Woman can't teach in the congregation

I think it presumptuous for human prejudices to presume to speak and say that God would never call a woman to preach simply because she was born female. All things operate according to God's planning and for the sake of his glory. The Christian, male or female, is to perform the work of God as God leads them through the calling and inspiration of his holy spirit.
Man's prejudice does not supersede God's planning. And when the scriptures were written culture in those times was patriarchal. We can't forget the influence of politic on what arrives today as the canon.

Furthermore, of course a woman can lead. Any Christian man who thinks not and has a female for a boss should quit first thing come Monday morning. Walk the talk.
And if a Christian man is in the military they better not look too hard or they'll find at least one female General in the ranks.

For Christ's sake, literally, a woman led the Apostles to the empty tomb to show the promise Jesus made to arise from death after three days was accomplished.
That right there should settle the matter.
If it doesn't, well, that's just too bad. Because God isn't beholding to our prejudices that are sins as soon as they sprout to life in our mind.

Because almost all denominations have rejected the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY of Scripture over all their doctrines and practices.

You are correct in that Christian women are FORBIDDEN by God to preach, teach, or assume authority within the local Church.

I'm confused by this thread.


What are we talking about when we say women can't teach?

A. Are we using "can't" to mean "not allowed", as in "My dog can't get on the sofa."

B. Are we using "can't" to mean "not good at", as in "My dog tries and tries, but he can't catch a frisbee."


Because, let's be honest... there's a lot of women that can't catch a frisbee.


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Why do you introduce "human prejudices" as though Christians are to walk according to their human prejudices? Have you studied the matter from the New Testament, which is our sole authority in these matters?

If not then kindly do a proper and careful study of the roles of men and women in the home and in the local church, as shown in the New Testament Scriptures. And show us what Scripture reveals, not who you think it should say.

i think it's interesting that both sides will say "do a proper study of the Scriptures."

and it's interesting that both sides will say his/her own study is correct (because let's face it. even "studies" out there can be biased).

this is one of those topics that will not reach 100% agreement. some believe women can preach/teach/lead. some will say women can't.

in heaven, it won't even matter because we'll be too focused on being with the Lord.

Because, after all, it says so right there in Speculations 4:9.

Looks like we hit a nerve!

As also in all his [Paul's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (2 Pet 3:16)

Yes. And that's why I refer to human prejudices. Because God nor his word, is that.
A woman can't preach? A woman can't lead. That's balderdash!
I'd rather such thinkers read the New Testament and introduce themselves to more than just thinking it says women are less than. We are all one in Christ. Thinking women cannot because they are female revokes that oneness God's word describes as his church. And that is people's fault. Not God's word.

The teaching has to do with counseling men .Safer and less drama when men counsel men and woman counsel woman. More focus on the subject matter, the unseen glory of God. The new order of government had caused some new problems. Prior to the time of reformation the woman and men were not to congregate together .The area was separated by a wall. Called the woman's court or middle court . God had come to make prophets hose who declare the gospel of man and woman, as one new creature restoring the order to the time of Judges.

Acts 2:15-17 King James Version (KJV) For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Looks like that's you admitting your intention.
The nerves are plucked in those who think God's word states women are forbidden.....
There is no such passage. There's interpolation. There is no truth, no such passage, in that claim.
I'd worry about getting on God's nerves thinking it righteous to argue he would never call a woman to preach or lead, when the New Testament testifies he did just that. Even has it naming names! Even Paul's letter describes such women.

That would mean those nervy type are calling God a liar. Yeah, I'd worry very much about the nerve of that.

Yawn......

Can you elaborate more?

i dont think anyone should teach unless they are called to teach by God

i hear so many people men and women alike spreading silly teachings and sapplings who dont know any better start out with a shakey foundation that needs to be broken to make room for a strong foundation in Christ alone

I am quite sure that those that state women cannot teach have never really researched, studied and stepped outside of their biases and looked at from an objective lens.
Attitude towards woman does matter here on earth.

Probably from "He must manage his own family well" requirement for a bishop in 1 Tm 3.

Ive done that too many times on here to still wanna always repost over and over again

CTRL + C, CTRL + V

yeah we had one of these not that long ago and it became really ugly. I mean really ugly.

I am sure many remember it but not fondly

Again? Really? Complete with wrong KJV translations to support it?

I guess I will go to my computer, dig out the pages I have written, and repost them. Just for the OP, since most of you have some firm stands, one way or another.

Seriously? I have to laugh!

Almost all threads are repetitions of something that was already discussed, I do not know why just about this one is everybody complaining that it is not new