Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

...But this brings me to my question(s)…. Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

You know Peter talks about how we are sojourners here living in earthly booths/tents…. I think in one of the Peters.... this is coming from memory... it can be looked up. Any way... I forget sometimes to keep my eye on the prize heaven. But that is what the walk is for, humbling ones self, esteeming others higher that myself, oh my.... obedience…. to the point of death of the flesh....

Paul said (somewhere), if the resurrection was not real then we are men to be most pitied.

The Bible describes heavens beauty... The 12 gates are made of 12 pearls... now that is some 12 pearls…. to be solid like that, my own mansion, and seeing my cat Loopy playing with her cousins' the lions (the lamb will lay down with the lion)((why not a cat play with a lion)).

I have heard some preach if you are not a "giant" in faith on earth you will get a job shoving manure in heaven. We will work in heaven for the Lord and our actions determine our jobs in heaven.

Now, I hate working so that just seams false to me to bein with....lol But this brings me to my question(s)…. Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

huh

well God knows I'm not about fancy

really would prefer something in the woods by a lake and might need to shovel manure as I would love to have a few horses

I am also positive God would not force me to live in a big mansion on a gold street because that would not suit me at all

so I say let the giants have at the big houses and all the hoopla

I'll be happy to ride a horse in front of Jesus announcing His presence and serve Him in the capacity He sees fit

I have a big imagination but I have no idea if any of that will occur

what I do know, is this

9 But as it is written:

“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

I Corinthians 2:9

You know Peter talks about how we are sojourners here living in earthly booths/tents…. I think in one of the Peters.... this is coming from memory... it can be looked up. Any way... I forget sometimes to keep my eye on the prize heaven. But that is what the walk is for, humbling ones self, esteeming others higher that myself, oh my.... obedience…. to the point of death of the flesh....

Paul said (somewhere), if the resurrection was not real then we are men to be most pitied.

The Bible describes heavens beauty... The 12 gates are made of 12 pearls... now that is some 12 pearls…. to be solid like that, my own mansion, and seeing my cat Loopy playing with her cousins' the lions (the lamb will lay down with the lion)((why not a cat play with a lion)).

I have heard some preach if you are not a "giant" in faith on earth you will get a job shoving manure in heaven. We will work in heaven for the Lord and our actions determine our jobs in heaven.

Now, I hate working so that just seams false to me to bein with....lol But this brings me to my question(s)…. Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

If you want some first hand experienced related to heaven go to youtube and search for NDE = near death experiences. These are stories by people who have died, gone to heaven, and returned to live on earth again.

Yes. And we can know something of it from scripture, and all the unfallen worlds, with the unfallen beings therein. Want to study a bit? Let me know.

Here is an online booklet, Heaven, by Pastor Joe Crews

This book (compilation) may also be to your liking - "Heaven" - http://www.centrowhite.org.br/files/ebooks/egw-english/books/Heaven.pdf

Do you believe them?

If you want some first hand experienced related to heaven go to youtube and search for NDE = near death experiences. These are stories by people who have died, gone to heaven, and returned to live on earth again.

This is SDA propaganda, and it is full of holes as usual. Nobody is going to heaven, at least until the millennial reign is over. The millennial reign is here on earth.

Rev. 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

Rev. 5:10 "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

So you see heaven "the kingdom of" is coming to earth for the millennial reign. After that death and the grave will be eliminated (Rev. 20:14) and we will rule the universe from our home base New Jerusalem, here on earth.

I have thought of heaven. I hope to see my dad there and give him a hug and Jesus a hug. I don't know if my dad is ever able to see me from above. I don't know how that works.

I have thought of heaven. I hope to see my dad there and give him a hug and Jesus a hug. I don't know if my dad is ever able to see me from above. I don't know how that works.

the great croud of witness

I personally do not believe that the great croud of witness can see us on Earth.... those that have moved home, because I do believe there is NO sadness or sorrow in heaven. But when we get to heaven we will know them, and us and rejoice in the Lord.

This really isn't the thread for this, is it? I was attempting to be helpful on OP, and I can also demonstrate the veractiy of everything in those two links from scripture (KJB) which is what I offered before them both.

You are mistaken, and combined two passages which are not speaking of the same timeframe,

Here are the texts of Revelation 20:1-6 KJB cited:


Please notice, that in these texts [Revelation 20:1-6 KJB], there is no where written that either Jesus, or the “saints” (or “satan” for that matter), shall “reign upon the earth” for 1,000 years, but simply says [vss. 4,6] that Jesus and the saints reigned “a thousand years”. The location of this 1,000 reign is nowhere stated to be “upon the earth” in these, or any passages of scripture [KJB]. One should very carefully look for themselves. It also is very clearly written that “satan” himself was not reigning during this “thousand years”, but is “bound” and “shut … up” with a “seal” placed “upon him”.

The phrase “the day of the Lord” [Isaiah 2:12, 13:6,9, 34:8; Jeremiah 46:10; Lamentations 2:22; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31, 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 1:15; Zephaniah 1:7,8,14,18, 2:2,3; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi 4:5; Acts 2:20; 1 Corinthians 5:5; 2 Corinthians 1:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Peter 3:10 KJB], is a direct reference to the “thousand years” [Revelation 20:2,3,4,5,6,7 KJB, see also Isaiah 24:22 KJB, “many days”], which is the final “day”, the 7th day – the great Sabbath, of the great week “with the Lord” [2 Peter 3:8 KJB].

The second Advent of Jesus Christ, wherein the “saints” are “caught up together … in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air” [1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Revelation 20:1-6 KJB] is but the beginning of the “thousand years” or “the day of the Lord”, while the third Advent of Jesus Christ [Zechariah 14:1-21; Revelation 20:7-10 KJB] is the ending of the “thousand years” or “the day of the Lord”, after which the finally impenitent shall be utterly destroyed in the second death, and finally the “New Heavens” and the “New Earth” are recreated [Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:1 KJB].

Revelation 19-22 KJB, is parallel to Isaiah 24 KJB, and so also connected to Leviticus 16:1-34, 23:26-32 KJB (chart follows, which I cannot easily reproduce here, since it is an sort of excel format).


Read carefully these texts, and we shall see that the “saints” mentioned in them, are not in Heaven, but are alive upon this present earth, sending their prayers and affirmations Heavenward, and that the 24 Elders and the 4 Beasts [leaders, and the beings of the nations of the unfallen worlds, 4 being the universal number, meaning all, and beast as a nation/kingdom/dominion: see Revelation 4:4,10, 5:5,6,8,11,14, 7:11,13, 11:16, 14:3, 19:4, see also “ancients”: Isaiah 24:23 KJB & see Ezekiel 1:5,13,14,15,19, 3:13, 10:1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,15,16,18,19,20, 11:22; “four beasts”: Revelation 4:6,8, 5:6,8,11,14, 6:1,6, 7:11, 14:3, 15:7, 19:4 KJB], take up a work in the Heavenly Sanctuary, bearing the prayers of the living “saints” upon the earth to God, under the direction of the Great High Priest Jesus.

The “reign upon the earth” comes after 1,000 years [Revelation 20:2,3,4,5,6,7 KJB], for the “saints” must be both resurrected and/or translated, glorified, and brought back to Heaven [John 14:1-4; 1 Thessalonians 4:17, etc KJB] at the Second Advent and First Great Resurrection, to “reign” in Heaven, for 1,000 years [Revelation 20:4,5a,6 KJB] going over the record books of the lost [1 Corinthians 6:2,3 KJB]:


As for the word "bottomless pit", as found in the GNT TR of Revelation 9:1,2,11, 11:7, 17:8, 20:1, it is the Koine Greek "αβυσσου" [abussou, or abyssou], in GNT TR of Revelation 20:3, it is again "αβυσσον" [abusson, or abysson], which in the transliterated English is the word "abyss", which according to the first use in Genesis, means the "deep", being in "darkness", and "without form and void [empty of/having no life]", thus is associated with a dark chaotic wilderness/desert [water or earth], symbolic of death/no life.

Back to the OP please.

My second wife had a NDE and she feels she talked with God. She told Him she wanted to watch her baby grow up. She did not know where she was at but next thing she was back in her body, alive. We both believe scripture tells us that the dead are asleep. God allowed her that vision for a purpose, but He knew He wasn't keeping her at that time. Hence, just a vision. She says it is just as real as anything else in her life.

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True about no sadness in heaven, but that does not rule out the possibly of your loved ones in heaven seeing the happy times in your life. If I ever get married and if God wills it, maybe my dad will get to see it.

We can at least agree that nobody is in heaven yet.

I can't imagine why anyone would lie about such an experience. To try to say that everyone should have the same experience is very questionable. My grandmother had an operation on her throat and was dead for 7 minutres during which time she went to heaven. She was dranw through a tunnel to a bright light and met Jesus. She also met her mother and father and was shocked by how young they looked and that they were naked. She said she saw them in a beautiful garden where the grass and flowers and trees and even the water glowed with an inner light. Very beautiful and nothing like earth. I am sure she was not lying.