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BillG

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There is no such *guide* per se. But the logical place to start is with the Gospel of John and then go to the epistle to the Romans. That Gospel is designed to bring sinners to the Savior, while that epistle is designed to teach us the full truth about God's salvation.
Ah yes the Gospel of John for me is the go to gospel to read.

I as a believer who really struggled had a real downer on myself.
I read the N.T from front to back.

The only things I ever saw that jumped out were the negative stuff that I had been taught. Things like be obedient to be saved, be baptised to be saved. It all seemed to focus on at some point God will reject me.

I was laid up with a bad back for a few days.
God asked me to spend time with him, after the 4th time of asking I picked up my Bible.

I felt lead to read many verses and it culminated with this one.

John 17:23
23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

It was like took a bullet and shot it into my heart.

I was in tears, dumfounded.

God loves me as much as he loves Jesus.
That's my go to with people who are struggling.
I would say I was surprised but in fact having been there when I ask people who are struggling "Do you know that God loves you as much as he loves Jesus?
They say no he doesn't.

When we know that then it really does set us free.
 

BillG

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Personally I have made endeavours to read from Genesis to Revelations a goal.
Never achieved that Goal.

Always stopped at Leviticus.

However given that we have Bible apps I think I have probably learned a lot more.
I look at a verse on the app.
Then I open up the resources to that verse.
Then it explains it and gives you all the verses that relate to it from the OT & the NT.
Gives the historical context as well.
I use the ESV/NKJ which explains the Greek word as well, and this gives the meaning of the word as well.

I quite like doing it that way as it works for me and as a result I have come to learn the grace and treasures of God in both the OT & NT.
 

iamsoandso

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That is funny. You must really hate dispensationalism.

Unfortunately you have embraced the heresy of preterism, so joking about dispensationalism as a deception is ironic on another level.

I think he's probably no more or less frustrated than most the more you ponder eschatology,lol . I know of a fact that if you ask him certain things that he does not know how to give an answer to he wont just make up something and will tell you that he doesn't have an answer to every detail. Honesty goes a long ways with all of this if you think about it,it's like taking notice of some man who might lie to himself while shaving,and then tells the same lie to his family afterwards(not much love right?). But he believes the same Lord saved him on the same cross so I count him as my brother,,,(though we see different,lol)...