Are there still apostles today?

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joefizz

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#81
So not one word about Jesus's resurrection on the site,no mention of salvation, even no mention of this Sam Soleyn being saved just a bunch of lessons on morals and maturity yet this is an Apostle?
The answer would be "No".
 

Nehemiah6

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#82
I went to this website and under "Revelations" all that was listed was conferences. One would imagine that an apostle (who would also be a prophet as in Scripture) would have genuine revelations. In any event, he was discussing the 12 baskets of left-overs gathered up after the feeding of the five thousand in one of his articles. Which brings us right back to ONLY TWELVE APOSTLES.
 
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#83
really you all -

aren't we ALL who truly Love and truly Serve our Holy Saviour considered by HIM 'brethren', -
called, chosen, elected, to serve/obey/walk in His shoes, because we have been 'convicted'
by Yeshua's Holy Spirit???
 

calibob

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#84
You are right, I should explain my self better, While we as Christians can't know everything. We should be studying and learning. What I Have learned I believe with all my heart, I have learned that there are qualifying markers that make one an apostle. Those qualifiers cannot be performed after Yeshua's resurrection and ascension. When someone claims to be an apostle, I immediately shut them out. if I entertain it any further it so i can have something to laugh at. Your right i shouldn't be like that, it is one of my shortcomings.
I am sorry if i have offended you. I am learning that this is a forum for discussion and learning, But most people i have encountered are teaching as if God gave them the secret and only them, I am noticing that i am doing the same thing. I know what i believe, i'm not sure how to plant seeds, which is what im trying to do here, Please forgive me and be patient with me. I will get better.
YOU are fine by me I don't see eyye to eye with you'r political beliefs but It's still a nation with freedom of speach. My father was a vet, I'm a vet, my son is and my grand son enlisted after he graduated HS say whaever you want just don't tread on me. I discovered CC scores us for the reactions we draw and I didn't want mine to go against you becuase I'm against what the NAR is about. No problem:);)(y)
 
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pjharrison

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#85
I went to this website and under "Revelations" all that was listed was conferences. One would imagine that an apostle (who would also be a prophet as in Scripture) would have genuine revelations. In any event, he was discussing the 12 baskets of left-overs gathered up after the feeding of the five thousand in one of his articles. Which brings us right back to ONLY TWELVE APOSTLES.
Type into your browser is Sam soleyn an apostle
 
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pjharrison

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#86
So not one word about Jesus's resurrection on the site,no mention of salvation, even no mention of this Sam Soleyn being saved just a bunch of lessons on morals and maturity yet this is an Apostle?
The answer would be "No".
Type into your browser is Sam soleyn an apostle
 

Enocish

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#87
Just know I can be aggressive, And if I come on too strong just let me know.
 

calibob

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#89
well it's ok, enoch I'd rather make peace than war but I'm no snowflake. If it's in private so will my response be but if it's on a public forum, so will my response be.
 

CS1

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#90
More opinion with no scripture.

Here’s my scripture that refutes the unbiblical theory that there were no apostles until after the ascension.


And when He had called His twelve disciples to Him, He gave them power overunclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease. 2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; 3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; 4 Simon the Cananite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him.


5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 6 But go rather to thelost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick,cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 9 Provide neither gold nor silver nor copper in your money belts, 10 nor bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor staffs; for a worker is worthy of his food.
Matthew 10:1-10


JPT
No actually that is the context of eph 4:11 and the context of The "A" Apostles which was stated with scripture some time ago
 
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joefizz

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#91
All I found was multiple sites talking about his books and even one site declaring that he might be an apostle but that he is wrong and needs to repent and that what he promotes is "unhealthy" with all the conferencing he insists upon leading to "laziness" in the churches.
 

OstrichSmiling

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#92
really you all -

aren't we ALL who truly Love and truly Serve our Holy Saviour considered by HIM 'brethren', -
called, chosen, elected, to serve/obey/walk in His shoes, because we have been 'convicted'
by Yeshua's Holy Spirit???
That is why we're called Christians.
 
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#93
Just know I can be aggressive, And if I come on too strong just let me know.
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what's your game here??? - are you saying that you can't even 'discern' if you are being aggressive???

set your house in 'order' FIRST, then hopefully you can 'help' others...
 
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theanointedsinner

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#94
unless if they saw Jesus in person, dined with Jesus, and then fell into a time machine that sends them to modern age, I'm not sure how else could apostles possibly be here in modern age

unless, if you mean, do apostles exist in heaven right now? and depending on who you ask, that can be "yes" or some other strange doctrine
 
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#95
I wonder if they would "answer" your "questions" or be silent!(hahaha)
There is one that is a true Apostle. His name is Sam Soleyn. He lives by faith.
He is a dominionist. This is from his session 3:

"The administration of the power of the head resides upon the shoulders of the head of the Body. “Unto us a child is born. Unto us a Son is given and the government shall be upon His shoulders…” The administration of divine power, the administration of divine authority is committed to those who are partakers of the Divine nature. Our partaking of the divine nature makes us kings."

This is a rehash of the dominionist error of the Corinthians. Paul chides them on that:

You think you already have everything you need. You think you are already rich. You have begun to reign in God’s kingdom without us! I wish you really were reigning already, for then we would be reigning with you.
1 Corinthians 4:8 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/1co.4.8.NLT
 
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pjharrison

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#96
unless if they saw Jesus in person, dined with Jesus, and then fell into a time machine that sends them to modern age, I'm not sure how else could apostles possibly be here in modern age

unless, if you mean, do apostles exist in heaven right now? and depending on who you ask, that can be "yes" or some other strange doctrine
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He is a dominionist. This is from his session 3:

"The administration of the power of the head resides upon the shoulders of the head of the Body. “Unto us a child is born. Unto us a Son is given and the government shall be upon His shoulders…” The administration of divine power, the administration of divine authority is committed to those who are partakers of the Divine nature. Our partaking of the divine nature makes us kings."

This is a rehash of the dominionist error of the Corinthians. Paul chides them on that:

You think you already have everything you need. You think you are already rich. You have begun to reign in God’s kingdom without us! I wish you really were reigning already, for then we would be reigning with you.
1 Corinthians 4:8 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/1co.4.8.NLT
Did you look at some of his other teachings, I have been following him for a long time and I am sure he is an apostle. If he wasn't God wouldn't take care of him as he does. Everything on that website is free. His books are free. He do not sell the word of God. He said it is not his to sell.
 
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pjharrison

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unless if they saw Jesus in person, dined with Jesus, and then fell into a time machine that sends them to modern age, I'm not sure how else could apostles possibly be here in modern age

unless, if you mean, do apostles exist in heaven right now? and depending on who you ask, that can be "yes" or some other strange doctrine
Eph: 4:11-12
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Why does the bible say this. They didn't have bible then. This was written for us.
 
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Did you look at some of his other teachings, I have been following him for a long time and I am sure he is an apostle. If he wasn't God wouldn't take care of him as he does. Everything on that website is free. His books are free. He do not sell the word of God. He said it is not his to sell.
The only teaching that has power to change people is the meassage of the cross. All these "secret" teachings are just plain garbage as far as God is concerned.

When I first came to you, dear brothers and sisters, I didn’t use lofty words and impressive wisdom to tell you God’s secret plan. For I decided that while I was with you I would forget everything except Jesus Christ, the one who was crucified. I came to you in weakness—timid and trembling. And my message and my preaching were very plain. Rather than using clever and persuasive speeches, I relied only on the power of the Holy Spirit. I did this so you would trust not in human wisdom but in the power of God.
1 Corinthians 2:1‭-‬5 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/1co.2.1-5.NLT
 
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pjharrison

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He is a dominionist. This is from his session 3:

"The administration of the power of the head resides upon the shoulders of the head of the Body. “Unto us a child is born. Unto us a Son is given and the government shall be upon His shoulders…” The administration of divine power, the administration of divine authority is committed to those who are partakers of the Divine nature. Our partaking of the divine nature makes us kings."

This is a rehash of the dominionist error of the Corinthians. Paul chides them on that:

You think you already have everything you need. You think you are already rich. You have begun to reign in God’s kingdom without us! I wish you really were reigning already, for then we would be reigning with you.
1 Corinthians 4:8 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/1co.4.8.NLT
What he is talking about is trying to help us get ready for what is coming.
The only teaching that has power to change people is the meassage of the cross. All these "secret" teachings are just plain garbage as far as God is concerned.

When I first came to you, dear brothers and sisters, I didn’t use lofty words and impressive wisdom to tell you God’s secret plan. For I decided that while I was with you I would forget everything except Jesus Christ, the one who was crucified. I came to you in weakness—timid and trembling. And my message and my preaching were very plain. Rather than using clever and persuasive speeches, I relied only on the power of the Holy Spirit. I did this so you would trust not in human wisdom but in the power of God.
1 Corinthians 2:1‭-‬5 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/1co.2.1-5.NLT
What he was saying is that he had to dumb it down because if he would have spoken to them spiritually they wouldn't have understood, Because they have been kept in infancy. And if they were open for it, the Holy spirit would reveal it to them. That's why Jesus spoke to them in parables. He made it earthy, because they could understand the spiritual.
 

OneFaith

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Some Christians says that there are no more apostles today. Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers. Some Christians believe that the others are still around, but not the apostles.
Not on earth, there are only 12.