I'm afraid of hell more than I love Jesus

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Hello everyone. I have been a Christian for a year now, don't know if I'm saved. I suffer from intrusice thougjts and schitzo affective disorder. It started when I tried reading the gospels and Jesus talked about hell every other paragraph. Put the fear of God in me lol. From then on I became terrified of Jesus and think of him as one who sends you to hell since he is the one who talks most about hell.

I came to Jesus after he cured me from ocd. Ive been looking for months now on books about hell and YouTube videos and they scare me so much.

I should also mention I was institutionalized twice last year for fearing the blasphemy of the holy spirit so much that i brokedown. Thats where my fear of hell started since it is the unpardonable sin that Jesus WON'T forgive and a one way ticket to hell. The videos say they've seen Christians in hell. "Good" christians. Bible readers evangelizers priests preachers nuns etc for just one sin. And im thinking if Jesus's best of the best are in hell what hope is there for me.

Right now originally when I came to Jesus out of thanks and love is gone. I think i follow him now for fear if I do anything at all he will send me to hell. So I do nothing all day. Hoping if i do nothing i won't mess up and he wont send me there..
 

oyster67

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Why do you think Jesus died on the Cross for you?
 

theanointedwinner

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anytime I feel that I can't even come to God or feel apart from God
For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all thing (1 John 3:20)
God is capable of compassionate understanding,

For God did not (keyword: not) send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save (keyword: save) the world through him (John 3:17)
 

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Being a Christian, there is no need to be worrying whether or not you have, or will, blaspheme the Holy Spirit. It is obvious to me that the unpardonable sin is total rejection of Jesus dying on the cross for our sins. Yes, Jesus does love you as He died for your sins but perhaps, besides love, the thought of eternal separation between you and Jesus is unbearable for Him. To fear God scripturally means to respect Him and not be terrified of what He might do to you if you break the rules. Glad to have you finally join us in the forums. Welcome to CC.
 

oyster67

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Because he loves me
Isn't that wonderful! What fortunate creatures we are! Doesn't that make you want to jump and say; "Praise the Lord, thank you JESUS!" Go ahead, do it now. Use those words.
 

blue_ladybug

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Welcome to CC. :) This is a topic that is much better suited for the Bible forum.. :)

Do you even KNOW what the one unpardonable sin even is?
 

theanointedwinner

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Welcome to CC. :) This is a topic that is much better suited for the Bible forum.. :)

Do you even KNOW what the one unpardonable sin even is?
let's put it this way, the one unpardonable sin is the impossible blasphemy

keyword: impossible
 

blue_ladybug

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Oh it's quite possible to deny that God, Jesus and the HS exist..
 
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Welcome to CC. :) This is a topic that is much better suited for the Bible forum.. :)

Do you even KNOW what the one unpardonable sin even is?
Calling the holy spirit evil or a demon. My intrusive thoughts are always blasphemous against the holy spirit that's why I'm afraid
 

theanointedwinner

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Calling the holy spirit evil or a demon. My intrusive thoughts are always blasphemous against the holy spirit that's why I'm afraid
is it all because satan is trying to dare you, "I bet you won't blaspheme, because you are chicken, bok, bok, bok"

temptation happens, pray for strength, protection, and the humlity to confess any weakness
 

Ahwatukee

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Hello everyone. I have been a Christian for a year now, don't know if I'm saved. I suffer from intrusice thougjts and schitzo affective disorder. It started when I tried reading the gospels and Jesus talked about hell every other paragraph. Put the fear of God in me lol. From then on I became terrified of Jesus and think of him as one who sends you to hell since he is the one who talks most about hell.

I came to Jesus after he cured me from ocd. Ive been looking for months now on books about hell and YouTube videos and they scare me so much.

I should also mention I was institutionalized twice last year for fearing the blasphemy of the holy spirit so much that i brokedown. Thats where my fear of hell started since it is the unpardonable sin that Jesus WON'T forgive and a one way ticket to hell. The videos say they've seen Christians in hell. "Good" christians. Bible readers evangelizers priests preachers nuns etc for just one sin. And im thinking if Jesus's best of the best are in hell what hope is there for me.

Right now originally when I came to Jesus out of thanks and love is gone. I think i follow him now for fear if I do anything at all he will send me to hell. So I do nothing all day. Hoping if i do nothing i won't mess up and he wont send me there..
Greetings AkanniRose,

First of all, the word of God says multiple times that "the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom." When the angel Gabriel appeared to Mary to tell her of her that God had chosen her to bring the Lord into the world, she sang a song which in part said "His mercy extends to those who fear Him from generation to generation." When you received Christ you were credited with His righteousness and reconciled to God. Since Jesus took upon Himself the wrath that we deserve, the wrath of God no longer rests upon the believer. Therefore, though you know and understand that God is able to destroy both body and soul in everlasting fire, we are confident in His promise that we have eternal life through His Son, Jesus. So, having receive Christ, you can be confident that you have forgiveness of sins and the promise of eternal life, if you continue in faith.

I should also mention I was institutionalized twice last year for fearing the blasphemy of the holy spirit so much that I brokedown. That's where my fear of hell started since it is the unpardonable sin that Jesus WON'T forgive and a one way ticket to hell.
The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is very misunderstood, as though a believer could accidently commit this sin. Below is the scripture regarding what Jesus said in regards to blasphemy against the Spirit:

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One day Jesus was driving out a demon that was mute. And when the demon was gone, the man who had been mute spoke. The crowds were amazed, 15but some of them said, “It is by Beelzebul, the prince of the demons, that He drives out demons.” 16And others tested Him by demanding a sign from heaven.

17Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be laid waste, and a house divided against a house will fall. 18If Satan is divided against himself, how can his kingdom stand? After all, you say that I drive out demons by Beelzebul. 19And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 20But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
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So in the scripture above, the Pharisees and religious leaders said that Jesus was driving out demons by the power of Beelzebul, which is just another title for Satan. But since Jesus was driving out the demons by the Spirit of God, then the religious leaders were committing blaspheme by saying that He was doing it by Satan, saying that He has an unclean spirit.

Therefore, in order for you and any other believer to commit blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, You would have to claim the same thing that the religious leaders did, which is that Jesus was casting out demons by the power of Beelzebul/Satan. This, and this alone is what Jesus identified as the unpardonable sin.

Getting you and other believers to believe and worry that you have committed blasphemy against the Spirit and therefore having no hope, is just another deception by Satan and the powers of darkness. Think about it! What is the bottom line in believing that lie, except for to give up and turn away from the Lord.

The videos say they've seen Christians in hell. "Good" christians. Bible readers evangelizers priests preachers nuns etc for just one sin. And im thinking if Jesus's best of the best are in hell what hope is there for me.
First of all, you need to get away from those YouTube videos and dig into the word of God and trust in what scripture says. And second, if those Good Christians, Bible readers, evangelists, priests, preachers and nuns are in Hades, then they weren't any of those things to begin with. Only unbelievers and the unfaithful will end up condemned in the lake of fire.

And regarding them being in hell "for just one sin" is this supported by scripture? No, it is not! For regarding believers who sin, the word of God says the following:

"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us."

As believers in Christ, our desire is to not sin. But because we still have a sinful nature we are still sinners and fail from time to time. But as the scripture above reassures us, if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. You and all believers are covered by the blood of Christ.

Have faith in His promises
 

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...YouTube videos and they scare me so much.

I should also mention I was institutionalized twice last year for fearing the blasphemy of the holy spirit so much that i brokedown. Thats where my fear of hell started since it is the unpardonable sin that Jesus WON'T forgive and a one way ticket to hell. The videos say they've seen Christians in hell. "Good" christians. Bible readers evangelizers priests preachers nuns etc for just one sin. And im thinking if Jesus's best of the best are in hell what hope is there for me.

Right now originally when I came to Jesus out of thanks and love is gone. I think i follow him now for fear if I do anything at all he will send me to hell. So I do nothing all day. Hoping if i do nothing i won't mess up and he wont send me there..
Hi @AkanniRose, and welcome to CChat.

I'm sorry to hear about all the things that you're struggling with right now!

One thing you might want to consider is a better place than YouTube to get your Christian teaching from. Renewing Your Mind with Dr. R C Sproul would be a good place to start. When the YouTube videos tell you that they've "seen" Christians in Hell, how is that possible for them to do exactly :unsure:

Praying for you!

God bless you! (Philippians 1:6, 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24; Hebrews 7:25)

~Deut
p.s. - you should know that every theologian and pastor I know does not believe the unpardonable sin can be committed today, especially by a Christian. There is, after all, ~no~ condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus .. Romans 8:1, because all of us who are came into possession of "eternal" life from the moment we first believed .. John 3:18, 5:24.




2 Corinthians 5
21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
.
 

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Genesis 15:1 "After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision,
saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward."


Genesis 21:17 "And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called
to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not;
for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is."


Genesis 26:24 "And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said,
I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and
will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake."


Genesis 46:3 "And he said, I am God, the God of thy father: fear not
to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation."


Exodus 20:20 "And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God
is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not."


Deuteronomy 1:21 "Behold, the LORD thy God hath set the land before thee:
go up and possess it, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath said unto thee;
fear not, neither be discouraged."


Deuteronomy 20:3 "And shall say unto them, Hear, O Israel, ye approach this day
unto battle against your enemies: let not your hearts faint, fear not,
and do not tremble, neither be ye terrified because of them."


Deuteronomy 31:6 "Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them:
for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee."


Deuteronomy 31:8 "And the LORD, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee,
he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed."


Joshua 8:1 "And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear not, neither be thou dismayed: take all the people of war with thee, and arise, go up to Ai: see, I have given into thy hand the king of Ai, and his people, and his city, and his land."

Joshua 10:25 "And Joshua said unto them, Fear not, nor be dismayed, be strong
and of good courage: for thus shall the LORD do to all your enemies against whom ye fight."


Judges 6:10 "And I said unto you, I am the LORD your God; fear not the
gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but ye have not obeyed my voice."


Ruth 3:11 "And now, my daughter, fear not; I will do to thee all that thou
requirest: for all the city of my people doth know that thou art a virtuous woman."


I Kings 17:13 "And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but
make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son."


II Kings 6:16 "And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them."

I Chronicles 28:20 "And David said to Solomon his son, Be strong and of good courage, and do it: fear not, nor be dismayed: for the LORD God, even my God, will be with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee, until thou hast finished all the work for the service of the house of the LORD."

II Chronicles 20:17 "Ye shall not need to fight in this battle: set yourselves, stand ye still, and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the LORD will be with you."

Isaiah 35:4 "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold,
your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you."


Isaiah 41:13 "For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand,
saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee."


Isaiah 41:14 "Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel;
I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel."


Isaiah 43:1 "But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and
he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee,
I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine."


Isaiah 43:5 "Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring
thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west."


Isaiah 44:2 "Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb,
which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen."


Isaiah 54:4 "Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more."

Jeremiah 46:27 "But fear not thou, O my servant Jacob, and be not dismayed, O Israel: for, behold, I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and be in rest and at ease, and none shall make him afraid."

Daniel 10:12 "Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words."

Daniel 10:19 "And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me."

Joel 2:21 "Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things."

Zechariah 8:13 "And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong."

Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luke 1:13 "But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer
is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John."


Luke 2:10 "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,
I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."


Luke 5:10 "And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners
with Simon. And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men."


Luke 8:50 "But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying,
Fear not: believe only, and she shall be made whole."


Luke 12:7 "But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows."


Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

John 12:15 "Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt."

Acts 27:24 "Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before
Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail with thee."


Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid
his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last."


 

TabinRivCA

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Welcome to CC and glad you are here. Jesus said 'all the law and prophets hang on these two commandments, 'that you worship the Lord your God with all your heart and that you love your neighbor as you love yourself''. Mt 22:36-40. You need to be filled w/the Word of God, not fears which are the opposite of Faith, God bless!
 

theanointedwinner

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Genesis 15:1 "After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision,
saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward."


Genesis 21:17 "And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called
to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not;
for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is."


Genesis 26:24 "And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said,
I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and
will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake."


Genesis 46:3 "And he said, I am God, the God of thy father: fear not
to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation."


Exodus 20:20 "And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God
is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not."


Deuteronomy 1:21 "Behold, the LORD thy God hath set the land before thee:
go up and possess it, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath said unto thee;
fear not, neither be discouraged."


Deuteronomy 20:3 "And shall say unto them, Hear, O Israel, ye approach this day
unto battle against your enemies: let not your hearts faint, fear not,
and do not tremble, neither be ye terrified because of them."


Deuteronomy 31:6 "Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them:
for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee."


Deuteronomy 31:8 "And the LORD, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee,
he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed."


Joshua 8:1 "And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear not, neither be thou dismayed: take all the people of war with thee, and arise, go up to Ai: see, I have given into thy hand the king of Ai, and his people, and his city, and his land."

Joshua 10:25 "And Joshua said unto them, Fear not, nor be dismayed, be strong
and of good courage: for thus shall the LORD do to all your enemies against whom ye fight."


Judges 6:10 "And I said unto you, I am the LORD your God; fear not the
gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but ye have not obeyed my voice."


Ruth 3:11 "And now, my daughter, fear not; I will do to thee all that thou
requirest: for all the city of my people doth know that thou art a virtuous woman."


I Kings 17:13 "And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but
make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son."


II Kings 6:16 "And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them."

I Chronicles 28:20 "And David said to Solomon his son, Be strong and of good courage, and do it: fear not, nor be dismayed: for the LORD God, even my God, will be with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee, until thou hast finished all the work for the service of the house of the LORD."

II Chronicles 20:17 "Ye shall not need to fight in this battle: set yourselves, stand ye still, and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the LORD will be with you."

Isaiah 35:4 "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold,
your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you."


Isaiah 41:13 "For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand,
saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee."


Isaiah 41:14 "Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel;
I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel."


Isaiah 43:1 "But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and
he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee,
I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine."


Isaiah 43:5 "Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring
thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west."


Isaiah 44:2 "Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb,
which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen."


Isaiah 54:4 "Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more."

Jeremiah 46:27 "But fear not thou, O my servant Jacob, and be not dismayed, O Israel: for, behold, I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and be in rest and at ease, and none shall make him afraid."

Daniel 10:12 "Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words."

Daniel 10:19 "And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me."

Joel 2:21 "Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things."

Zechariah 8:13 "And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong."

Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luke 1:13 "But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer
is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John."


Luke 2:10 "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,
I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people."


Luke 5:10 "And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners
with Simon. And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men."


Luke 8:50 "But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying,
Fear not: believe only, and she shall be made whole."


Luke 12:7 "But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows."


Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

John 12:15 "Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt."

Acts 27:24 "Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before
Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail with thee."


Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid
his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last."


wow, magenta really knows her scripture:love:

the training she went through, even though she had to bang her head on pillows, and pound her fist at the punching back right next to her

the training surely helped her
 

tourist

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Calling the holy spirit evil or a demon. My intrusive thoughts are always blasphemous against the holy spirit that's why I'm afraid
I've gotten mad at God many times and have called Him names but fortunately He understands the human condition quite well, understands who I really am and has forgiven me. God has forgiven you too. "Fear not," says the Lord. I would take that to heart.
 
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Welcome. I am a new member too. I remember when I first started to read my Bible, I had a lot of fear too. It helped me a lot to find Christian people and to go to a Bible based church. I began to see that Jesus was loving, kind, compassionate, and He wants us to trust in Him. I hope you learn from the other members on this site, who can help you find the Truth.