Is historicism the breeding ground for seventh day adventist failed prophecy?

I did a search on the historicist eschatological perspective and Seventh Day Adventism.
There appears to be a link between the two.
Historicism may be the breeding ground for SDA prophetic error/heresy.


Does historicism stop just before it gives way to SDA like tendencies?

Below are sources which link historicism to Seventh Day Adventism.

12.4. Historicist Interpretation Commentary - A Testimony of Jesus Christ

http://www.atsjats.org/publication_file.php?pub_id=25=1=pdf

The Thomas Ice Collection

Historicism

https://adventistbiblicalresearch.org/sites/default/files/pdf/year-day principle.pdf

The Pope Invented Futurist Prophecy?

Here is more.

https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/2005/09/the-heart-of-historicism.html

https://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/pt-br/node/286

The heretical sect known as Millerites used the historicist perspective as foundation for their failed prophecies.

https://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/pt-br/node/286

What failed prophecies are you referring to?

wait....what?

so....the pope invented futurism (which often pegs him as The Antichrist)....to deflect away from the fact that he is The Antichrist?

i know there's jesuit wazziz face's name thrown around...by the Islam-Is-The-Antichrist crowd.

hmm....welp, i have some things on SDA that might help.
it came over from the little square mile.

super-cool Still: some links i ain't seen before.
i just looooooooooove readin'


lol....amazing.

ya know, this is ringin' a little bell.
i think i've noticed a common denominator on most of the sites that trumpet: Preterism is Jesuit Heresy type-thing.
yay...a project.

on to the stack.






O time, why you so short.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 1still_waters again.
And no matter how many times you give it to him it stays at 10.
Which is a good indication there's a jesuit at the levers.
10 is a prophetic number.
maybe.

just wondering out loud here why it is that all these systems have (at least) one thing in common

i mean deflector-wise....they all get bent out of shape when 1st century Jerusalem is identified as the Great Harlot.

My thread title may be inaccurate.

But if anything, Seventh Day Adventists have been drawing from the well of Historicism to get their eschatology. Which means the Millerites and David Koresh can trace their twisted views back to those roots too, considering they were associated with the SDA to an extent.

I always thought Historicism and SDA eschatology sounded alike at many points.

But some may ask why some views put a certain talmudic religion as the spider in so many wrongs in the world.

Kinda goes both ways.

one can be proven.
the other can not.

seems to me because the day-year principle means you can jump right past the period in question.

Daniels toes are made to be something they are not....more on this...

But don't you/me/others interpret Daniel 9 with day to year principle too?

Lao, ignoring for the moment Ellen White`s ideas about The Investigative Judgment (Christ began investigating and judging His people in 1844) and such for now....


Revelation 13:11
Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.

SDA says this the USA, right

not the day = 1,000 year principle.
Daniel is clear its 70 7s.
1 week = 1 year.
so its a week is a year...not a day = a year.

gotcha……….

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oops...one week = 7 years.

tsk...

so the day year principle in Daniel is a literal day year principle, specific to Daniel there.

i think we can get kerfuzzeled over the prior 70 years - the 70 years they were sent away...jeremiah`s 70 years, that daniel understood and got him wondering what would happen when it came to an end.

one day = one year.
one week (7 days ) = 7 years.

nuthin bout any 1 day = 1,000 years.

its that a thousand years thing again.
i think the SDA take the thousand year-day thing from Rev and Daniel: (Lao can confirm i reckon)

Daniel 12
11"From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12"How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! 13"But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age."

where here the days are actual literal days
thats about the jewish-roman wars and stuff.

all skipped right over. gapped out.

this laptop is dumb...time to get the smart phone.

Just about anything that came out of Ellens mouth, if we look at it from a critical and scriptural point of view.

this one day = 1000 years thing is wrong, and there's one of the common denominators - the (future non-existent) Millennium.
he-e-e-e-e-ey....it's all connected to one error - that the Messianic Age didn't come with Jesus at the First Advent

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from a Hebrew Roots site: (Eddie Chumney - Last Updated: January 3, 1997)

"Understand the names of the different ages of the 7,000 year time frame

-- Olam Haba = World to Come
-- Olam Hazeh = The Present Age/World
-- Athid Lavo = The Future Age/Coming
-- Yemot Mashiach = The Days of the Messiah "

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Olam Hazeh ---> The present age
Athid Lavo ---> The future age (coming) ---> The 1,000 year millennium
Olam Haba ---> The world to come

Bible Prophecy / The 7,000 Year Plan of God / Prophetic Timetable

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oops...see how that 1,000 mystery kingdom millennium gap ended up in there?