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J0Hnnatcc3

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Hi Bronson, welcome to the site!

A Christian is someone who believes upon Jesus Christ as their one and only savior in sincerity, due to God's Grace. (Romans 10:10-13, John 6:44, John 14:6, Luke 13:24-27, Eph 2:8-9).

There are many denominations, but to be Christian, there must be some non-negotiables:

Jesus is God- Titus 2:13
Jesus rose from the dead!- 1 Corinthians 15
Jesus is the only name- Acts 4:10;12.

I'd encourage you to read for yourself Bronson and pray that God reveal his truths to you, by his Holy Spirit :)
 
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Hi Bronson, welcome to the site!

A Christian is someone who believes upon Jesus Christ as their one and only savior in sincerity, due to God's Grace. (Romans 10:10-13, John 6:44, John 14:6, Luke 13:24-27, Eph 2:8-9).

There are many denominations, but to be Christian, there must be some non-negotiables:

Jesus is God- Titus 2:13
Jesus rose from the dead!- 1 Corinthians 15
Jesus is the only name- Acts 4:10;12.

I'd encourage you to read for yourself Bronson and pray that God reveal his truths to you, by his Holy Spirit :)[/QUOTE

What you say is good advice; however you have different concepts to me, and may I ask....What do you think is in store for Christians?
 

J0Hnnatcc3

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Hi Bronson, welcome to the site!

A Christian is someone who believes upon Jesus Christ as their one and only savior in sincerity, due to God's Grace. (Romans 10:10-13, John 6:44, John 14:6, Luke 13:24-27, Eph 2:8-9).

There are many denominations, but to be Christian, there must be some non-negotiables:

Jesus is God- Titus 2:13
Jesus rose from the dead!- 1 Corinthians 15
Jesus is the only name- Acts 4:10;12.

I'd encourage you to read for yourself Bronson and pray that God reveal his truths to you, by his Holy Spirit :)[/QUOTE

What you say is good advice; however you have different concepts to me, and may I ask....What do you think is in store for Christians?
Oh good.

What concepts do you hold, that are different?

Now I believe there is much in store for the Christian here and now. Here on Earth, we can expect peace that passes understanding, trials, temptation, hope that never fails, fruit of the spirit, persecution and victory in Christ (James 1:2-4, 1Corinthians 10:13, Phi 4:4-7, Rom 5:3-5, Gal 5:22, Rom 8:37-39).

In the life to come, we have great and indescribable things to look forward to. See Rev 21:4; 23, 1Cor 15:50-59, John 16:33 Rom 8:17-18.

Thanks for listening :)
 

Magenta

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I think that when you go up the "person Ladder" and end up with the last person being God, that you have nowhere else to go. You can't have different relationships with the top man on the ladder. If God had 40,000 different interpretations he would not be the top man. The only way God is top man is by having one truth, one set of rules and perfect love from his subjects.

In this scenario, if one does not want to be on the ladder, trying to find God, they will fall off and have to start again.

NOTE: when I say top man, it is in a metaphorical manner.
Only Jesus is perfect. If you have a personal relationship with God through Him you are on the right path. Do you reject having a unique relationship with your Maker? I am not sure I understand your top man analogy. In fact it makes no sense at all to me in light of what I said. Was it supposed to be a response to what I said? Either way, I don't get it. Regardless of how many millions and billions of people understand God in some way, there is only one God. "In essentials, unity." I have a unique relationship with God. It is not the same as your relationship at all, yet there are basic elements the same.
 

Rainrider

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Only Jesus is perfect. If you have a personal relationship with God through Him you are on the right path. Do you reject having a unique relationship with your Maker? I am not sure I understand your top man analogy. In fact it makes no sense at all to me in light of what I said. Was it supposed to be a response to what I said? Either way, I don't get it. Regardless of how many millions and billions of people understand God in some way, there is only one God. "In essentials, unity." I have a unique relationship with God. It is not the same as your relationship at all, yet there are basic elements the same.
One may also look at this in the light of a family. My dayd was the leader of the house, yet as all 7 kids will tell you, he had a different relationship with every one of us. As we all have different needs, HaShem works with us from where we are, and helps us to get to where He wants us to be. He can't lead a man that comes from a life of drugs, or sex, the same way He would someone that comes from a life of knowing Him. In some aspects yes He does lead us down the same road. Yet when you think about the needs of every person, one that comes from a life of violence, most first be shown love. A person that comes from a life full of love, already knows love, and has no need to be shown what it is. Just as a person that came up knowing HaShem, has no need to be shown who He is, yet a person that has never known Him, must first be shown who He is.
 

Magenta

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One may also look at this in the light of a family. My dad was the leader of the house, yet as all 7 kids will tell you, he had a different relationship with every one of us. As we all have different needs, HaShem works with us from where we are, and helps us to get to where He wants us to be. He can't lead a man that comes from a life of drugs, or sex, the same way He would someone that comes from a life of knowing Him. In some aspects yes He does lead us down the same road. Yet when you think about the needs of every person, one that comes from a life of violence, most first be shown love. A person that comes from a life full of love, already knows love, and has no need to be shown what it is. Just as a person that came up knowing HaShem, has no need to be shown who He is, yet a person that has never known Him, must first be shown who He is.
Hello Rainrider, that is how I always picture it also: as a family. I also come from a relatively large family, so maybe it is easier for us to understand it from that perspective. I have seven sisters, but only one that I am very close to, and we each have relationships with all our other siblings, but none of them are identical to the other's relationships, nor were any our relationships or experiences with our parents identical. This does not diminish God in any way but rather exalts Him even more, that He knows each one of us completely, individually, personally, intimately, better than anyone else does, and even better than we could ever know ourselves :)
 

Rainrider

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Hello Rainrider, that is how I always picture it also: as a family. I also come from a relatively large family, so maybe it is easier for us to understand it from that perspective. I have seven sisters, but only one that I am very close to, and we each have relationships with all our other siblings, but none of them are identical to the other's relationships, nor were any our relationships or experiences with our parents identical. This does not diminish God in any way but rather exalts Him even more, that He knows each one of us completely, individually, personally, intimately, better than anyone else does, and even better than we could ever know ourselves :)
Amen. To think that He was incapable of of this, would diminish His Glory.
 
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Oh good.

What concepts do you hold, that are different?

Now I believe there is much in store for the Christian here and now. Here on Earth, we can expect peace that passes understanding, trials, temptation, hope that never fails, fruit of the spirit, persecution and victory in Christ (James 1:2-4, 1Corinthians 10:13, Phi 4:4-7, Rom 5:3-5, Gal 5:22, Rom 8:37-39).

In the life to come, we have great and indescribable things to look forward to. See Rev 21:4; 23, 1Cor 15:50-59, John 16:33 Rom 8:17-18.

Thanks for listening :)
What is different?: Look at the following and tell me what you think it all means.

Fulfillment: The Bible reveals that at his appointed time, God will move the world’s political powers to turn against Babylon the Great and destroy her. They will “make her devastated and naked” and “eat up her fleshy parts.” (Revelation 17:16) In other words, they will expose her shameful character and plunder her immense wealth. Her destruction will be quick and so complete that not a trace of her will remain.—Revelation 18:21.
The political rulers may think that their deed was of their own making. However, the fulfillment of this amazing prophecy will confirm that Babylon’s end was an act of God. He will have “put it into their hearts to carry out his thought.”—Revelation 17:17
 

J0Hnnatcc3

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What is different?: Look at the following and tell me what you think it all means.

Fulfillment: The Bible reveals that at his appointed time, God will move the world’s political powers to turn against Babylon the Great and destroy her. They will “make her devastated and naked” and “eat up her fleshy parts.” (Revelation 17:16) In other words, they will expose her shameful character and plunder her immense wealth. Her destruction will be quick and so complete that not a trace of her will remain.—Revelation 18:21.
The political rulers may think that their deed was of their own making. However, the fulfillment of this amazing prophecy will confirm that Babylon’s end was an act of God. He will have “put it into their hearts to carry out his thought.”—Revelation 17:17
Honestly, I'm not sure. However, I am in a really good Bible study for Revelations right now :).

If we only differ on a few non essential doctrines, I think we have much more in common than you may think.
 
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The revelation of John was not completed until about 96 CE, thus one should be able to logically believe that the Revelation was about things that were yet to happen. (If you do not believe this, stop reading now)

Revelations talks about a wild Beast with 10 heads, ad about a harlot that rode on the back of this beast. The part about political powers given the thought, by God, to turn on the harlot (That had ridden on the back of the beast) has not yet happened. I refers to the time when the United Nations, the only political power of the world that could bring about this event, will turn on all religion, taking their property and assets (eating their fleshy parts) and totally destroying the "Harlot".

The harlot that has ridden on the back of the dragon: Ask yourself, has religion used the political power of man to enforce its own agenda?

Once this event is enacted it will be like the times of Noah's flood. The door of the ark will be closed before the beginning of the end of the wicked world.

Who are you studying with?
 
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[h=3]Bible prophecy fulfilled[/h] Consider how the United Nations and its predecessor, the League of Nations, have fulfilled the Bible’s prophecy of the scarlet-colored beast.

  1. A political entity. The United Nations supports the political system by upholding “the sovereign equality of all its Members.” *
  2. A likeness of the worldwide political system. In 2011, the United Nations added its 193rd member state. Thus, it claims to represent the vast majority of nations and peoples in the world.
  3. Power from other rulerships. The United Nations owes its existence to its member nations and has only as much power and authority as they grant to it.
  4. Linked with religion. Both the League of Nations and the United Nations have consistently received the backing of the world’s religions. *
  5. Dishonors God. The United Nations was established “to maintain international peace and security.” * While this goal might seem to be praiseworthy, the UN actually dishonors God by claiming to do what he has said only his Kingdom will accomplish.—Psalm 46:9; Daniel 2:44.
  6. Temporarily inactive. The League of Nations, which was formed shortly after World War I to maintain peace, was unable to prevent international aggression. It ceased to function when World War II began in 1939. In 1945, after World War II ended, the United Nations was formed. Its purposes, methods, and structure closely resemble those of the League of Nations.
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I get to thinking, that is my problem, and one of the things I think about is the audacity of us humans. Many humans believe in a god of some sort, it is a part of human nature to do so, even King Solomon, the wisest man of all time built a false god even after having a close relationship with the Almighty

Over 44,000 humans since have built themselves a false god and have had the criminal audacity to call that god the one and only.

Hands up, anyone that thinks that the True, the Alpha and the Omega, the one and only creator, the Almighty God would build this perfect earth (It is perfect) and let imperfect man destroy this creation. Hands up, anyone that thinks that the man that sinned and started all the rot we have today has stopped God from his original purpose. Just look at the original purpose and think how wonderful it would be if that was still in place...well it is and the Bible scriptures state that very fact in many places.

Don't become full of anxiety about man destroying the earth in a massive nuclear war, God has said that "Man may depart, but the earth lasts forever.' The Bible assures us: “Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.” (Ecclesiastes 1:4, New International Version)

That is the case, that is Gods purpose and he has no need for a heavenly realm full of goodies nor dose He have a reason to supply his mortal enemy with a load of baddies in a place called hell. Think People, use the logic, the ability to reason that you were created with.

Of course, you can always put the money in the box and accept the jargon of the clergy.

God's word is like a set of building blocks, once you get them in place they all make sense.

The door of the ark will soon close, the great tribulation will soon come about and then the end of wickedness will occur.....NAH! Not possible hey, Your pastor tells you so.

when God, the one adn only God, decides, he will rid the earth of the wicked, just as he did in Noah's time
 
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Mekaren999

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I have problems with people just because I am Christian. I need to talk to other Christians.
 
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The Christian ethic is being eroded every day. Satan, and I believe this very much, is out an about turning the minds of humans away from the True God.

In this country there is a strong push for the government of the day to legalize the rite of marriage for homosexuals. It is smoothed over by calling it same sex marriage, maybe because there is nothing about same sex marriage in the Bible; however there is a denunciation of homosexuality.

IMO governments should have no part in dealing with the religious morals of people, and in fact on this I would ask, How many virgin homosexuals are out there waiting for the said legislation to be applied so that they can morally consummate that marriage? MY own answer is NONE, they are already in a homosexual relationship and this push is only another of the pushes that are put forward because "they can".

These type of movements from minority groups are not based on Christian ethic or morals, even if the participants are backed by some clergy and politicians that want to be popular.

Australia is being asked to vote on this homosexual marriage situation, the Australian Constitution says that one cannot discriminate against anther’s religious preference, So, if a group votes yes they are against the oppositions sexual preference and if they vote No they are against the sexual preference of the others. We will be forced into disobeying the laws of the constitution.

It will get worse!!!!!
 
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willfollowsGod

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I have problems with people just because I am Christian. I need to talk to other Christians.
I think I know what she is referring to. Even Jesus warns about that and the intolerance against Christians is increasing in these days.
 

willfollowsGod

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Welcome to Christian Chat, Bronson. God bless. :)
 
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Maybe because it is very difficult to pick who is a Christian, or at least trying to be Christ like and who is following the erroneous dictates of Christendom.

One has to shed all semblance of paganism to start with. The shame of immorality is not stressed enough in the Churches, it is an enormous conflict to have a homosexual Bishop telling the congregation how to live by the instructions of Jesus.

Intolerance is against Christians and it will get more so as man continues to be lovers of money and not lovers of God. Russia has now banned a religious order from congregating or from their own worship and confiscated the organizations buildings and assets. The Court saw and heard where Russian agents planted controversial material in the halls of this religion and used it as evidence, which the court blindly accepted from the prosecution. The appeal failed before it got a hearing.

When I say things here I am not condemning persons, the Bible does not condemn individual people but it does condemn certain practices, so if I say something about homosexuality I do not select one person or group, I simply state the Biblical concept of the Act of homosexuality.
 

J0Hnnatcc3

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The revelation of John was not completed until about 96 CE, thus one should be able to logically believe that the Revelation was about things that were yet to happen. (If you do not believe this, stop reading now)

Revelations talks about a wild Beast with 10 heads, ad about a harlot that rode on the back of this beast. The part about political powers given the thought, by God, to turn on the harlot (That had ridden on the back of the beast) has not yet happened. I refers to the time when the United Nations, the only political power of the world that could bring about this event, will turn on all religion, taking their property and assets (eating their fleshy parts) and totally destroying the "Harlot".

The harlot that has ridden on the back of the dragon: Ask yourself, has religion used the political power of man to enforce its own agenda?

Once this event is enacted it will be like the times of Noah's flood. The door of the ark will be closed before the beginning of the end of the wicked world.

Who are you studying with?
Watching David Platt's Revelation study right now. You can YouTube it if you want (just a heads-up​, it is lengthy).
 

J0Hnnatcc3

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I have problems with people just because I am Christian. I need to talk to other Christians.
Hi Karen welcome to Christian Chat! You came to a good place to talk with other Christians. I believe you will be glad you joined :)