FLAT EARTH

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tourist

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NASA tells you that any object with mass can attract another object.
I think that it was Isaac Newton that came up with that theory when an apple fell from a tree and hit him on the head. Galileo developed the first round-earth model based on his astronomical observations. Maybe his lens was dirty. His theory was not well received, that's for sure.
 
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pckts

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it isn't that is wasn't necesary until then it is that it wasn't understood. gravity doesn't only pull down it also pulls towards and the mass of something depends on how fast it falls down and how fast it is pulled towards. and no matter how we reason or rationalize it the law of gravity remains the sames, if the earth is flat then it will have much less mass and the only way it wouldn't be pulled into the moon or sun is if the moon and sun was flat too but then you would have to assume everything in the universe was flat or else whatever is closest to the sun and moon would simply pull them and the earth towards it.
Do you understand that on the flat earth model the sun and moon are not the same size and do not have the same mass as the sun and moon on the globe model? Are you aware that different models do not have to function and have the same values as one another?

The sun and moon have less mass than the earth on the flat earth model, because they are both dwarfed in size by the earth on the flat earth model.

Not only do you continue to apply parts of the globe model directly to a separate model, but you also fail to understand the force known as gravity has a different explanation and source on the flat earth model. I do not think you are making these mistakes on purpose or to confuse the argument, you are just confused yourself.

Sun and moon are not the same size and mass on the flat earth model. Gravity does not apply to the flat earth model, the force you know as gravity applies, but it has a different explanation and source on the flat earth model. Hope you get it this time because it's been restated many times.
 
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pckts

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#63
you can call it a different name but it is still the same thing and still functions the same way. I can call the mass of the earth pancakes and the gravitation pull of the sun apples but it still functions as it was designed. it doesn't matter what you call it or how you think it works the fact is if the earth is flat the we would be in the sun right now.
No it does not "still function the same way". It functions on the globe model by the mass of any object creating a pull toward it. On the flat earth model this force is not a result of the giant mass of objects pulling other objects toward them.

The force on one model does not have to have the same explanation on a separate model. You really can't grasp this concept? It's not harder than sarcasm, but the two are difficult to compare.:confused:
 
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Seedz

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#64
I think that it was Isaac Newton that came up with that theory when an apple fell from a tree and hit him on the head. Galileo developed the first round-earth model based on his astronomical observations. Maybe his lens was dirty. His theory was not well received, that's for sure.

The whole relation of object size to gravitational pull is still used today. That is the theory of gravity in a nutshell.

That's why they always like to fantasize about how much one would weigh in Jupiter, or in the moon.....


LOL.
 

Blain

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Do you understand that on the flat earth model the sun and moon are not the same size and do not have the same mass as the sun and moon on the globe model? Are you aware that different models do not have to function and have the same values as one another?

The sun and moon have less mass than the earth on the flat earth model, because they are both dwarfed in size by the earth on the flat earth model.

Not only do you continue to apply parts of the globe model directly to a separate model, but you also fail to understand the force known as gravity has a different explanation and source on the flat earth model. I do not think you are making these mistakes on purpose or to confuse the argument, you are just confused yourself.

Sun and moon are not the same size and mass on the flat earth model. Gravity does not apply to the flat earth model, the force you know as gravity applies, but it has a different explanation and source on the flat earth model. Hope you get it this time because it's been restated many times.
you know using a different model doesn't make it right, I can make a model of my hand with twelve fingers and hooks at the end of every finger but that doesn't change the fact that I have only five fingers and no hooks.
your using a model that may be able to change how things function in theory however that doesn't mean your model is not fantasy. I have studied science and I have always been fascinated by outer space I have a grasp and understanding at leats to a point how these things work and that is what I base my reason on not any model of a flat or sphere model I am considering how gravity works in general and how mass and the intensity of the force of both of those things apply to everything not just the earth and moon and sun.

even if the earth was flat the reality of gravity would still be in affect as long as there is something with even a slight stronger gravitational pull than the amount of mass a flat earth has the earth will be pulled towards it. if gravity was non existant then they flat earth would not be affected. your flat earth theories worst enemy is the reality of gravity not the model your using
 

tourist

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The whole relation of object size to gravitational pull is still used today. That is the theory of gravity in a nutshell.

That's why they always like to fantasize about how much one would weigh in Jupiter, or in the moon.....


LOL.
Maybe I should relocate to Jupiter as I'm underweight. Living on the moon would be problematic.
 
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Seedz

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you know using a different model doesn't make it right, I can make a model of my hand with twelve fingers and hooks at the end of every finger but that doesn't change the fact that I have only five fingers and no hooks.
your using a model that may be able to change how things function in theory however that doesn't mean your model is not fantasy. I have studied science and I have always been fascinated by outer space I have a grasp and understanding at leats to a point how these things work and that is what I base my reason on not any model of a flat or sphere model I am considering how gravity works in general and how mass and the intensity of the force of both of those things apply to everything not just the earth and moon and sun.

even if the earth was flat the reality of gravity would still be in affect as long as there is something with even a slight stronger gravitational pull than the amount of mass a flat earth has the earth will be pulled towards it. if gravity was non existant then they flat earth would not be affected. your flat earth theories worst enemy is the reality of gravity not the model your using
Remind me again where you got all of the space info and theories from?

The difference between a glober and a flatty is that flatties are capable of critical thinking, and globers just believe what the mainstream says without questioning or checking the math or sources for themselves.


Now go outside and look around you... It may surprise you.
 

Blain

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Remind me again where you got all of the space info and theories from?

The difference between a glober and a flatty is that flatties are capable of critical thinking, and globers just believe what the mainstream says without questioning or checking the math or sources for themselves.


Now go outside and look around you... It may surprise you.
Where did I get from? science class, videos articles my favorite book 1,000 facts about space studying the functions of gravity by testing them with objects watching documentories and testing everything I learn and read by any way I can and learning how the world and the universe functions as a whole not just things about gravity and space.

I don't simply believe whatever I am told I find the truth for myself by any means possible, what you call critical thinking is not critical thinking I have studied all of these things and I have used them in the real world. for instance there is this game my aunt has she has a pole and there is a hook attached on the side of it and a string is tied to the top of the pole and on that bottom of that string is a loop made of iron the point of the game is to pull the ring all the way back from a distance from and pole and try to get the ring on the hook.

Now using my understanding of gravity and how the distance and the pressure applied to the force of releasing the ring from a distance I moved back a certain distance I aimed and very gently released the ring from my hand and the amount of pressure that was from the release made the ring land gently into the hook almost perfectly I did this six times in a row and my aunt my amazed because she has never once succeeded on this.

So no I do not simply take what the media tells me and believe it I find the truth out for myself
 
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pckts

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you know using a different model doesn't make it right, I can make a model of my hand with twelve fingers and hooks at the end of every finger but that doesn't change the fact that I have only five fingers and no hooks.
your using a model that may be able to change how things function in theory however that doesn't mean your model is not fantasy. I have studied science and I have always been fascinated by outer space I have a grasp and understanding at leats to a point how these things work and that is what I base my reason on not any model of a flat or sphere model I am considering how gravity works in general and how mass and the intensity of the force of both of those things apply to everything not just the earth and moon and sun.

even if the earth was flat the reality of gravity would still be in affect as long as there is something with even a slight stronger gravitational pull than the amount of mass a flat earth has the earth will be pulled towards it. if gravity was non existant then they flat earth would not be affected. your flat earth theories worst enemy is the reality of gravity not the model your using
We can't really discuss this because you don't understand what a different model is conceptually, let alone begin to understand a flat model.

Do you at least understand the sun and moon are not the same size and mass on the flat model? it sounds like you think they are the same size on the flat model as they are on the globe model. This shows a complete lack of understanding of the concept of a different model. You keep arguing how the flat model doesn't function when you apply parts from the globe model to it. The flat model doesn't claim these parts are a part of it, the only person doing this is you.

it isn't that is wasn't necesary until then it is that it wasn't understood. gravity doesn't only pull down it also pulls towards and the mass of something depends on how fast it falls down and how fast it is pulled towards. and no matter how we reason or rationalize it the law of gravity remains the sames, if the earth is flat then it will have much less mass and the only way it wouldn't be pulled into the moon or sun is if the moon and sun was flat too but then you would have to assume everything in the universe was flat or else whatever is closest to the sun and moon would simply pull them and the earth towards it.
 

tourist

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Remind me again where you got all of the space info and theories from?

The difference between a glober and a flatty is that flatties are capable of critical thinking, and globers just believe what the mainstream says without questioning or checking the math or sources for themselves.


Now go outside and look around you... It may surprise you.
I like that term you coined, 'glober'. Change the 'l' and add an 'o' and you have goober. Now, that's really funny. Now, drop the 'l' in flatty and you have fatty. I think that I would rather be a goober. :)
 

Blain

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I like that term you coined, 'glober'. Change the 'l' and add an 'o' and you have goober. Now, that's really funny. Now, drop the 'l' in flatty and you have fatty. I think that I would rather be a goober. :)
then this my friend is for you;) [video=youtube;YCPDVVLUw-4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCPDVVLUw-4[/video]
 

tourist

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then this my friend is for you;) [video=youtube;YCPDVVLUw-4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCPDVVLUw-4[/video]
I just played the video and thought it was wild. I always like Sponge Bob. He has square pants.
 
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pckts

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Oh...I'm in this corner of CC again, aren't I...?
One of the munchkins is hanging dead on a noose in the background of the Wizard of Oz (digitally removed in the re-release). The Mars rover missions are faked on Devon Island. The Titanic never sunk, it was its sister ship The Olympic for an insurance scam. Forrest Gump actually says "Like WAS like a box of chocolates".
 
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joefizz

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#76
One of the munchkins is hanging dead on a noose in the background of the Wizard of Oz (digitally removed in the re-release). The Mars rover missions are faked on Devon Island. The Titanic never sunk, it was its sister ship The Olympic for an insurance scam. Forrest Gump actually says "Like WAS like a box of chocolates".
Was that hanging part necessary especially while quoting a 15 year old?
 
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Seedz

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#79
Where did I get from? science class, videos articles my favorite book 1,000 facts about space studying the functions of gravity by testing them with objects watching documentories and testing everything I learn and read by any way I can and learning how the world and the universe functions as a whole not just things about gravity and space.

I don't simply believe whatever I am told I find the truth for myself by any means possible, what you call critical thinking is not critical thinking I have studied all of these things and I have used them in the real world. for instance there is this game my aunt has she has a pole and there is a hook attached on the side of it and a string is tied to the top of the pole and on that bottom of that string is a loop made of iron the point of the game is to pull the ring all the way back from a distance from and pole and try to get the ring on the hook.

Now using my understanding of gravity and how the distance and the pressure applied to the force of releasing the ring from a distance I moved back a certain distance I aimed and very gently released the ring from my hand and the amount of pressure that was from the release made the ring land gently into the hook almost perfectly I did this six times in a row and my aunt my amazed because she has never once succeeded on this.

So no I do not simply take what the media tells me and believe it I find the truth out for myself

I commend you for your fine motor skills.

Now, you are still feeding off mainstream books, science theories, and classroom teachings that all come from the same source.

All text books and teaching materials found in schools today come from the same sources.

These sources cannot be trusted because they are all linked to the mainstream.

What I am trying to say is that there is a lot of real info in the mainstream, but anything having to do with the universe, space, God or even historical events are highly modified, or straight up made up.

So much time has passed that they are able to get away with the lie because the lie was implemented so long ago that it has become "truth".

This is not for everybody, not anyone can unlearn the lie and not everyone is meant to.

This is something that I believe God has put ahead of me for me to realize what the world is, and this has rekindled my thirst for the Lord and heavenly things.

Once you realize that the whole world is a LIE and that most of what you have been "taught" is trash and a lie, then you might awaken too to the truth.

This world is ran by satanists elite mofos that only care about humanities perdition and deception so that they can seamlessly implement their demonic agenda.

They already poison us with the food and water supply, just imagine what they do to the information....
 

Prov910

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If the earth is flat what keeps geosynchronous satellites up in orbit? Why don't they fall back to earth?

And where do LEO (low earth orbit) satellites go when they disappear over the horizon in front of you, and then later reappear coming up over the horizon behind you? Do they circle around to the side? lulz