Are angels real? Yes. ( Why?)Because they are in the BIBLE!

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He was obviously intently contemplating his reply.
Some people will engage with the intent to distinguish themselves it appears, lol! Let me help you, I posted this for mere encouragement, sharing and healthy dialog as the scriptures suggest we do amongst each other. Never let people tell you" This is what you meant to say". Quite frankly Satan duped Eve what she thought God said, hahah!
 
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There is no stand alone doctrine or literature to describe the origin of Angels. All references derive from the Holy scriptures. Angels are made by God. God has breath into the scriptures everything we need to know about these Heavenly beings.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

What is a Angel?
A Angel is:
1) messenger, a divine representative of God
a) the theophanic (a visible manifestation of a deity) angel

Angels serve in the capacities of, messengers, ministers, soldiers, choir, causing calamites and ambassadors. Angels are created to do the most profound to the smallest of acts ordered by God. God gave Moses the blue print to structure an image of two Cherubim fix atop of the Ark of the Covenant.

Not even Angels wants us to worship them. They have a perfect fear of reverencing God. In fact they will direct us to worship the Almighty.

Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship
him. And he said unto me, See [thou do it] not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy
The angels were created to serve man. Hebrews 1:14 14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation
Psalms 8: 4-6
4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
This is only my opinion; I believe that God didn't choose angels for his inheritance because he wanted children who could love him and his righteousness. The angels can only serve, or not serve, and are not capable of loving.
 

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This is only my opinion; I believe that God didn't choose angels for his inheritance because he wanted children who could love him and his righteousness. The angels can only serve, or not serve, and are not capable of loving.
I don't know about angels not loving, I always thought that angels were rejoicing with God in the following:

Luke 15:7
"I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance."


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I don't know about angels not loving, I always thought that angels were rejoicing with God in the following:

Luke 15:7 "I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance."


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The Bible tells us that they are ministering spirits. They only do what God tells them.
 
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The angels that did not rebel against God when Lucifer rebelled against God no longer have a choice, but only can see the ways of God and can never rebel, the same as the saints when they are with Jesus they will no longer have a choice, but can only see the ways of God, which to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.

We are not to worship angels, or reverence them, which some people like to do that and believe in a God thinking the angels are something special above people, and also all worship, and reverence goes to God, and the new age movement reverences angels as something special, which the Bible warns us of the new age movement at the latter times, which interpret the Bible according to evolution, and people can still evolve to be greater, and are waiting for the New Age Christ to appear to cause them to evolve to be greater, and spiritual, and he is the final teacher in the evolutionary process, and they will be like the man Jesus an ascended master and avatar(1 Timothy 4:1-5,2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The new age movement is the beginning of the end and will lead the world in to rebelling against God in which God will end this sin business on earth, in which Alice Bailey who laid the foundation of the new age movement although she liked teachers before her like Madam Blavatsky who said Satan is both God and the devil, that look at the Bible according to an occult interpretation, believed that Lucifer is a solar angel, and did not fall in to sin and disgrace, but ascended from Venus to Earth years ago to being the principle of mind to the then animal-man, and will appear in the future to cause all who follow him to evolve to be spiritual, and she wrote years ago of the coming one world government, religious system which will be based on evolution, and that is religion, and spirituality, and the time they will not endure the truth of the Bible, but according to their own lusts, power through nature to evolve, and the coming New Age Christ.

The fallen angels will work in the world at the latter times, especially during the last 7 years, that they never could work before, for God is allowing the people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom in Revelation so He can end this sin business on earth.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature.

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Jesus is the firstborn of all creatures, and the beginning of the creation of God, although He was not born until 4000 years later, because God calls things that have not happened yet, as though they already happened.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and that plan was with God before He laid down the foundation of the world, and that plan was God manifest in the flesh.
Joh 1:2 That plan was with God before He started creation.
Joh 1:3 All things were created with the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and without that plan God would of not created anything that He created, for Jesus is the reason creation is successful, eternal life, and to judge the wicked both angels and people.

It was all made for people and the angels assist in that salvation, and to help people, for God manifest in the flesh is the first plan God had before He started creation, which Jesus is God, but He is also human.

Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

The angels are ministering spirits to the saints.

1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels(to show her authority above the angels).

1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

The angels desire to look into the salvation of the saints, for the saints will have a higher position than that of the angels in heaven, for they will have a glorified body like the man Christ Jesus' glorified body, which is God's glorified body, the visible image to the saints, and rule with Christ in the millennial reign, a privilege the angels will never have, and it was all made for people.

An angel might be mightier than a saint dwelling in flesh, which Jesus was made a little lower than the angels because of His flesh, but the angels would not want to tangle with a saint when they receive their glorified body.

So why worship, or reverence angels, when a saint is actually greater than them.

Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

The only way a person can entertain an angel is if they can see them, so they must appear in flesh to help people.
 
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The Bible tells us that they are ministering spirits. They only do what God tells them.
That doesn't keep them from the capacity to love. A third of them rebelled, that should tell us they are given to emotion.


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Mark 12:25 25When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
There is really no where in the bible that says that they could not love, but I assume they cannot and that is the reason God chose man for his inheritance. Hebrews 2:6-9 6But there is a place where someone has testified: "What is mankind that you are mindful of them, a son of man that you care for him? 7You made them a little lower than the angels; you crowned them with glory and honor 8and put everything under their feet." In putting everything under them, God left nothing that is not subject to them. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to them. 9But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.
 
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The angels that did not rebel against God when Lucifer rebelled against God no longer have a choice, but only can see the ways of God and can never rebel, the same as the saints when they are with Jesus they will no longer have a choice, but can only see the ways of God, which to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.

We are not to worship angels, or reverence them, which some people like to do that and believe in a God thinking the angels are something special above people, and also all worship, and reverence goes to God, and the new age movement reverences angels as something special, which the Bible warns us of the new age movement at the latter times, which interpret the Bible according to evolution, and people can still evolve to be greater, and are waiting for the New Age Christ to appear to cause them to evolve to be greater, and spiritual, and he is the final teacher in the evolutionary process, and they will be like the man Jesus an ascended master and avatar(1 Timothy 4:1-5,2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The new age movement is the beginning of the end and will lead the world in to rebelling against God in which God will end this sin business on earth, in which Alice Bailey who laid the foundation of the new age movement although she liked teachers before her like Madam Blavatsky who said Satan is both God and the devil, that look at the Bible according to an occult interpretation, believed that Lucifer is a solar angel, and did not fall in to sin and disgrace, but ascended from Venus to Earth years ago to being the principle of mind to the then animal-man, and will appear in the future to cause all who follow him to evolve to be spiritual, and she wrote years ago of the coming one world government, religious system which will be based on evolution, and that is religion, and spirituality, and the time they will not endure the truth of the Bible, but according to their own lusts, power through nature to evolve, and the coming New Age Christ.

The fallen angels will work in the world at the latter times, especially during the last 7 years, that they never could work before, for God is allowing the people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom in Revelation so He can end this sin business on earth.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature.

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Jesus is the firstborn of all creatures, and the beginning of the creation of God, although He was not born until 4000 years later, because God calls things that have not happened yet, as though they already happened.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and that plan was with God before He laid down the foundation of the world, and that plan was God manifest in the flesh.
Joh 1:2 That plan was with God before He started creation.
Joh 1:3 All things were created with the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and without that plan God would of not created anything that He created, for Jesus is the reason creation is successful, eternal life, and to judge the wicked both angels and people.

It was all made for people and the angels assist in that salvation, and to help people, for God manifest in the flesh is the first plan God had before He started creation, which Jesus is God, but He is also human.

Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

The angels are ministering spirits to the saints.

1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels(to show her authority above the angels).

1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

The angels desire to look into the salvation of the saints, for the saints will have a higher position than that of the angels in heaven, for they will have a glorified body like the man Christ Jesus' glorified body, which is God's glorified body, the visible image to the saints, and rule with Christ in the millennial reign, a privilege the angels will never have, and it was all made for people.

An angel might be mightier than a saint dwelling in flesh, which Jesus was made a little lower than the angels because of His flesh, but the angels would not want to tangle with a saint when they receive their glorified body.

So why worship, or reverence angels, when a saint is actually greater than them.

Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

The only way a person can entertain an angel is if they can see them, so they must appear in flesh to help people.
I love it! AMEN!