Is Jesus Christ YHWH God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob??

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charisenexcelcis

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umm...ok...

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"The word "hex" came out of the same time period when popular opinion was that all Jews were devil worshippers. Modern occultists have been taken in by this, including the freemasons.


but....."hex" is a GREEK word. it means SIX.
did you mean to say that the Greek period was the "time period when popular opinion was that all Jews were devil worshippers"? and if so, why would the greeks attach a symbol of 6 as a curse against the jews?
No. Only that the Greek word hex was not used in this way. It was only during the medeival period that the word hex was used in that way.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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i occassionally think about living in fear of God, who finds occultism in all its forms abominable. numerology, pentagrams, hexagrams: He doesn't seem to like any of it. they kinda burned their magic arts books in Acts if i recall....better safe than sorry i guess

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There is a Christian numerology--the importance of certain numbers such as seven, three, forty, twelve....I believe that excesses in it are dangerous. This is the definition of sorcery that I use: A physical act intended to manipulate a spiritual power for a selfish purpose.
 

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There is a Christian numerology--the importance of certain numbers such as seven, three, forty, twelve....I believe that excesses in it are dangerous. This is the definition of sorcery that I use: A physical act intended to manipulate a spiritual power for a selfish purpose.
I would respectfully change that to read for any purpose.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I would respectfully change that to read for any purpose.
I include selfish so that the meaning cannot be twisted to include such things as fasting. The occult is ultimately selfish. If you have a better way to word it so that it wouldn't be twisted so, I am open to editing.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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Heres some examples of the 6 pointed star of Repham or the Jewish Babylonian hex;

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miktre

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Heres some examples of the 6 pointed star of Repham or the Jewish Babylonian hex;

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The actual symbol is that of a sexual nature. It's the sexual union between the upper and the lower. One triangle points up and the triangle that points down mounts it. Seems Cain knows his own history to this day. They seem to have had a significant role when the fallen angels were here and they will when the days of Noah return. They buildeth their temple in preparation this very day.
 
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sword

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There is a Christian numerology--the importance of certain numbers such as seven, three, forty, twelve....I believe that excesses in it are dangerous. This is the definition of sorcery that I use: A physical act intended to manipulate a spiritual power for a selfish purpose.

Maybe that`s one of the reasons why Martin Luther didn´t believe in the revelation book.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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Maybe that`s one of the reasons why Martin Luther didn´t believe in the revelation book.
Perhaps it is why he had second thoughts about it but he certainly used it as a cornerstone of his escatology. Of more significance, my view of sorcery affects my view concerning the misuse of the giftings of the Holy Spirit. I believe that those who do so engage in sorcery. An attempt to manipulate God through a fleshly mimicry of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is, in my eyes, blasphemous. I believe in the giftings and I believe in treating them with the respect due the Giver of the gifts--the Holy Spirit.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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The actual symbol is that of a sexual nature. It's the sexual union between the upper and the lower. One triangle points up and the triangle that points down mounts it. Seems Cain knows his own history to this day. They seem to have had a significant role when the fallen angels were here and they will when the days of Noah return. They buildeth their temple in preparation this very day.
Yes, the union of opposites.

666 is the total calculation that is reckoned from the Hexagram.

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miktre

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They also put one over the eagle to let us know who really controls our military.

 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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They also put one over the eagle to let us know who really controls our military.

Yes, the Great Seal is Manasseh's heraldry emblem, the olive branch and the bundle of arrows is the tribe of Manessah born by the wings of God here in the symbol of the eagle, however the tribe was captured again by Babylon represented by the hexagram in 1913 thus it appears on the Federal Reserve Note which is a debt voucher, its not money, money is silver and gold, the FRN is as it says 'payable for all debts', your debts that is to them.

So the money lenders are in control once again, nothing new under the sun.
 
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greatkraw

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is there something in the eagle's mouth?
the symbol of the tribe of Dan is an eagle holding a serpent in its mouth
 
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charisenexcelcis

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is there something in the eagle's mouth?
the symbol of the tribe of Dan is an eagle holding a serpent in its mouth
That is a serpent. The examples that Cup is giving are medeival or post medeival.
 
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Graybeard

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Greybeard, no offense intended, since you didn't know. but just wondering why you chose the occult hexagram for your avatar? it's the star of the idolators' god remphan. it has it's origin in Mystery Babylon the Great. surely no Christian believes that symbol is the so-called "star of david?" the synagogue of satan is identified by that symbol.

Acts 7:43
Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Thank you for your concern...it has been pointed out to me numerous times.....if it an occult sign, then why does the nation of Israel use it?...some say that the nation of Israel are not the Jews of old that the Bible speaks about, I disagree, as there are too many prophesies that concern Israel that have been fulfilled and some are in the process of being fulfilled right now in this generation. I wholeheartedly believe that the Bible and end times prophesies revolve around Israel..Israel is like a reference point for future events. Israel IS the Holy Land, right back to the Garden of Eden!
I will never badmouth Israel or denounce it's existence because the Word warns about this. What I'm saying is I believe who Israel is and because my belief of them is secure..why would they have an occultic/satanic symbol on their national flag?...so it cannot be proved that The Star of David actually was the six sided symbol, so what!.....the Jews where forced to wear this symbol (as far as I know) in the past when they where persecuted to humiliate them but they have turned that into a victory praise God!
I love this symbol because it represents the Nation of Israel whom God has chosen from the beginning and will see to it that the Promises He has made will come to pass.

If it turns out that I am wrong to use this symbol I do not believe it will affect my salvation or my belief in our Lord Jesus Christ in any case because I do not doubt what I believe!
 

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Exodus 3:13-15 God gives his name I AM

John 8:58 Jesus claims the name of I AM

I don't know this, but I was told the JWs have their own version of the Bible and some of the more problematic verses were reworded so associating Jesus with the Father is more difficult. But, they will usually let you refer to the KJ version in discussions with them.
JWs believe that Jesus is the Archangel Michael. They don't believe in the Trinity
 

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Thank you for your concern...it has been pointed out to me numerous times.....if it an occult sign, then why does the nation of Israel use it?...some say that the nation of Israel are not the Jews of old that the Bible speaks about, I disagree, as there are too many prophesies that concern Israel that have been fulfilled and some are in the process of being fulfilled right now in this generation. I wholeheartedly believe that the Bible and end times prophesies revolve around Israel..Israel is like a reference point for future events. Israel IS the Holy Land, right back to the Garden of Eden!
I will never badmouth Israel or denounce it's existence because the Word warns about this. What I'm saying is I believe who Israel is and because my belief of them is secure..why would they have an occultic/satanic symbol on their national flag?...so it cannot be proved that The Star of David actually was the six sided symbol, so what!.....the Jews where forced to wear this symbol (as far as I know) in the past when they where persecuted to humiliate them but they have turned that into a victory praise God!
I love this symbol because it represents the Nation of Israel whom God has chosen from the beginning and will see to it that the Promises He has made will come to pass.

If it turns out that I am wrong to use this symbol I do not believe it will affect my salvation or my belief in our Lord Jesus Christ in any case because I do not doubt what I believe!
Judaism is not the true religion of the old Covenant. It was partly invented as an alternative to Temple worship when the Temple was destroyed and is largely based on the Talmud which consists of Rabbinic interpretations of the books of Moses {Torah). It is also anti Christian. I dont know the origin of the star of David or when it came to be used but I do know that a lot of misinformation regarding
modern Israel is being swallowed due to lack of Bible knowledge.

Modern Israel is not the the country that existed in Old Testament times. It largely covers the area of Judah. The original Israel was
destroyed by the Assyrians centuries ago. The return of Jews is for judgement. The Bible makes this clear. only a remnant will
repent and accept Christ as their Messiah and will reign with him during the millennium. The true Israel consists of all that accept Christ as Lord and Messiah
 

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Read Isaiah carefully and you will find the the response to your title question is DEFINITELY. If Isaiah does not satisfy you quest, nothing has or will.
 
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Jesus Christ is Jehovah, the God of Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob.

God in the Old Testament said He will be the one to save Israel from their sins to have a spiritual relationship with Him, and said there is no other Savior beside Him.

In the Old Testament God said He will speak to the Jews, and reveal a new name to them.

Jesus said to Philip that if he has seen Him he has seen the Father, for the words He speaks are not His own, but the Father that dwells in Him, He does the works.

Jesus is the name that is above all names, not only in this world, but in the world to come, which Jesus is above the name of Jehovah.

God's name represents His character in dealing with people, so the names known to us that God has is only a revelation of what God wants us to know of Him for what he wants for us in blessing towards us.

So the name of Jehovah, and Jesus, only represent God's character in relation to humans, and would not represent God in all His attributes as God for He can only know that.

For to actually know the name of God to represent God in His fulness of wisdom, and power, and all His attributes, could never be known to us, and would not be revealed to us, for we could never know all that is God in all His fulness as God.

So Jesus can be above the name Jehovah, for Jehovah is not the name of God to represent Him in His fulness, but only a name to reveal what He has given us in blessings from Him.

We could never know all what God knows, and never have all His power, and could not be omnipresent, so we could know God's name in the fulness of Him.

Which the Bible says that Jesus has a name that no man knows, and we could never know that name.

The name of Jehovah was not revealed to the Jews until God was ready to take the Jews out of Egypt, which the name represents physical deliverance, and physical blessings.

The name Jesus was not revealed to the Jews until God was ready to give salvation, which the name represents spiritual deliverance, and spiritual blessings.

So the name Jesus is above the name Jehovah for the blessings and gifts from God are far greater than what the name Jehovah offered.

Jesus would have to be the God of Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, if it is above the name Jehovah.

Solomon said how can God dwell in a temple made with hands when the heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain God, and He said My name will be there.