Are American Democrats turning to Socialism?

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Dem

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Yes, we do. Naive.
I have lived in countries where there is socialized medicine. I suspect you have either not done so, or you're taking the pro-SM approach to interject counter dialog.

American's are aware socialized medicine costs here.
Canadian's are certainly so. And those in Great Britain are absolutely without doubt aware of what it costs to have government in control of health care.
The nanny state has always been a failed model.
okie dokie its your lie you can tell it anyway you want
 

calibob

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the problem is tat the US Constitution and the federalist papers were written by capitolists for capitolists that's why we are a democratic republic and not a republican democracy. They were afraid the poor would take over and anarchy would rule over the rich. They still fear that which is why all atempts at socialized medicine here have only been half measures.
 

OstrichSmiling

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okie dokie its your lie you can tell it anyway you want
No, that sarcasm won't cut it. You've no idea of what you speak of so you think you're going to smart off toward those who do.
That's quite a shame.
 

Dem

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No, that sarcasm won't cut it. You've no idea of what you speak of so you think you're going to smart off toward those who do.
That's quite a shame.
I am a child of the most high God
No, that sarcasm won't cut it. You've no idea of what you speak of so you think you're going to smart off toward those who do.
That's quite a shame.
Here some real truth for you if you can handle it.
 

OstrichSmiling

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I am a child of the most high God

Here some real truth for you if you can handle it.
:oops: Paul Wittenberger informs your world view?
That explains quite a lot.

Debunked: The Great Culling - Paul Wittenberger and Chris Maple

Billed as a sequel to What in the World are They Spraying, The Great Culling is a highly inaccurate documentary that basically proposes that the powers-that-be are attempting to reduce the population of the Earth. In part they claim that this is being done by spraying "Chemtrails".

And Steven Anderson is part of the latest "film"? Anderson? Lord help us!
 

notuptome

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American democrats are socialists. They just lie to cover it up. The Germans were Democratic Socialists too before WW2.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

calibob

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American democrats are socialists. They just lie to cover it up. The Germans were Democratic Socialists too before WW2.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Yes thts what NAZI stands for but Hitler flipped and became fascist and the honest germans were betrayed. DSAs and Progresives don't and they call democrats in office Corporate Socialists. True socialists are not Marxists, Stalin lied. He,, lennin, Trotski and Crewchev were Marxists ie Communists. The difference is true Socialists ARE democratic and marxists/Communists are totalatarina. Czars, kings and Emporors are too.
 

calibob

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Hitler idolized Musolini. BTW Trump flipped on Putin today and admitted Russia did tamper with the 2016 election and called Putin a liar as per NYT today!
 

OstrichSmiling

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Hitler idolized Musolini. BTW Trump flipped on Putin today and admitted Russia did tamper with the 2016 election and called Putin a liar as per NYT today!
Do you know who one of the largest stock holders in the Left's NYT's is? George Soros.

 

OstrichSmiling

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Hitler idolized Musolini.
Until he didn't.

BTW Trump flipped on Putin today and admitted Russia did tamper with the 2016 election and called Putin a liar as per NYT today!
Not quite. So called key advisors with no name being said to have said this is hearsay. It is not Trump saying it as a credible report.
 

notuptome

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Yes thts what NAZI stands for but Hitler flipped and became fascist and the honest germans were betrayed. DSAs and Progresives don't and they call democrats in office Corporate Socialists. True socialists are not Marxists, Stalin lied. He,, lennin, Trotski and Crewchev were Marxists ie Communists. The difference is true Socialists ARE democratic and marxists/Communists are totalatarina. Czars, kings and Emporors are too.
Communism is socialism enforced by gunpoint. Society always breaks down. Our constitutional republic is being degraded to a democracy. Democracy is mob rule. Democracy will degrade into socialism. Socialism will degrade into communism and communism will degrade into totalitarianism.

God is not mocked. Man has sown discord and will receive that which he reaps.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

calibob

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Communism is socialism enforced by gunpoint. Society always breaks down. Our constitutional republic is being degraded to a democracy. Democracy is mob rule. Democracy will degrade into socialism. Socialism will degrade into communism and communism will degrade into totalitarianism.

God is not mocked. Man has sown discord and will receive that which he reaps.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
not realy, that's like saying the liver and kidneys are the same. Comunisim and marxism are the same and support a one party system and total government control over people, socialism is quite different where the people have total control over the government. What it often has became though, you are correct about because the people failed to enforce the rule of law over the government. Kind of like what would happen if only republicans or only democrats were in charge here. Comunium also opposes private property like houses. socialism only opposes large private businesses like banks and car companies. Plus communism opposes competition and socialism endorses competition

privatization of public services like schools and roads is fascisim, like the mini antichrist Hitler became. but the opposite like government welfare for banks and oil companies is communism Like the other mini antichrist Stalin did. Or don't you see the difference between STALIN and HITLER? The greatest president we ever had, FDR was as Socialist!

Have you been listening to the John Birch Society?
 

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American democrats are socialists. They just lie to cover it up. The Germans were Democratic Socialists too before WW2.

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Roger
NO that is wrong, Germany is a democratic socialist country now so is France, England ,Switzerland, Canada, Denmark ,Australia, on and on.
 

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Capitalism without socialism turns into fascism, Socialism without capitalism turns into communism.
democratic socialist countries now are France, England ,Switzerland, Canada, Denmark ,Australia, Germany on and on.
and they are all just as free as us if not freer
 

calibob

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The Brittish Labor party is socialist while their conservative party i very similsr to our republicans, and they get along better than we do!
 

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:oops: Paul Wittenberger informs your world view?
That explains quite a lot.

Debunked: The Great Culling - Paul Wittenberger and Chris Maple

Billed as a sequel to What in the World are They Spraying, The Great Culling is a highly inaccurate documentary that basically proposes that the powers-that-be are attempting to reduce the population of the Earth. In part they claim that this is being done by spraying "Chemtrails".

And Steven Anderson is part of the latest "film"? Anderson? Lord help us!
NO Jesus christ and His word does. And this particular vidio is right on. And who are you the judge a all knowing