds to see their own truth.
The main trouble is that it is hard for the ego to humble itself to the point where it cannot deny itself anymore (self-humiliation). A repenting soul knows all about this.
The main trouble is that it is hard for the ego to humble itself to the point where it cannot deny itself anymore (self-humiliation). A repenting soul knows all about this.
But the guy was not throwing the (truth) at them he was literally throwing insults. Trolls have a mentality where the more you insult them the more they retaliate because it's a game to them. If they can create a fire and a person reacts in a negative way they are only feeding the fire, and one can go behind the guise of speaking the truth but the truth does not feed the fires of war it quenches it. Only love patience humbleness and all the fruits of the spirit can be the living water that puts the fire out.
A few years ago a certain troll came here to cc and he baited so many people in the bdf and everyone of them took it, he was relentless in insulting and provoking everyone but when he tried to bait me I only continued to respond in a calm and loving manner he called me all kinds of horrific things and spoke such foul things about my mom and about God but even so I refused to play his game. and before he was banned he mentioned how he keeps trying to bait me but I won't take the bait, he said it was weird and that I seemed different. He was of course banned but a couple months later he came under a new user name only to pm me and told me how he was so confused as to why I wouldn't take his bait, he said it was so easy to get everyone to attack him and react and he just laughed and laughed but he told me that when I refused to take it and kept responding in a way that he has never seen a Christian respond before he became curious about what made it where I was like that.
He gave me his lifes story of so called Christians that he has dealt with in life and why he became a Christian troll but when he saw this one person who showed patience and compassion even with all the horrible things he said he began to question everything and soon enough he found a reason to follow God. I never heard from him again but this is why only love and patience and compassion can still the fires of a raging soul not this supposed truth that is being thrown at them. The sad thing we who call ourselves Christians who claim to be love and yet show anything but are a big part of the reason these trolls exist
A few years ago a certain troll came here to cc and he baited so many people in the bdf and everyone of them took it, he was relentless in insulting and provoking everyone but when he tried to bait me I only continued to respond in a calm and loving manner he called me all kinds of horrific things and spoke such foul things about my mom and about God but even so I refused to play his game. and before he was banned he mentioned how he keeps trying to bait me but I won't take the bait, he said it was weird and that I seemed different. He was of course banned but a couple months later he came under a new user name only to pm me and told me how he was so confused as to why I wouldn't take his bait, he said it was so easy to get everyone to attack him and react and he just laughed and laughed but he told me that when I refused to take it and kept responding in a way that he has never seen a Christian respond before he became curious about what made it where I was like that.
He gave me his lifes story of so called Christians that he has dealt with in life and why he became a Christian troll but when he saw this one person who showed patience and compassion even with all the horrible things he said he began to question everything and soon enough he found a reason to follow God. I never heard from him again but this is why only love and patience and compassion can still the fires of a raging soul not this supposed truth that is being thrown at them. The sad thing we who call ourselves Christians who claim to be love and yet show anything but are a big part of the reason these trolls exist
Great response and story.
Many would respond to your nurturing way, and many would not either. Not all respond to the same way/methods. Even Jesus responded in different ways. One must discern what is best for each individual. Some require a softer approach while others a more tough-love approach, and most in-between. The guy in the video, as how I see it, leaned more to the tough-love approach. I guess he used many kinder ways, and many did not respond, and hence a more stronger response via the video.
The trouble is, those that do respond in a tough-love way get reported and probably band, yet those how respond lovingly save themselves from being judged harsh and remain on the forum, as well as the trolls who don't respond to love.
What I am saying, there is never a simple one rule solution to deal with a particular dysfunctional human behaviour.
Many would respond to your nurturing way, and many would not either. Not all respond to the same way/methods. Even Jesus responded in different ways. One must discern what is best for each individual. Some require a softer approach while others a more tough-love approach, and most in-between. The guy in the video, as how I see it, leaned more to the tough-love approach. I guess he used many kinder ways, and many did not respond, and hence a more stronger response via the video.
The trouble is, those that do respond in a tough-love way get reported and probably band, yet those how respond lovingly save themselves from being judged harsh and remain on the forum, as well as the trolls who don't respond to love.
What I am saying, there is never a simple one rule solution to deal with a particular dysfunctional human behaviour.
This is exactly right.
In what I have observed about trolls, especially when it comes to groups of trolls in Christian circles, the very Christian's that feed them tend to be the condemning ones, the self-righteous, the I'm-the-best-Christian type.
If Satan tests Christians, then trolls are an example of that, and the ones who think they are doing Gods work by condemning them and berating them (which is what they want everyone to see, and coincidentally the trolls want everyone to see too) are the ones who struggle to know God, but have come up with their own elevated view of what it means to be a Christian.
But being a Christian is helping people, it is showing kindness and humility, it is casting out demons, not condemning people who are bound to them.
Give me a troll any day I don't really fear them, I see a troubled person. But the kinds of Christians they are reactive too, are the kind of people who poison the idea of being a Christian. Being a Christian has nothing to do with hypocrisy, or acting like a Pharisee, of being a teacher (false teacher) and corrector of truth in others, a slanderer, a mocker, of any person who shows kindness or non-bias where they show extreme bias, prejudice, and unkindness which they call love, and knowing God.
I've seen people come into the forum, and on the chat app (when it was online), not as a troll, but as someone troubled, looking for help. And in the chat app, they have been seen as a disruption to the conversation or smalltalk, by prominent speakers. On here, you have people who make presumptions that they are a troll, before they even know they are troll, and do not see HOW damaging that is to make such a presumption on a well meaning person. You can't make such quick assumptions, because you think you are smart and discerning, and can base things on a few words.
So I ask myself, is the troll to be feared, or are people with a trolling attitude of self-righteousness the ones who are more toxic to Christians and what it means to be Christian in general? They are always prominent figures, because they like to have that reputation, above everyone else. And they will often try to enhance each others reputation and stick up for each other, even if what that person said or did was wrong. Preachers of truth, who are quick to belittle others. There is even an example of that on this thread from someone who prominently likes to belittle others.
In what I have observed about trolls, especially when it comes to groups of trolls in Christian circles, the very Christian's that feed them tend to be the condemning ones, the self-righteous, the I'm-the-best-Christian type.
If Satan tests Christians, then trolls are an example of that, and the ones who think they are doing Gods work by condemning them and berating them (which is what they want everyone to see, and coincidentally the trolls want everyone to see too) are the ones who struggle to know God, but have come up with their own elevated view of what it means to be a Christian.
But being a Christian is helping people, it is showing kindness and humility, it is casting out demons, not condemning people who are bound to them.
Give me a troll any day I don't really fear them, I see a troubled person. But the kinds of Christians they are reactive too, are the kind of people who poison the idea of being a Christian. Being a Christian has nothing to do with hypocrisy, or acting like a Pharisee, of being a teacher (false teacher) and corrector of truth in others, a slanderer, a mocker, of any person who shows kindness or non-bias where they show extreme bias, prejudice, and unkindness which they call love, and knowing God.
I've seen people come into the forum, and on the chat app (when it was online), not as a troll, but as someone troubled, looking for help. And in the chat app, they have been seen as a disruption to the conversation or smalltalk, by prominent speakers. On here, you have people who make presumptions that they are a troll, before they even know they are troll, and do not see HOW damaging that is to make such a presumption on a well meaning person. You can't make such quick assumptions, because you think you are smart and discerning, and can base things on a few words.
So I ask myself, is the troll to be feared, or are people with a trolling attitude of self-righteousness the ones who are more toxic to Christians and what it means to be Christian in general? They are always prominent figures, because they like to have that reputation, above everyone else. And they will often try to enhance each others reputation and stick up for each other, even if what that person said or did was wrong. Preachers of truth, who are quick to belittle others. There is even an example of that on this thread from someone who prominently likes to belittle others.
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Breathe Emily Nats,this isn't a dating site but you may find someone who you could fall in love with just ask Blain or Artsie Steph or Yes even despite his user name Ugly all of them have love interests and some plan to get married and some whom I haven't mentioned met on this site and got married,don't get all tore up lol!
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Heehee!! Nothing blew up, WineRose. Don't worry, dear.
The internet leaves a lot to be desired. It's certainly not the same as folks sitting with each other talking normally, ya know? Any little word or phrase can get misconstrued and snowball into oblivion.
The internet leaves a lot to be desired. It's certainly not the same as folks sitting with each other talking normally, ya know? Any little word or phrase can get misconstrued and snowball into oblivion.
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Sounds like Mobbing Syndrome.
