Is Prosperity For The Present Church?

So you believe abundant may not rich

God will never give us more than we can handle and that includes wealth.

Yes, having abundant life doesn’t automatically mean being rich.

Look at some of the famous missionaries.
Hudson Taylor for example who worked in China,
He put all his all into being a missionary and definately multipled
as seed was sown spreading the gospel. Yet he still had to live in a
fallen world, his wife died at 33, most of his children died young but like
Abraham, he made a massive impact which still is having an impact in
the world today.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/missionaries/hudson-taylor.html

Amy Carmichael who went to India and Japan.

https://www.christianity.com/church...amy-carmichael-kindly-kidnapper-11630664.html

Gladys Aylwood in China

http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/73.html

Plus many many more.

I often think these missionaries of old have a lot to teach us but
not many even seem to have read about them or know of them
any more.

They knew multiplication and what it was to live an abundant life.
There are even people on here on CC who do or have done amazing
things, wonderful acts of kindness who have been a blessing.

One person on here lives an amazing abundant life despite
personal health issues. I don’t think she even realises it!
Chaplain work, FB mental health groups, various other groups etc.

Another person got a work team together to help out a member.

Another helped men caught up in problems.

I’m sure there are many more too, though I doubt you would call them
millionaires!

Think about it, if God made you a millionaire, what would you do with it.
Would it change you and in what way. Would you still rely on God for
everything. How would it affect your relationship with Christ.

Look at Job he had everything, lost everything, then gained it all back and
more. Throughout it all he remained faithful and put God first he never
neglected God. Could you say the same if you suddenly gained material
wealth. If the answer is no, then material wealth would not be a blessing
to you, it would be a curse and you would not live an abundant life.
The man who tore down his barns to build bigger barns was only thinking
of himself. His wealth was not a blessing it led to his destruction.

God will never give us more than we can handle and that includes wealth.

If we are elect. Other ones get many things they cannot handle and lose their faith.

Also, the verse is about temptations. So you are basically saying that wealth is a temptation.

If God make me millioner, am I rich?

Respectfully, the word is "millionaire".

Brother Dino,

I was asked in another forum; "how much does a believer need to have, to be materially rich?"

My answer is : zero mount. Anyone in Christ Jesus is super rich (including materially) even with zero account balance on earth.

And my text for that definition is Revelation 2: 9

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

I just wanted to know your take on this...

Brother Adstar,

We meet again as I said.
I have a question for you... If you say the scripture is speaking of the millennial reign. Will you also be bold enough to assert that believers has to wait till the millennial reign for their hearts to be changed; and for them to also receive the Holy Ghost?

Because that's exactly the implication of your comment.

yeah, I believe all a believer need to be rich( including materially), is to believe in Jesus; and also believe that because he is Christ Jesus, he is also super rich in all ramification.[/QU

Emekrus, from which NT Text you come to the conclusion that all christians become Material Rich during live in the Time before our Father created new earth and heaven?

yeah, I believe all a believer need to be rich( including materially), is to believe in Jesus; and also believe that because he is Christ Jesus, he is also super rich in all ramification.

yeah, I believe all a believer need to be rich( including materially), is to believe in Jesus; and also believe that because he is Christ Jesus, he is also super rich in all ramification.

I have yet to see money rain down from heaven.

I can think several ways to have money....... work, investments, inherit, as a benefactor or steal, all of them take some form of human action.

Neither am I saying money rains from heaven. The Lord says he will bless the works of our hands. And he also says if we give, men will give to us back in multiplied fold. We don't need to cajole the men to give us but according to God's word, men will give to us as we give.

The money doesn't have to rain from heaven.

Read revelation 5:12. One of the things the Lord received for us is riches.

Brother Dino,

I was asked in another forum; "how much does a believer need to have, to be materially rich?"

My answer is : zero mount. Anyone in Christ Jesus is super rich (including materially) even with zero account balance on earth.

And my text for that definition is Revelation 2: 9

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

I just wanted to know your take on this...

Respectfully, the word is "millionaire".

Than It easier for camel go in to the eye of the nidle then me go to heaven, is God not love me? Why He give me hard time to enter the heaven?