Alex Jones from InfoWars on BBC: appears to be a madman
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I'm not sticking up for him because frankly, I think he goes way overboard, (to the detrement of actual truth seekers).
- -But anyway, in this case I think he was talking about the plastic lining - 'Bisphenol A',
which all of the plastic containers are made out of.
Look into it if you care to.
There are many different types of plastic compounds to make drinking containers out of,
why are they all Bisphenal A?
Here's one: Bisphenol A Health Effects - What are the Potential Health Effects of Bisphenol A?
Here's another: HowStuffWorks "What's BPA, and do I really need a new water bottle?"
It's quite well known by now that there are health risks associated with it. - (I could have listed dozens of other sites)
- -But anyway, in this case I think he was talking about the plastic lining - 'Bisphenol A',
which all of the plastic containers are made out of.
Look into it if you care to.
There are many different types of plastic compounds to make drinking containers out of,
why are they all Bisphenal A?
Here's one: Bisphenol A Health Effects - What are the Potential Health Effects of Bisphenol A?
Here's another: HowStuffWorks "What's BPA, and do I really need a new water bottle?"
It's quite well known by now that there are health risks associated with it. - (I could have listed dozens of other sites)
R
well i guess you don't realize that live reporting is one of the least reliable kinds...
when you are reporting live...numerous reports will come in...with little or no time for verification...and some of those reports may be mentioned on the air...
the reporter even begins by saying 'details are very very sketchy'...
firefighters had already noticed a bulge on the corner of the building around 2:00 PM that indicated that the building was getting close to collapse...it isn't very hard to suppose that someone misunderstood a report about the building's imminent collapse and made an error...
certainly it makes more sense than 'BBC got something wrong so there must have been a massive conspiracy to blow up the building'
when you are reporting live...numerous reports will come in...with little or no time for verification...and some of those reports may be mentioned on the air...
the reporter even begins by saying 'details are very very sketchy'...
firefighters had already noticed a bulge on the corner of the building around 2:00 PM that indicated that the building was getting close to collapse...it isn't very hard to suppose that someone misunderstood a report about the building's imminent collapse and made an error...
certainly it makes more sense than 'BBC got something wrong so there must have been a massive conspiracy to blow up the building'
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actually you made a claim and gave me a link to a report that on closer examination didn't support your claim...maybe you misunderstood the report...
'pulling' a building means to pull it down with cables as i showed by that video...it doesn't mean 'blow it up'
since they obviously -didn't- pull 7 WTC down with cables...obviously they meant something other than demolition when they said 'pull'...namely pulling the firefighting teams that were in the area...
"Around 3:30 pm FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel."
7 World Trade Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
your idea that silverstein made a 'mistake' and accidentally spilled the beans on national television is absurd...they are smart enough to set this whole thing up but they can't go without accidentally breaking the first rule of fight club? you can't in the same theory argue for both highly organized deviousness -and- mind boggling incompetence...
and for that matter there would have been no reason to deliberately destroy 7 WTC in the first place...if the 9/11 attacks were 'false flag' operations then the destruction of the twin towers would have had more than enough propagandistic power...there would have been no need to blow up a building most americans hadn't even heard of...
the controlled demolition fairy tale doesn't just lack supporting evidence...it blatantly goes against common sense...
'pulling' a building means to pull it down with cables as i showed by that video...it doesn't mean 'blow it up'
since they obviously -didn't- pull 7 WTC down with cables...obviously they meant something other than demolition when they said 'pull'...namely pulling the firefighting teams that were in the area...
"Around 3:30 pm FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel."
7 World Trade Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
your idea that silverstein made a 'mistake' and accidentally spilled the beans on national television is absurd...they are smart enough to set this whole thing up but they can't go without accidentally breaking the first rule of fight club? you can't in the same theory argue for both highly organized deviousness -and- mind boggling incompetence...
and for that matter there would have been no reason to deliberately destroy 7 WTC in the first place...if the 9/11 attacks were 'false flag' operations then the destruction of the twin towers would have had more than enough propagandistic power...there would have been no need to blow up a building most americans hadn't even heard of...
the controlled demolition fairy tale doesn't just lack supporting evidence...it blatantly goes against common sense...
Rachael,
You know me well enough to know if I agree with zone, it must be true. Do you know what was in building 7? Do you know what important documents were destroyed in it? I saw tons of video footage on all 3 buildings...... way past my minimum requirements to convince me..... and I'm a critic at heart. It was set up. Even the EPA covered up the multiple carcinogens that emergency workers & cleanup crew members died from inhaling it. They cleared the area to be cleaned when they knew that it existed.
You know me well enough to know if I agree with zone, it must be true. Do you know what was in building 7? Do you know what important documents were destroyed in it? I saw tons of video footage on all 3 buildings...... way past my minimum requirements to convince me..... and I'm a critic at heart. It was set up. Even the EPA covered up the multiple carcinogens that emergency workers & cleanup crew members died from inhaling it. They cleared the area to be cleaned when they knew that it existed.
just for fun (since we're just playing, you and i.....you're official version, i'm not - that's cool):
Oh look!
what a COINCIDENCE - a drill the very day of 9-11.
it went live.
Out of a range of scenarios being run on September 11, 2001, one was a "traditional" simulated hijacking.[6] According to General Eberhart, after the first attack, "it took about 30 seconds" to make the adjustment to the real-world situation.[7]
United States government operations and exercises on September 11, 2001 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
hahahahaha.....mkay sure
Oh look!
what a COINCIDENCE - a drill the very day of 9-11.
it went live.
Out of a range of scenarios being run on September 11, 2001, one was a "traditional" simulated hijacking.[6] According to General Eberhart, after the first attack, "it took about 30 seconds" to make the adjustment to the real-world situation.[7]
United States government operations and exercises on September 11, 2001 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
hahahahaha.....mkay sure
LOL what?
it was a huge operation - whether you figure it was muslims or an inside job.
they made a TON of blunders. they're found everywhere, but if one refuses to look, what can be said?
that's how they get away with it. the majority refuses to consider.
the minority is written off as kooks.
and they did stuff that should have outraged the nation immediately.
like barging up the debris FROM A CRIME SCENE and shipping it to Jersey then off to CHINA and India!
...
Some 185,101 tons of structural steel have been hauled away from Ground Zero. Most of the steel has been recycled as per the city's decision to swiftly send the wreckage to salvage yards in New Jersey. The city's hasty move has outraged many victims' families who believe the steel should have been examined more thoroughly. Last month, fire experts told Congress that about 80% of the steel was scrapped without being examined because investigators did not have the authority to preserve the wreckage
1. , N.Y. Daily News, 4/16/02
Mayor Bloomberg, a former engineering major, was not concerned about the destruction of the evidence:
"If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that's in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn't tell you anything"
- Baosteel Will Recycle World Trade Center Debris, eastday.com, 1/24/02
Given that the people in charge considered the steel garbage, useless to any investigation in this age of computer simulations, they certainly took pains to make sure it didn't end up anywhere other than a smelting furnace. They installed GPS locater devices on each of the trucks that was carrying loads away from Ground Zero, at a cost of $1000 each. The securitysolutions.com website has an article on the tracking system with this passage.
Ninety-nine percent of the drivers were extremely driven to do their jobs. But there were big concerns, because the loads consisted of highly sensitive material. One driver, for example, took an extended lunch break of an hour and a half. There was nothing criminal about that, but he was dismissed.
- GPS on the Job in Massive World Trade Center Clean-up, securitysolutions.com, 7/1/2002
Shielding Investigators From the Evidence
According to FEMA, more than 350,000 tons of steel were extracted from Ground Zero and barged or trucked to salvage yards where it was cut up for recycling. Four salvage yards were contracted to process the steel.
Hugo Nue Schnitzer at Fresh Kills (FK) Landfill, Staten Island, NJ
Hugo Nue Schnitzer's Claremont (CM) Terminal in Jersey City, NJ
Metal Management in Newark (NW), NJ
Blanford and Co. in Keasbey (KB), NJ
FEMA's BPAT, who wrote the WTC Building Performance Study, were not given access to Ground Zero. Apparently, they were not even allowed to collect steel samples from the salvage yards. According to Appendix D of the Study:
Collection and storage of steel members from the WTC site was not part of the BPS Team efforts sponsored by FEMA and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE).
9-11 research.com
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securitysolutions.com
it was a huge operation - whether you figure it was muslims or an inside job.
they made a TON of blunders. they're found everywhere, but if one refuses to look, what can be said?
that's how they get away with it. the majority refuses to consider.
the minority is written off as kooks.
and they did stuff that should have outraged the nation immediately.
like barging up the debris FROM A CRIME SCENE and shipping it to Jersey then off to CHINA and India!
...
Some 185,101 tons of structural steel have been hauled away from Ground Zero. Most of the steel has been recycled as per the city's decision to swiftly send the wreckage to salvage yards in New Jersey. The city's hasty move has outraged many victims' families who believe the steel should have been examined more thoroughly. Last month, fire experts told Congress that about 80% of the steel was scrapped without being examined because investigators did not have the authority to preserve the wreckage
1. , N.Y. Daily News, 4/16/02
Mayor Bloomberg, a former engineering major, was not concerned about the destruction of the evidence:
"If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that's in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn't tell you anything"
- Baosteel Will Recycle World Trade Center Debris, eastday.com, 1/24/02
Given that the people in charge considered the steel garbage, useless to any investigation in this age of computer simulations, they certainly took pains to make sure it didn't end up anywhere other than a smelting furnace. They installed GPS locater devices on each of the trucks that was carrying loads away from Ground Zero, at a cost of $1000 each. The securitysolutions.com website has an article on the tracking system with this passage.
Ninety-nine percent of the drivers were extremely driven to do their jobs. But there were big concerns, because the loads consisted of highly sensitive material. One driver, for example, took an extended lunch break of an hour and a half. There was nothing criminal about that, but he was dismissed.
- GPS on the Job in Massive World Trade Center Clean-up, securitysolutions.com, 7/1/2002
Shielding Investigators From the Evidence
According to FEMA, more than 350,000 tons of steel were extracted from Ground Zero and barged or trucked to salvage yards where it was cut up for recycling. Four salvage yards were contracted to process the steel.
Hugo Nue Schnitzer at Fresh Kills (FK) Landfill, Staten Island, NJ
Hugo Nue Schnitzer's Claremont (CM) Terminal in Jersey City, NJ
Metal Management in Newark (NW), NJ
Blanford and Co. in Keasbey (KB), NJ
FEMA's BPAT, who wrote the WTC Building Performance Study, were not given access to Ground Zero. Apparently, they were not even allowed to collect steel samples from the salvage yards. According to Appendix D of the Study:
Collection and storage of steel members from the WTC site was not part of the BPS Team efforts sponsored by FEMA and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE).
9-11 research.com
....
securitysolutions.com
9/11 Security
Courtesy of Marvin Bush
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."
Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.
The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves.
Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized.
As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]
A heightened WTC security alert was lifted on 9/6/2001...
The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY Newsday]
...there was a power down in WTC 2 the weekend before 9/11...
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]
.Bush's cousin had a fortunate change of venue for a September 11 business conference...
President Bush's cousin should have been in the World Trade Centre when it was attacked. Jim Pierce, managing director of AON Corporations, had arranged a business conference on the 105th floor of the South Tower where its New York offices were based. But his group was too large so they decided to move across the street to the Millennium Hotel. [Annova]
...and it just so happens that Marvin Bush was in New York on 9/11.
Both WTC 6 and WTC 7 were evacuated within minutes of Flight 11 striking WTC 1, but this did not happen in the twin towers. There were no evacuation announcements in WTC 1 following the plane strike, and workers were encouraged to stay in their building...
9/11 Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush
coincidence.
nuthin' to see here. move along.
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
Courtesy of Marvin Bush
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."
Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.
The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves.
Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized.
As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]
A heightened WTC security alert was lifted on 9/6/2001...
The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY Newsday]
...there was a power down in WTC 2 the weekend before 9/11...
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]
.Bush's cousin had a fortunate change of venue for a September 11 business conference...
President Bush's cousin should have been in the World Trade Centre when it was attacked. Jim Pierce, managing director of AON Corporations, had arranged a business conference on the 105th floor of the South Tower where its New York offices were based. But his group was too large so they decided to move across the street to the Millennium Hotel. [Annova]
...and it just so happens that Marvin Bush was in New York on 9/11.
Both WTC 6 and WTC 7 were evacuated within minutes of Flight 11 striking WTC 1, but this did not happen in the twin towers. There were no evacuation announcements in WTC 1 following the plane strike, and workers were encouraged to stay in their building...
9/11 Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush
coincidence.
nuthin' to see here. move along.
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
and that's why he is funded and promoted as he is.
he's doing his job.
he is supposedly the freedom party; truther leader; conspiracy king......he tells a TON of truth.....then gets wild-eyed and rants, discrediting everybody.
most know this about him.
the give-away that he's a gatekeeper is that he never says WHO the perps are.
he says NWO; Illuminati; elite...etc etc....
he likes to blame NAZIS a lot.
he's doing his job.
he is supposedly the freedom party; truther leader; conspiracy king......he tells a TON of truth.....then gets wild-eyed and rants, discrediting everybody.
most know this about him.
the give-away that he's a gatekeeper is that he never says WHO the perps are.
he says NWO; Illuminati; elite...etc etc....
he likes to blame NAZIS a lot.
G
You also weren't aware that
Not to mention the source, never was verified.
- It makes no sense that the perpetrators would do something so obvious as powering down half of a tower so shortly before the attack. This would create a profound disruption of business for dozens of companies, and would be noticed by thousands of people. Thousands of e-mails would have been broadcast and a great deal of work would have been done by scores of employees to prepare for the outage.
- It makes less sense that they would take such a drastic action but only for one half of one tower. Why was the disruption only necessary for the upper floors of the South Tower, or how would similar power-downs of the other sections have gone unnoticed?
- Powering down for cabling upgrades is laughable as a cover story for demolition preparation work. Cabling upgrades for data bandwidth do not require interrupting AC power at all. Even if the AC wiring were being upgraded, the new wiring would have been installed and powered up in parallel with the old wiring. Any interruptions would be minimized to a few minutes. Powering down large portions of a tower, and for 36 hours, would have generated numerous protests from tenants.
- Contrary to the e-mail's assertion, security cameras are designed to use independent uninterruptible power supplies. If power to the security systems were interrupted, many doors would remain unopenable except by key.
Not to mention the source, never was verified.
ahem
911myths.com goes further to debunk the Marvin Bush claim.
Bush’s company, Securacom (later called Stratesec), did have a contract to help install security systems in the WTC after the 1993 bombing. This contract ended in 1998 according the company’s SEC filings. Bush left the company in 2000, and despite claims to the contrary, there is no evidence that Wirt Walker, the firm’s current head, is a Bush relative. Even if Bush’s company had been actively working at the WTC on 9/11, it would be irrelevant since the towers were attacked from the outside by airliners. Additionally, the mere presence of a Bush family member is not evidence of any crime or conspiracy.
LOLOLOLOL
that's the best counter your side has.
okay
coincidence.
and okay.
they didn't work on it for THREE YEARS in advance.
and the bushes aren't gangsters.