Husband lied about his religion

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

AngelFrog

Senior Member
Feb 16, 2015
648
58
28
#41
There most certainly IS such a thing as an annulment. And it's not man's imagination..
AMEN!
Matthew 19:6 "So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

God did not join his daughter to a Muslim liar.
Our sister in Christ is fully entitled to divorce because in God's eyes she was never actually married under God.

Beware that teaching that claims God marries non-Christians with Christians in this particular circumstance. God didn't say it. They did. That's bad.
2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?


John 10:1-42
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.”

A Muslim man that lies and claims he is Christian is a thief and a robber. And in the case of our sister , the thief and robber of her virtue and her trust.
Islam does not recognize Jesus as Christ. Or, most importantly, the son of God!
There is no salvation in Islam.
What does Islam have in common with Christianity? Nothing!
 

AngelFrog

Senior Member
Feb 16, 2015
648
58
28
#42
he was- but later he said he see islam is bad and my God answers my prayers and he would get to know jesus and read the bible and learn, one night he even said he believes in Jesus and will follow my God and read the bible study and learn and go to church.
He will do. Has he done this?
Your first post said none of this that you posted much later.

1 Corinthians 7:15
But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace.

You do not have to wait for your Muslim husband to separate from you. You can divorce him!
You are not in a God anointed marriage when your husband lied from the start. You are entitled to leave. You are not enslaved. And God will call you to peace.
 

AngelFrog

Senior Member
Feb 16, 2015
648
58
28
#43
You made another thread on this subject 8 months ago, and the OP is almost word-for-word identical to this one. So you stayed with him for the last 9 months and are STILL having problems with his religion? Seriously???

So WHY are you STILL married to him nearly a year later?

The solution is simple: get an annulment.
You know, this could all be fake.
 

Gman

Junior Member
Nov 30, 2017
75
36
18
#44
There most certainly IS such a thing as an annulment. And it's not man's imagination..
When I say it's a man's imagination that means it's our own fabrication, it's not in God's word. Whether you get a divorce or an annulment you're still married in God's book until the person you were married to dies.
People can do whatever they want and call it whatever they want they are still married and if they get remarried that's adultery! And I don't care if no one agrees or talks to me as a result of this I'm standing by God's word.
 

Gman

Junior Member
Nov 30, 2017
75
36
18
#45
You know, this could all be fake.
Yes it could be but the situation is not and I don't have a problem with you actually I would like for you to teach me how to insert quotes in my text but God's word is clear on this. Let me ask you this, say this is all real and now the husband who is now a Muslim is converted into a Spirit-filled Bible believing Christian a year or two from now what then? if she takes your advice she would have already divorced him, do you see why God said what he said?
 

DiscipleDave

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2012
3,095
69
48
#46
That isn't Biblical at all.

The man lied! From the beginning of the relationship about being a Christian. He's a Muslim. Which means he's not only up to no good when he commits Taqiya , but he blasphemed the name of Christ claiming to be a Christian when he is a Muslim who's faith does not respect nor recognize Jesus as the son of God nor the Messiah, nor savior of the world.
Seems to me, she knew he was not a Christian from the very start, correct? So she made a vow to God for better or worse to a man that she knew was not a Christian. This is True according to her own words. So what are you saying, she has every right to divorce him because he, as a non believer lied about what other religion he was? We are told in Scriptures to not have fellowship with darkness. So she married a NON Christian person, and made a vow to God for better or worse to a NON Christian person. What? Because that person acts like a NON Christian and lies, that is grounds for a divorce? She should have never married him to begin with, being that she was Christian and he was clearly NOT a Christian. But she chose to make that vow to God to marry that NON Christian person, and not she is upset because he is acting like a NON Christian person and is a liar? Do you see what i am saying?

Furthermore, her husband is an unbeliever. And the scriptures say we are not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers.
And did she comply with this Scripture or did she choose to ignore this Scripture and marry him anyways? If she would have obeyed the Scriptures, she would not have married an unbeliever, and would not be in the mess she is in now. Just because a person says they will eventually go to Church, eventially pray to God, does not make them a Christian. She flat out married a man who was not a Christian. And now is seeking justification to get rid of this man because he is not a Christian. A sex offender would have the same argument "Well she told me she was 18" Just because she said she was 18 doesn't mean she is 18. Just because he said he would become a Christian one day, doesn't mean he is a Christian today. She married a NON Christian, and now wants out of it.


In the case of Islam, which is an adversary of Christianity, it is right to recall that scripture that asks, what does light have in common with darkness? Light being Christianity and darkness in this case being Islam.
Answer? NOTHING!
TRUE, and she still chose to marry a NON Christian. Forget about islam for a minute. This Christian woman decided to marry a man who was NOT a Christian, she chose to marry this NON Christian person, she chose to be yoked together with someone who is darkness (NON Christian) And now looking for a way out of it.

And lastly, we're not old testament Jews. Nor are we first century people of the book. If Karchani wants to divorce her lying Muslim husband, when asking herself, if he'd lie about his faith what else is a lie in his life and can she trust him to be faithful sexually to her, she can!
If she made a vow to God to marry this man for better or worse till death do her part, should she not keep her vow? Else how is she not a liar like her husband?

God forgives! Being married to a man that lies from the beginning in order to get with a Christian woman bodes a bad future.
Scriptures teach that sexual immorality is the only grounds for a divorce, But you are saying that if you have a lying spouse that is also grounds for a divorce as well? Is that what you are saying? i hope not. Now if her husband does cheat on her, then by all means get a divorce, and you are right to do so.

And please Lord, don't yoke yourself to him by having kids! Because in Islam, his rules rule the rearing of the kids. And controls the wife too!

Get out! That's my advice. While you're a single woman without kids. Get out! You're not actually married in the eyes of God
Know you not that if you are joined to a prostitute you are one with that person? The husband and wife are ONE because of the joining of them together in sex. Therefore it is the joining of one body to another body that is marriage in Gods eyes. That is why when you have sex with someone that you know is not someone you want to marry it is called Fornication. Or if a married person joins him/her self with another knowing that other is not one they made a vow to, is called Adultery. When two humans have sexual intercourse they have become ONE flesh (Married in the eyes of God)


because the man in your life did not actually enter a Christian marriage covenant when he was a liar standing at the altar as a Muslim.
But she did!!! She being a Christian made a vow to God to be with the man she is marrying for better or worse, till death do them part. i don't care what he did, he will answer to God one day for his sins, but she being a Christian asking Christians what she should do, should get a Christian answer. If she being a Christian made a vow to God, she should keep it.


Beware a man that would hide the faith he's given his heart and life to just to get with a female who he knows has given her heart and life to Christ!
She should have been asking for advice with Christians BEFORE she decided to marry a person who was NOT a Christian person. Muslims lie, they are known to lie, yes. So he did what Muslims do and lied. And now she is upset that He did what he did and he was Muslim all along. Tell me, where do you think the mistake happened? When he lied, or when she married a NON Christian person who was promising to become a Christian LATER?

He lied, that is what Muslims do. She married a NON Christian, that is what the Bible says NOT to do, yet she chose to do it anyways. So what? It's his fault because he did what Muslims do and lied. Or is it her fault because she failed to obey the Word of God?

No offense to anyone really, and i am not sticking up for Muslims in the slightest. But she should never have married a NON Christian man to begin with, Scriptures warned her not to do that. For whatever reason she chose to ignore Scriptures and marry a man that she knew full well, was not a Christian at the time of the vow making. And now that she has made a vow to God, she should keep it. Who knows maybe her husband will cheat on her, then she can get a divorce in a Godly manner.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
#48
When I say it's a man's imagination that means it's our own fabrication, it's not in God's word. Whether you get a divorce or an annulment you're still married in God's book until the person you were married to dies.
People can do whatever they want and call it whatever they want they are still married and if they get remarried that's adultery! And I don't care if no one agrees or talks to me as a result of this I'm standing by God's word.
If you never had sex with the person an annulment is possible.,,,like Joseph was betrothed and was to put Mary aside until the angel appeared...

It may be legal marriage but not biblical marriage until consummation/ sex.

I thought that the only way for annulment was if the marriage wasn't consummated.

Also if any unbeliever leaves the union then the believes is NOT bound and can remarry,

In the case of the Op..,i suggest counseling with a pastor...,i don't think we are getting the whole picture.
 

Gman

Junior Member
Nov 30, 2017
75
36
18
#49
Seems to me, she knew he was not a Christian from the very start, correct? So she made a vow to God for better or worse to a man that she knew was not a Christian. This is True according to her own words. So what are you saying, she has every right to divorce him because he, as a non believer lied about what other religion he was? We are told in Scriptures to not have fellowship with darkness. So she married a NON Christian person, and made a vow to God for better or worse to a NON Christian person. What? Because that person acts like a NON Christian and lies, that is grounds for a divorce? She should have never married him to begin with, being that she was Christian and he was clearly NOT a Christian. But she chose to make that vow to God to marry that NON Christian person, and not she is upset because he is acting like a NON Christian person and is a liar? Do you see what i am saying?



And did she comply with this Scripture or did she choose to ignore this Scripture and marry him anyways? If she would have obeyed the Scriptures, she would not have married an unbeliever, and would not be in the mess she is in now. Just because a person says they will eventually go to Church, eventially pray to God, does not make them a Christian. She flat out married a man who was not a Christian. And now is seeking justification to get rid of this man because he is not a Christian. A sex offender would have the same argument "Well she told me she was 18" Just because she said she was 18 doesn't mean she is 18. Just because he said he would become a Christian one day, doesn't mean he is a Christian today. She married a NON Christian, and now wants out of it.




TRUE, and she still chose to marry a NON Christian. Forget about islam for a minute. This Christian woman decided to marry a man who was NOT a Christian, she chose to marry this NON Christian person, she chose to be yoked together with someone who is darkness (NON Christian) And now looking for a way out of it.



If she made a vow to God to marry this man for better or worse till death do her part, should she not keep her vow? Else how is she not a liar like her husband?



Scriptures teach that sexual immorality is the only grounds for a divorce, But you are saying that if you have a lying spouse that is also grounds for a divorce as well? Is that what you are saying? i hope not. Now if her husband does cheat on her, then by all means get a divorce, and you are right to do so.



Know you not that if you are joined to a prostitute you are one with that person? The husband and wife are ONE because of the joining of them together in sex. Therefore it is the joining of one body to another body that is marriage in Gods eyes. That is why when you have sex with someone that you know is not someone you want to marry it is called Fornication. Or if a married person joins him/her self with another knowing that other is not one they made a vow to, is called Adultery. When two humans have sexual intercourse they have become ONE flesh (Married in the eyes of God)




But she did!!! She being a Christian made a vow to God to be with the man she is marrying for better or worse, till death do them part. i don't care what he did, he will answer to God one day for his sins, but she being a Christian asking Christians what she should do, should get a Christian answer. If she being a Christian made a vow to God, she should keep it.




She should have been asking for advice with Christians BEFORE she decided to marry a person who was NOT a Christian person. Muslims lie, they are known to lie, yes. So he did what Muslims do and lied. And now she is upset that He did what he did and he was Muslim all along. Tell me, where do you think the mistake happened? When he lied, or when she married a NON Christian person who was promising to become a Christian LATER?

He lied, that is what Muslims do. She married a NON Christian, that is what the Bible says NOT to do, yet she chose to do it anyways. So what? It's his fault because he did what Muslims do and lied. Or is it her fault because she failed to obey the Word of God?

No offense to anyone really, and i am not sticking up for Muslims in the slightest. But she should never have married a NON Christian man to begin with, Scriptures warned her not to do that. For whatever reason she chose to ignore Scriptures and marry a man that she knew full well, was not a Christian at the time of the vow making. And now that she has made a vow to God, she should keep it. Who knows maybe her husband will cheat on her, then she can get a divorce in a Godly manner.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
Thank you! You said everything I wanted to say but did not have time to and then some.
 

Gman

Junior Member
Nov 30, 2017
75
36
18
#50
If you never had sex with the person an annulment is possible.,,,like Joseph was betrothed and was to put Mary aside until the angel appeared...

It may be legal marriage but not biblical marriage until consummation/ sex.

I thought that the only way for annulment was if the marriage wasn't consummated.

Also if any unbeliever leaves the union then the believes is NOT bound and can remarry,

In the case of the Op..,i suggest counseling with a pastor...,i don't think we are getting the whole picture.
You made some very good points but as it is demonstrated throughout the Bible both the Vow and the coming together of the husband and wife constitute marriage, the one confirms the other.
Things are so watered down these days you really have to earnestly seek God for him to help you understand these things.
Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ said: "let no man separate what God has put together" so there is no such thing as an annulment, the wicked heart of men came up with this; even in the case of unfaithfulness, God is giving us a concession, meaning: that is not what he would like... So the Lord Jesus again said it is because Your hearts are hard that Moses said you could get a certificate of divorce when there is infidelity.
There is not a command to divorce your spouse because they cheated on you but if you cannot bear as a result you may get a divorce as a concession from God. When the Lord said this the people understood so much so that they said if this is the situation it's better not to marry...
When you came to believe God gave you the Holy Spirit as a deposit and he is able to teach you all things so go to him.
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
#51
The broken state of families is sad and not what God intends.

However I still say it's better to separate and live separate lives than stay in a loveless marriage or bring children into a trouble marriage.

The issue of remarriage, divorce, etc can be debated.

I believe God is more loving and forgiving than many people represent Him as.

Yes we can talk about the Biblical ideal of marriage and what should or shouldn't have happened.

We can't change the past, we can only learn from it and playfully seek God's guidance about the present and future.

What hear from the OP is that you love your husband but are scared to have children with him and feel betrayed because you thought he had made a promise to you to become Christian and attend bible study and prayer meetings with you.

Do you want to stay and fight for your marriage (by loving him even when he isn't lovable) or do I feel that God is telling you to walk away from Him (which God might have been telling you all long but you ignored and married him anyway)?

I can't answer these questions for you.

Only you know why you married the man.

Only you can decide if you want to stay or leave based upon how oh believe God is leading you.
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
#52
Prayful* hate autocorrect
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
#53
Will keep you I prayer and I believe God's will can be accomplished by staying or by leaving. The choice is based upon what God lays on your heart.

These verses come to mind

1 Corinthians 7:14
New International Version
For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.​