How long until the End?

It was the 14th year after Jerusalem had been captured. We had been brought to Babylon as prisoners. It was the tenth day of a month near the beginning of the 25th year after that. On that day the power of the Lord came on me. He took me back to my land.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel40&version=NIRV

After the man of sin stands back up alive after taking a deadly head wound, I will be able to give you a fairly good estimate. But until then, it is all speculation.

No one can date it, but we can see the signs....my view....close and unlike many, I believe the first 1185 days of the 70th week have already been fulfilled in the ministry of JESUS and that we (the world) has exactly 1335 days left when the end begins....I am post tribulation/pre-wrath ingathering/change at the 7th trump....and to me the big sign is Israel in the land 70 years which was just fulfilled....the woes and burdens of Isaiah and Jeremiah have blended historical contexts of both the nations in existence when penned and the nations in existence when the end comes....they all have a late summer to fall destruction and or fall..........

Surprising to see someone on this forum that I can agree with on the 70th week of Daniel.
I believe that those final 1335 days will began when the man of sin stands up alive after the deadly head wound.
Much has been fulfilled with Israel being in the promised land for 70 years now.
Just watching for the Assyrian to come on the scene.

All one has to do is read Daniel and the 12th chapter tells us there is exactly 1335 days left when it starts........I am sure we could carry on a very lively conversation....

Odelschwanck , yes thee papacy receieved its deadly head wound in 1798 . As for JPII yet the graph shows he was wounded , it has nothing to do with the prophecy of the 7 Kings , thee only thing that matters is that JPII ( One Is ) is a part of the seven kings that usher in the count down towards the eight King Francis I ( Beast )

Here is something interesting that was address to me today , perhaps some might find it a bit interesting as well.

Not only did John the Apostles of Jesus Christ , see the future events given to him . But he witness the apostate John in the future interesting to me.

Something else to note , thee Lateran Treaty was sign on February 11 , 1929 , also the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI , was first announced on the morning of 11 February 2013.






Shalom

Hello vic1980 and Odleshwanck,

The deadly head wound that the beast survives has yet to take place. These things will take place during that last seven years leading up to the Lord's return to the earth.

John sees a dragon with seven heads and we are told in Rev.17 that those heads represent two things, seven mountains/hills that the woman sits on and a succession of seven kings. The eight king who belongs to the seven, is that future antichrist/beast who will come up out of the Abyss. It is the antichrist empowered by this beast who receives the fatal wound. The word "Thanatos" translated as "fatal" or "mortal" is defined as "a death-stroke, death blow," i.e. something that is not survivable. This fatal wound that he receives and survives, will be for the purpose of deceiving the inhabitants of the earth in his claim of being God. This along with the miracles, signs and wonders that the false prophet will be performing on his behalf, will deceive the inhabitants of the world.

Daniel 9:27 describes a seven year period which is divided into two 3 1/2 year periods, with the setting up of the abomination marking the middle of the seven years. It is during the middle of the seven years when he will stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God and is given authority over the inhabitants of the earth and to make war and conquer the saints. It is during the seven this years that he receives his fatal wound. In further support of this, it is at the end of that seven years that Jesus returns to the earth to end the age. Therefore, the fatal wound could not have taken place in 1798.

Hey Ahwatukee , i would like you to address if possible who are thee seven kings , according to your findings. It is very important to know who they are , due that it points to the revealing of the eight King ( Beast )

According to what was given to Thee Prophet Daniel

Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Shalom

The seven are a succession of kings. The angel told John that five had already fallen, i.e. ruled and gone. Then the angel said "one is" i.e. the sixth king was ruling at the time that John was receiving that information. Then the angel said, "the other (king number seven) had not yet come, but when he did, he must remain for a little while." The seventh king was future as John was receiving that information and is in the past to us. The eighth king who belongs to the seven is that future antichrist who will be empowered by the beast who comes up out of the Abyss.

Being that the seven heads of the dragon also represent seven mountains/hills that the woman sits on, the woman being Rome/Vatican, then I would believe that those seven succession of kings would be referring to a succession of Roman emperors. The fact is that we are never told who those kings are and it doesn't take away from the fact that the eighth king is that antichrist/beast who is still future and is the one who receives the fatal wound.

Yes i can agree with you on this , for that is what scripture has explain clearly.


But Ahwatukee according to your dating records who is the seventh king ? With so much history upon the fall of Roman Empire who took it's place. There has to be a name behind it ?


But who is the seventh king " One Is " , i believe each and everyone is aware how close we truly are to the mark of the beast , why can we be certain it is so close . But yet cannot have discernment upon the lineage of the seven in this day of age ???

With a vast amount of history at the tip of our fingers , via books or search engines it must be possible to address who is the seventh king in the Book of revelation along with the lineage of thee other . To give us a closure , to this prophecy upon the seven kings that is given in the book of Revelations.


We have a huge list of successors of Roman Emperors , which one according to your timeline do we begin with for the count down ???

1. Romulus Augustulus

2. Charlemagne

3. Justinian I

4. Vigilius

5. ETC ...

Yet i am aware that you are a Pre tribulation believer . I was expecting a better explanation , on how are you aware that we are so close to the mark of the beast . Without acknowledging who are the seven kings in the Book of Revelation ??? I believe we can continue this dialogue in a peaceful manner to further examine everything we have learned for this point forward.

If anyone wishes to share , what they have learn please do , let us all discuss this and examine everything that is in scripture and current events that happen in the past and those that are taking place in this generation.

But names need to be mention in order to continue this discussion , shalom to all ...

Here are a couple of things that were not address yet , that can be furthermore discuss upon this thread.

The False Prophet of Revelation is not a King , there is no indication anywhere in scripture Old Testament & New Testament , that a false prophet has ever held a title as king.

It is the False Prophet that deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. ( See Revelation 19:20 )

Thee two witnesses of Revelations begin there ministry , is it close to that time period ? ( See Revelation 11:1-14 )

Shalom

First of all, at the time that John was receiving the information from the angel he said, "five have fallen and one is," meaning that the one who was currently ruling was king number six not seven. King number seven was future to John as the angel said "when he comes he must remain for a little while.

The "one is" i.e. king number six, would have been Domitian who ruled from 81-96 AD which was when John was exiled to Patmos. The next ruler was Nerva, who ruled from 96-98 AD.

Yet i am aware that you are a Pre tribulation believer . I was expecting a better explanation , on how are you aware that we are so close to the mark of the beast without acknowledging who are the seven kings in the Book of Revelation ???

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I'm not really concerned about who the previous seven kings were, but who the future eighth king is. Also, you don't need to know who those seven kings are to understand that we are close to the time of the beast and his mark and that because the technology for what will become the mark is already here.

When the Lord first called me, He drew me to the book of Revelation and end-time events (eschatology). From that time forward, the Spirit alerted me to the evolution of this technology as it continued to evolve. First came the ATM's, then the Universal product code (UPC), then came the Point of Sale system (POS) with it Verifone device which allowed people to electronically credit and debit their bank accounts (buying and selling). Now people are able to credit and debit each others bank accounts.

Following that and beginning in 2015, businesses in Sweden began to offer their employees to be implanted with an RFID chip under the skin of the hand, which by the swipe of their hand across the scanner, they could access the building, operate copiers and other machines. But the one that I was concerned about, was/is that they could use their implants to make electronic purchases within the building. Since then other businesses there and in her sister countries have followed suit. And now, that technology is here in the US. A company back east has also offered their employees to be implanted under the skin of the hand to be able to make electronic purchases within the company.

Regarding this prophecy, scripture states that "he (the false prophet) causes all both great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on the hand or the forehead and except anyone had the mark they would not be able to buy or sell. So fare we have a match in regards to where this device is being implanted and a second match in that its use will be for electronic crediting and debiting, which in perspective to this generation, is buying and selling.

This device/mark will most likely continue to evolve into something more applicable. But what will remain consistent is that it will end up being placed on/in the hand or the forehead. This was a prophecy from 1900 years ago. The very fact that this technology exists is a testimony to the truth and accuracy of God's word. Soon, we will begin to see people begin to make their purchases via that device.

What most people are unaware of is what this electronic crediting and debiting system is really here for, which is in preparation for that coming antichrist/beast. And because of this, we can know that the gathering of the church is very close in that, we must be removed prior to when that mark becomes the only valid method of buying and selling, which will also be during the time of God's wrath.

Since this technology has already been revealed, then we don't need to know who those seven kings were to understand that the coming of the Lord is very, very near to gathering His church. Please take time to check out these links regarding the mark technology:

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/science...e-staff-offered-implants-to-access-facilities

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...ips-in-employees/ar-AAoJT1s?OCID=ansmsnnews11

I agree! The false prophet is not referred to as a king. I personally believe that the false prophet will be played by one of the future pope's. John was told by the angel that "the woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth." At the time that John was receiving that information from the angel, Rome was that great city that ruled over the kings of the earth. The angels also said, "the seven heads are (represent) seven hills/mountains upon which the woman sits," which again is Rome. We are told that the woman is dressed in purple and scarlet, which are the exact colors of the bishops and cardinals:




Regarding the two witnesses, we are told that they will prophesy for 1260 days which is 3 1/2 years. Regarding this, in Daniel 9:27, we are told that "He" that ruler, the antichrist, will establish a seven year covenant/treaty with Israel. In the middle of the seven years, the antichrist cause the sacrifice and offerings to cease and sets up an abomination that causes the desolation of Jerusalem and the area of Judea. Therefore, the seven years are divided into two 3 1/2 year periods which is the only two choices for the time of their prophecy. The first 3 1/2 begins with the initiation of that seven years to the setting up of that abomination. The second is from the setting up of the abomination until Christ returns to the earth to end the age, which is after the 7th bowl has been poured out.

We also have information in Revelation 12 stating that in the middle of the seven years, the woman/Israel will flee out into the desert to a place that God will have prepared for her out of the dragon's/Satan's reach. This means that the people of Israel will not be present in the Jerusalem from the middle of the seven years and throughout that last 3 1/2 years. That said, I believe that the time of the prophecy of the two witnesses will be from the beginning of the seven years until the middle. My reasoning is that, if the time of their prophecy was during the second 3 1/2 year period, Israel would not be there to prophesy to, because they would have already fled out into the desert where they are cared for during that 1260 days.

Just a question Ahwatukee , so were do you put the rule of the Papacy in prophecy ? It is the only political and ecclesia power that persecuted the saints of God. For over a millennia .

We can come to a agreement that Thee Catholic Church / Vatican City including it's bishops and cardinals point directly to Mystery Babylon.

But we also must put into examination that in 1929 , there was a new entity that was created , with a new succession of kings.

All roads truly lead to Rome ...

Thanks for writing down the rulers names , now i can examine what you have shared more clearer.





By my examination of scripture , if Jesus Christ has given His servants a blue print to lead us , to the final events that take place before he returns. All of it is of much importance ...

Take Daniel for a example , he search the scripture's , to see where he & Israel were in the timeline according to the Prophet Jeremiah.

I believe every word counts , and He will help us understand clearly Ahwatukee...


Thanks for your testimony , there is a thread that i update a few time upon on this site news section , upon many new technology that the governing bodies are trying to implement by force. But not many care to read the articles , or have a exchange of thoughts upon this subject.

Good day Vic1980,

From the time that Constantine deemed Christianity as the official religion of Rome, all of the pagan practices which stemmed from ancient Babylon, were transferred over diluting and contaminating the church. Because Constantine was the emperor, as well as pope, those characteristics carried over to the office of pope. All one has to do is look at the history of the RCC and her popes, the persecution and murder that they were responsible for as they controlled kings and their armies with their threat of excommunication, as well as the untold number of true Christians who were killed in the inquisitions.

In response to your question, I believe that once that antichrist/beast is revealed, that his side-kick the false prophet, is going to be played by one of the future pope's. The emergence of the antichrist is going to put the pope and the RCC back into the power that she has desired, bring all the inhabitants of the earth under the authority of the pope and the RCC. By having the pope as the head of that one world religious system, then the antichrist will control all of the faithful in that religious system and that because the pope will be affiliated with him. In addition, when the pope/false prophet begins to perform those miracles, signs and wonders, then every false Christian sect (Mormon's, JW's, Unification church, etc.), will be drawn in to become apart of that religious system. The only groups that will be resisting will be the great tribulation saints of that time. For they will not love their lives so much as to shrink away from dead while keeping their testimony of Jesus and the word of God and will not worship the beast, his image nor receive his mark.

Whatever that "new entity" is and whether it has any bearing on prophecy is not a concern of mine. What is a concern is that because the technology for the mark has been revealed, then we know that the antichrist, that eighth king is coming and is most definitely already here just waiting for the restrainer to be taken out of the way. Why be concerned with the previous kings when that eighth king, the antichrist, is about to be revealed? And because of this, as well as other prophetic events with Israel having and being fulfilled, we also know that the time is near for the gathering of the church.

I already understand clearly by what I read and what I already see shaping up in the world. Nothing that you can present regarding those previous kings can change the fact that we are already seeing the stage being set for the revealing of that eighth king, the antichrist. Since we have already seen the emergence for the technology for the mark and which continues to evolve, we know that the time is near. In the same way, God said that He would scatter Israel to the other nations and that area would become a desolate waste land, which it was for hundreds of years. He also said that he would regather His people from all of the nations that He scattered them to and that the land would become like Eden. All of those prophesies have and continue to take place. Israel just celebrated her 70th anniversary as a nation and the land is now a flourishing Eden. What's more is that our president has recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital, something that none of the previous president's have done.

God is about to pick up where He left off in fulfillment of that last seven year period in regards to the seventy sevens that was decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem, which is also the day of the Lord, the time of God's wrath. But before that seven years begins, the Lord is going appear and gather His church according to His promise found in John 14:1-3 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18.

The scriptures do not indicate , that the five Kings that have fallen , were in the timeline when John received the revelation. Due that if this was thee correct interpretation upon them , then Trajan would have been the eight king according to the lineage of the seven.

Ahwatukee said:

The "one is" i.e. king number six, would have been Domitian who ruled from 81-96 AD which was when John was exiled to Patmos. The next ruler was Nerva, who ruled from 96-98 AD.

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Yes but after Nerva ruling , Trajan was his successor , making him the eight King according to historic account on thee Roman Emperors . I wonder why did you stop at Nerva ? Trajan persecuted believers in Christ , Afterwards after his ruling Hadrian became Emperor and was ruthless toward the Jewish People , he even change the name of Judea to Syria Palaetina along with Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina.




If Jesus gave us a road map to our destination , why not keep on the correct route . So that we may not take a wrong turn ? I believe it to be of much importance , very necessary to know who are the seven kings , due that at thee end of there ruling points directly to the Beast .

Something to note upon those seven kings in the book of revelation , none of them were given power to persecute the saints of God. Only the eight is given such power. Yet i am aware you are a pre tribulation believer , and i along with others post tribulation , i find it interesting that none of the sides have noted this.






Yet some may point to Islam , or America . One thing is for sure the beast will have power to persecute the Saints of God, and i do not see america as a safe haven . America has no kings due that our constitution does not give presidents regal title , it seems that thee american presidents have sold themselves over to the papacy trump being one of them in a long list sense Ronald Reagan . America also host the UN that is giving much power back to the bishop/ King of Vatican City. And as we have both clarified and agreed upon no false prophet has even held the title or seat as a King.

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Shalom

Jesus needs to rule 1000 years on earth before the end of the world comes.

but if you are a Godly Christian

you will be caught up to the clouds and reign with Jesus forever (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) you will never experience death if you are alive when Jesus returns to earth again to reign for 1000 years.