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LORD DIRECT MY PATH. I am ready to serve you and follow you all the days of my life. My life is at rock bottom. I have no plans or clue where to go. Take me Lord in your hands and guide me.

Dear Heavenly Father, I’m so grateful You are involved in every step of my life. How comforting to know that in good times or bad, You remain in control and have a plan for me. I thank You that You are good no matter what happens, and that I can rest in Your presence. I am thankful for the faithfulness of Joseph that no matter what happened, he turned to You and never doubted You. I pray to have that kind of faith and live a life of surrender to Your will.

Father, I thank you that Jeremiah 29:11 says I know the plans I have for you declares the Lord, plans to bless you and to prosper you and to give you hope and a future. Father, I thank You that Romans 8:28 says that You will work all things together for my good because You love me and I am called according to Your purposes. Father, Mark 10:27 says that with men it may be impossible but with God all things are possible for my life.
Mark 11:22–24 gives me a promise for the plans You have for my life. Thank You that it says to have faith in God, “I assure you (your name), if you say to this mountain be lifted up and thrown into the sea and do not doubt in your heart but believe what you say, it will happen to you. Therefore, I tell you, (your name), that whatever things you pray for believe that you receive them and you shall have them. Father, John 4:34 says that my food is to do the will of Him who sent me and to finish His work. Father, it is my desire to do the work that You called me to and to walk in the fullness of the plans that You have for my life.


In Jesus Name, Amen.
 
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Well, I'm not sure I am understanding your question in the proper text. Are you asking why are we here i.e., on earth, and our physical location and it's relevance?
Or are you asking in other words "What is the purpose of our existence?
 
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Well, I'm not sure I am understanding your question in the proper text. Are you asking why are we here i.e., on earth, and our physical location and it's relevance?
Or are you asking in other words "What is the purpose of our existence?
I believe our purpose here or anywhere throughout eternity is to glorify God. Anything else I can think of is beneath that.
 
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I believe that God want children, who are able to love him. The angels are not able to love, they can only serve. That's why we were given a soul. I believe God knew Adam and eve would sin. The soul is about pleasing the flesh and exalting it self. Our lives are like the parable about the weeds, Mathew 13: 24 - 30, God will one day separate the weeds from the wheat.
 

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Hi Silverwings, that was a nicely done video. Thanks for sharing it with us :)

~Deut

..........Westminster Shorter Catechism
...............Q: 1. What is the chief end of man?
...............A: Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy Him forever.
 
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I don't believe angels are like 'robots' -
if the anointed cherub' was once 'perfect in all of his ways',
then 'love' would have to have been in the equation -
he obviously had 'free-will', and the ability to 'hate' God...
 
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I don't believe angels are like 'robots' -
if the anointed cherub' was once 'perfect in all of his ways',
then 'love' would have to have been in the equation -
he obviously had 'free-will', and the ability to 'hate' God...
Angels are ministering spirits heb: 1: 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? The angels are spirit. They do not have a soul. heb: 1: 7 says in speaking of the angels he says, he makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire. The soul is what holds the emotions of man.
 

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Here is a reference to your soul:

SOUL = H5315

נֶפֶשׁ

nephesh

neh'-fesh

From H5314; properly a breathing creature, that is, animal or (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental): - any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead (-ly), desire, X [dis-] contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart (-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortality, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it.

Here is a reference to Mortalism: Mortalism

Thomson (2008), Bodies of thought: science, religion, and the soul in the early Enlightenment, p. 42, For mortalists the Bible did not teach the existence of a separate immaterial or immortal soul and the word 'soul' simply meant 'life'; the doctrine of a separate soul was said to be a Platonic importation..

Kries 1997, p. 97: ‘In Leviathan, soul and body are one; there are no "separated essenses" [sic]; death means complete death – the soul, merely another word for life, or breath, ceases at the death of the body. This view of the soul is known as Christian mortalism – a heterodox view held, indeed, by some sincere believers and not unique to Hobbes.’

Hick (1994), Death and eternal life, p. 211, christian mortalism – the view that the soul either sleeps until the Day of Judgment, or is annihilated and re-created.

Fudge & Peterson 2000, p. 173 -1: ‘the belief that according to divine revelation the soul does not exist as an independent substance after the death of the body’

Almond 1994, p. 38: …‘mortalist views – particularly of the sort which affirmed that the soul slept or died – were widespread in the Reformation period. George Williams has shown how prevalent mortalism was among the Reformation radicals.’


We are mortal. :)
 
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Angels are ministering spirits heb: 1: 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? The angels are spirit. They do not have a soul. heb: 1: 7 says in speaking of the angels he says, he makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire. The soul is what holds the emotions of man.
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yes, we agree that 'angels' are 'ministering spirits', but where does it say in the 'scriptures'
that angels have a soul or that they 'do not have a soul',
please 'quote' your scripture for the specific scripture of 'angelic souls'...???
 
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Here is a reference to your soul:

SOUL = H5315

נֶפֶשׁ

nephesh

neh'-fesh

From H5314; properly a breathing creature, that is, animal or (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental): - any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead (-ly), desire, X [dis-] contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart (-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortality, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it.

Here is a reference to Mortalism: Mortalism

Thomson (2008), Bodies of thought: science, religion, and the soul in the early Enlightenment, p. 42, For mortalists the Bible did not teach the existence of a separate immaterial or immortal soul and the word 'soul' simply meant 'life'; the doctrine of a separate soul was said to be a Platonic importation..

Kries 1997, p. 97: ‘In Leviathan, soul and body are one; there are no "separated essenses" [sic]; death means complete death – the soul, merely another word for life, or breath, ceases at the death of the body. This view of the soul is known as Christian mortalism – a heterodox view held, indeed, by some sincere believers and not unique to Hobbes.’

Hick (1994), Death and eternal life, p. 211, christian mortalism – the view that the soul either sleeps until the Day of Judgment, or is annihilated and re-created.

Fudge & Peterson 2000, p. 173 -1: ‘the belief that according to divine revelation the soul does not exist as an independent substance after the death of the body’

Almond 1994, p. 38: …‘mortalist views – particularly of the sort which affirmed that the soul slept or died – were widespread in the Reformation period. George Williams has shown how prevalent mortalism was among the Reformation radicals.’


We are mortal. :)
We are mortal, and we have a soul
Mathew 26: 38 Then he said to them, My soul is overwelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.
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yes, we agree that 'angels' are 'ministering spirits', but where does it say in the 'scriptures'
that angels have a soul or that they 'do not have a soul',
please 'quote' your scripture for the specific scripture of 'angelic souls'...???
I see in the bible where man has a soul, spirit and body, 1 thessalonians 5: 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. I can only find that the angels are spirit, no soul.
 
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I used to wonder why I just 'loved' Michel and Gabriel -
now I know why...
 

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We are mortal, and we have a soul
Mathew 26: 38 Then he said to them, My soul is overwelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.

I see in the bible where man has a soul, spirit and body, 1 thessalonians 5: 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. I can only find that the angels are spirit, no soul.
Still an assumption on your part. How we view angels is not required for salvation or anything. Just know they serve.

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Still an assumption on your part. How we view angels is not required for salvation or anything. Just know they serve.

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The angeLs have the ability to choose to do our not to do. In jude 6 there were angels who chose to leave there own habitation. I just don't believe they have the ability to love. The angels will killed without a second thought on Gods command. 2 sammuel 24: 15 - 16 there are many others like that.
 

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The angeLs have the ability to choose to do our not to do. In jude 6 there were angels who chose to leave there own habitation. I just don't believe they have the ability to love. The angels will killed without a second thought on Gods command. 2 sammuel 24: 15 - 16 there are many others like that.
Still an assumption on your part. Maybe you just proved the opposite: They did rebel and sin. We don't know a lot about angels for a purpose. Some people study and worship them. It is best not to assume anything about them. It's not necessary.

 

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yes, we agree that 'angels' are 'ministering spirits', but where does it say in the 'scriptures'
that angels have a soul or that they 'do not have a soul',
please 'quote' your scripture for the specific scripture of 'angelic souls'...???
Hi oldethennew, do you even care what the angels have or don't have. I don't, I am just glad they are here to protect us. Our's outnumber their's 2 to 1.

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Still an assumption on your part. Maybe you just proved the opposite: They did rebel and sin. We don't know a lot about angels for a purpose. Some people study and worship them. It is best not to assume anything about them. It's not necessary.

I guess it's not necessary. But I do know we shouldn't worship them. Gods angels are not for us to worry about. It's the fallen angels that we need to worry about.
 

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