Can no longer separate sex from sin

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theanointedsinner

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People, I have tried literally everything I can think of to get closer to God for years. And it seems like every step forward is followed by two steps back. Just because I'm not close to God doesn't mean I'm not trying. You wouldn't say the same thing to someone who was sick and has been trying for years to get better. Oh, wait. You probably would.

God wants my faith? I want his.
know what I think is prayer warrior's favorite bible verse? (in my opinion)
"even if we are faithless, God is faithful" (2 timothy 2:13)
 

Enocish

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People, I have tried literally everything I can think of to get closer to God for years. And it seems like every step forward is followed by two steps back. Just because I'm not close to God doesn't mean I'm not trying. You wouldn't say the same thing to someone who was sick and has been trying for years to get better. Oh, wait. You probably would.

God wants my faith? I want his.
Who told you that you were not close to God.
Could it be that you are misunderstanding?

I can take you back to my earlier post, and show you were you misunderstood almost the whole post. Based on your reply to Ugly, you misunderstood everything I posted to you.

So could it possible you are misinterpreting something.
 

Jewel5712

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It talks in the Bible quite extensively bout love..loving God..loving your neighbor..children..wife ..each other etc..
so clearly, let's take the bible in context, not out of context, or else :censored: or worse[/QUOTE]

What????? I didnt quote any scripture!
 

Jewel5712

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Just know its not on HIS part and good thing..YOU can always change the fact of not being close..God meets you where you are :)
You don't know how hard I've tried for many months.[/QUOTE]

Pm me if you want? I think i can help..if nothing else..can e a good listener..
 

Jewel5712

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Usually lust comes first..then love..and the longer love grows it becomes deeper and more intimate..only natural...
do we lust after Jesus first before
um, what? how do we love God?[/QUOTE]

And..i think you quoted me wromg or misunderstood..my comment was based on man amd women..i didnt understand what you said bout lusting after God..thats why i put a question mark there..quoted no scripture so im not taking anything out of context...and i didnt say lust is biblical..i said its "natural" (if we all want to be honest bout things)
 
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theanointedsinner

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do we lust after Jesus first before
um, what? how do we love God?[/ QUOTE]

And..i think you quoted me wromg or misunderstood..my comment was based on man amd women..i didnt understand what you said bout lusting after God..thats why i put a question mark there..quoted no scripture so im not taking anything out of context...and i didnt say lust is biblical..i said its "natural" (if we all want to be honest bout things)
Jewel, let's pray for proper understanding, how do we talk to God about my misunderstanding?
 

Enocish

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Hello all
I am going say one last thing.
then I will take it somewhere else,
It seems like there are a lot of folks with good hearts and good ideas,
And good intentions.
It also seems everybody including myself is being misunderstood and misunderstanding,
It also again seems to me we are leaving Christ out of the conversation,
For those who love the lord, all things are possible through Christ Jesus, for those who ask.
That was directed at everyone.
This is directed at History Princess,
It always seems to me that when I feel like I am alone, and everything I do fails no matter how hard I try.
( believe me, it happens more than I care to admit ).
I turn to the lord and ask why what am I doing wrong.
it always seems that I am either going in the wrong direction,
( because I have my own ideas and agenda. )
Or I'm doing it wrong.
( in a way that puts me in a bad place when I get what I want )
or I'm not waiting on his timing,
So maybe you should look not into what you are doing,
But how you are doing it,
Or maybe when you are doing it,
I have had this happen to me,
But where you're doing it,

A wise man once told me,
If you want to do something, Try it once, if it fails,
change the way you are doing it, and try a second time. If it fails again.
Make another change, Then try a third time, If it fails that time.
Then that's a sign that God doesn't want that for you.
or it's not time. and you should wait on the lord.
Then you should stop and go in a different direction,
doing something else totally unrelated.
All the while communicating with Christ about what you are doing.
Remember this is just between you and him.
Now before you misunderstand and get angry.
I'm not telling you what to do, or how to do it.
Or even that you are doing it wrong.
This is just food for thought, something to think about and consider.
Have a good rest of your life and I hope you get it figured out.

Stay in his word every day, why you ask because Jesus is the living word.
 
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Hello all
I am going say one last thing.
then I will take it somewhere else,
It seems like there are a lot of folks with good hearts and good ideas,
And good intentions.
It also seems everybody including myself is being misunderstood and misunderstanding,
It also again seems to me we are leaving Christ out of the conversation,
For those who love the lord, all things are possible through Christ Jesus, for those who ask.
That was directed at everyone.
This is directed at History Princess,
It always seems to me that when I feel like I am alone, and everything I do fails no matter how hard I try.
( believe me, it happens more than I care to admit ).
I turn to the lord and ask why what am I doing wrong.
it always seems that I am either going in the wrong direction,
( because I have my own ideas and agenda. )
Or I'm doing it wrong.
( in a way that puts me in a bad place when I get what I want )
or I'm not waiting on his timing,
So maybe you should look not into what you are doing,
But how you are doing it,
Or maybe when you are doing it,
I have had this happen to me,
But where you're doing it,

A wise man once told me,
If you want to do something, Try it once, if it fails,
change the way you are doing it, and try a second time. If it fails again.
Make another change, Then try a third time, If it fails that time.
Then that's a sign that God doesn't want that for you.
or it's not time. and you should wait on the lord.
Then you should stop and go in a different direction,
doing something else totally unrelated.
All the while communicating with Christ about what you are doing.
Remember this is just between you and him.
Now before you misunderstand and get angry.
I'm not telling you what to do, or how to do it.
Or even that you are doing it wrong.
This is just food for thought, something to think about and consider.
Have a good rest of your life and I hope you get it figured out.

Stay in his word every day, why you ask because Jesus is the living word.
Thank you for your encouragement. Seriously.
 

Demi777

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If Sex was sin, God wouldn't have commanded us to be fruitful and multiply. God doesn't command us to sin. That's ridiculous
Its not easy to find a good partner. Even if you marry, that doea not give u a all sex u want thing.
Look up for a person who loves you for you past the sex. All will fade away some time. Love stands, desire will fade after time.
I wish you the best. Stay safe
 

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Jewel, let's pray for proper understanding, how do we talk to God about my misunderstanding?
I believe that conversation would be between you and God and no one else.

Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together..."


OK, God is waiting. Your turn...
 

Demi777

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https://relevantmagazine.com/curren...into-sea/?mc_cid=21271e391c&mc_eid=d8a16ef905

Yet another case of child sexual abuse. It's sad that these no longer surprise me anymore. But now you can hopefully see where I'm coming from. Sex and sexual drives in the long run end up doing way more harm than good.
Blaming sex Drive for harm is like blaming bottles for making people drunk and knives kill people.
To be honest, your way of thinking feds me upa. IveI been through sexual abuse and still I have a loving relationship. Plus you dare to challenge and insult God and his ability of seperating the right from wrong (and that already feom the beginning of creation)
And why? Because u are unsatisfied and bitter because of it and try to find excuses and blame what u lack instead of doing something about it and try to find someone. Laziness or is it so nice to hide behind lies and deception your making up for yourself to stay safe in your own made up world.
You necessarily need some help.
 
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Blaming sex Drive for harm is like blaming bottles for making people drunk and knives kill people.
To be honest, your way of thinking feds me upa. IveI been through sexual abuse and still I have a loving relationship. Plus you dare to challenge and insult God and his ability of seperating the right from wrong (and that already feom the beginning of creation)
And why? Because u are unsatisfied and bitter because of it and try to find excuses and blame what u lack instead of doing something about it and try to find someone. Laziness or is it so nice to hide behind lies and deception your making up for yourself to stay safe in your own made up world.
You necessarily need some help.
You don't speak for me. I speak for myself. I am not unsatisfied or bitter. I see a hurting fallen world and most of it is because of sexual sin. The only useful purpose for it is reproduction. But we now have in-vitro fertilization plus the world is already overpopulated. We don't need to bring in more people in a hurting world than is necessary.

I am very sorry that happened to you. I often feel guilty of the blessings I have because I know I have it way better than most people. And I know I don't deserve any of it.

And don't tell me this doesn't have any church backing. Augustine himself believed sex for any purpose other than having babies is sin, as does the Catholic church. In the Middle Ages there were cases of nunneries and monasteries that were thought to be demon-possession, when in reality, they were just reacting to being so sexually repressed.

But why should those two be separated? Such longings cause us to act like animals. But we are not animals.
 
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You don't speak for me. I speak for myself. I am not unsatisfied or bitter. I see a hurting fallen world and most of it is because of sexual sin. The only useful purpose for it is reproduction. But we now have in-vitro fertilization plus the world is already overpopulated. We don't need to bring in more people in a hurting world than is necessary.

I am very sorry that happened to you. I often feel guilty of the blessings I have because I know I have it way better than most people. And I know I don't deserve any of it.

And don't tell me this doesn't have any church backing. Augustine himself believed sex for any purpose other than having babies is sin, as does the Catholic church. In the Middle Ages there were cases of nunneries and monasteries that were thought to be demon-possession, when in reality, they were just reacting to being so sexually repressed.

But why should those two be separated? Such longings cause us to act like animals. But we are not animals.
For that matter, the Bible itself views the body negatively, especially in the New Testament.

And this hatred of life itself permeates the entire New Testament. The body is totally sinful. Only by dying can we escape sin. (Rom.
6:6) We must mortify the flesh, for only the spirit is good. (Rom. 7:14-25, 13:14) The flesh and the spirit are totally opposed. (Gal. 5:16) One must sacrifice this life for the next. (Mat. 16:24, 18:7, Mk. 9:43, 10:23) Any suffering is to be endured in this life for the greater glory of the next. (Rom. 8:18) He who loves this life will die, he who hates it will live eternally ... (Jn. 12:25) One should live in constant guilt and fear of Hell. (Mat. 5:27) Christians should not laugh or be happy. (Eph. 5:4) Be wretched, cringe, weep, do not be happy and you will be saved. (Jas. 4:9) Paul even says he whips himself (Cor. 9:27), and (Cor. 11:1) we must all imitate him!
 

Demi777

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You don't speak for me. I speak for myself. I am not unsatisfied or bitter. I see a hurting fallen world and most of it is because of sexual sin. The only useful purpose for it is reproduction. But we now have in-vitro fertilization plus the world is already overpopulated. We don't need to bring in more people in a hurting world than is necessary.

I am very sorry that happened to you. I often feel guilty of the blessings I have because I know I have it way better than most people. And I know I don't deserve any of it.

And don't tell me this doesn't have any church backing. Augustine himself believed sex for any purpose other than having babies is sin, as does the Catholic church. In the Middle Ages there were cases of nunneries and monasteries that were thought to be demon-possession, when in reality, they were just reacting to being so sexually repressed.

But why should those two be separated? Such longings cause us to act like animals. But we are not animals.
The earth is not overpopulated. Thats fake news, in fact there is space for many more to comedo.
Making love is not just to reproduce, it is becoming one (also a commandment of God) because he made men in a way that they need a woman.
Rebellion and pride are the main root of evil, not sexa
Augustine is not God. What God says counts, not some mere man
 

Demi777

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For that matter, the Bible itself views the body negatively, especially in the New Testament.

And this hatred of life itself permeates the entire New Testament. The body is totally sinful. Only by dying can we escape sin. (Rom.
6:6) We must mortify the flesh, for only the spirit is good. (Rom. 7:14-25, 13:14) The flesh and the spirit are totally opposed. (Gal. 5:16) One must sacrifice this life for the next. (Mat. 16:24, 18:7, Mk. 9:43, 10:23) Any suffering is to be endured in this life for the greater glory of the next. (Rom. 8:18) He who loves this life will die, he who hates it will live eternally ... (Jn. 12:25) One should live in constant guilt and fear of Hell. (Mat. 5:27) Christians should not laugh or be happy. (Eph. 5:4) Be wretched, cringe, weep, do not be happy and you will be saved. (Jas. 4:9) Paul even says he whips himself (Cor. 9:27), and (Cor. 11:1) we must all imitate him!
Ever read all of these in context with worda studies or did u copy and paste all that