Why original sin is UNSCRIPTURAL
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That is because we are not born as sinners like some people say.
The sin of Adam and Eve does not come upon people born in this world, for everybody will bear their own sin, and that is their sin, not our sin.
Adam and Eve were created knowing God, and it would of never entered their mind to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil unless an outside source tempted them.
So God allowed Satan to tempt Eve and she sinned, and then Eve was the outside source that tempted Adam by showing him it was alright to eat of the fruit for she did not die physically.
When they ate of the tree they then had a choice between good and evil, and would have to make the choice to do what is right concerning the truth of God.
Since Adam and Eve's sin does not come upon people, babies are born innocent with no sin on their record.
And that is why the Bible says the angels always behold the face of the Father for the little ones, for they are protected spiritually while in the state of not being accountable for their actions when they are young, not having an understanding yet.
We are born innocent, but we are born not knowing God, so we will do wrong before we do right and come to God and repent of our sins.
Adam and Eve were created knowing God, and the sin of Adam and Eve does not come upon people so babies are born innocent with no sin on their record, but when Adam and Eve ate of the tree then they had a choice between good and evil, so all their offspring are born with a choice, so they are born not knowing God, so they will do wrong before they do right and make the choice to follow God and repent of their sins.
Being born in to this world without the knowledge of God, and having to make that choice later in life is what makes us sinners for we will do wrong before we do right coming to God.
So all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, but we are born innocent.
Which it is not our fault for being born with a choice, and without the knowledge of God, but there is no excuse for when we are older then we know to do right.
The sin of Adam and Eve does not come upon people born in this world, for everybody will bear their own sin, and that is their sin, not our sin.
Adam and Eve were created knowing God, and it would of never entered their mind to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil unless an outside source tempted them.
So God allowed Satan to tempt Eve and she sinned, and then Eve was the outside source that tempted Adam by showing him it was alright to eat of the fruit for she did not die physically.
When they ate of the tree they then had a choice between good and evil, and would have to make the choice to do what is right concerning the truth of God.
Since Adam and Eve's sin does not come upon people, babies are born innocent with no sin on their record.
And that is why the Bible says the angels always behold the face of the Father for the little ones, for they are protected spiritually while in the state of not being accountable for their actions when they are young, not having an understanding yet.
We are born innocent, but we are born not knowing God, so we will do wrong before we do right and come to God and repent of our sins.
Adam and Eve were created knowing God, and the sin of Adam and Eve does not come upon people so babies are born innocent with no sin on their record, but when Adam and Eve ate of the tree then they had a choice between good and evil, so all their offspring are born with a choice, so they are born not knowing God, so they will do wrong before they do right and make the choice to follow God and repent of their sins.
Being born in to this world without the knowledge of God, and having to make that choice later in life is what makes us sinners for we will do wrong before we do right coming to God.
So all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, but we are born innocent.
Which it is not our fault for being born with a choice, and without the knowledge of God, but there is no excuse for when we are older then we know to do right.
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No two people understand the same. This is the personal relationship we have with Jesus, Yeshua, and this demonstrates justhow He knows what each person needs to fuel his faith.
To expect everyone to derive exactly the same from studies is unrealistic, though the important issues we all agree on, Jesus Christ crucified for our sin.
To expect everyone to derive exactly the same from studies is unrealistic, though the important issues we all agree on, Jesus Christ crucified for our sin.
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The term "original sin" is not in Scripture. But that does not mean that Adam's disobedience did not bring sin and death upon the human race. Which means that all human beings are born with a sin nature, since all die. So while a baby is technically not a "sinner", a baby is tainted with the sin nature, which will sooner or later express itself.
So the question you have is how do babies go to Heaven? They go the same way as all sinners go to Heaven. By God's grace and based upon the shed blood of Christ, who died for the sins of the whole world. Since babies and young children cannot possibly respond to the Gospel, God has already made allowance for that. Therefore David's child went to Heaven.
So the question you have is how do babies go to Heaven? They go the same way as all sinners go to Heaven. By God's grace and based upon the shed blood of Christ, who died for the sins of the whole world. Since babies and young children cannot possibly respond to the Gospel, God has already made allowance for that. Therefore David's child went to Heaven.
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It is God Who breathes life into each of us. Do you suppose those "babies" may simply have their lives breathed back into the Father? Anyone can devise a symbol for eternity, a figure eight on its side or simply a circle, but neither is eternity…….so it is in explaining the mysteries of what God creates…...
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1. How do you know that the child of David got to heaven?
2. You should define the original sin, because:
"This condition has been characterized in many ways, ranging from something as insignificant as:
- a slight deficiency,
- a tendency toward sin yet without collective guilt, referred to as a "sin nature",
- total depravity,
- automatic guilt of all humans through collective guilt"
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Verses supporting the original sin in some form:
"all die in Adam" 1 Cor 5:22
"because of the one man’s trespass, death exercised dominion through that one" R 5:17
"one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all" R 5:18
"by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners" R 5:19
2. You should define the original sin, because:
"This condition has been characterized in many ways, ranging from something as insignificant as:
- a slight deficiency,
- a tendency toward sin yet without collective guilt, referred to as a "sin nature",
- total depravity,
- automatic guilt of all humans through collective guilt"
wiki
Verses supporting the original sin in some form:
"all die in Adam" 1 Cor 5:22
"because of the one man’s trespass, death exercised dominion through that one" R 5:17
"one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all" R 5:18
"by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners" R 5:19
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Indeed so!
Isaiah 57v16 states: "For I will not contend forever, Nor will I always be angry; For the spirit would fail before Me, And the souls which I have made."
To say that God creates an evil sin tainted soul and spirit for a baby completely contradicts Scripture and attacks the character of God Who is Love, for Matt 19v14 says:
"Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven."
Also see Ezek chapter 18 (all), Isaiah 53v6 (we "go astray" and NOT "born astray"), Deut 24v16 and so forth.
You can find a bit of a study Here on "original sin."
Isaiah 57v16 states: "For I will not contend forever, Nor will I always be angry; For the spirit would fail before Me, And the souls which I have made."
To say that God creates an evil sin tainted soul and spirit for a baby completely contradicts Scripture and attacks the character of God Who is Love, for Matt 19v14 says:
"Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven."
Also see Ezek chapter 18 (all), Isaiah 53v6 (we "go astray" and NOT "born astray"), Deut 24v16 and so forth.
You can find a bit of a study Here on "original sin."
Sin Is not accounted where there Is no law.
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Romans 7:7-10
King James Version(KJV)
7.)What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8.)But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin [was] dead.
9.)For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10.)And the commandment, which [was ordained] to life, I found [to be] unto death.
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He was alive once without the law once?How could that be If he was always under the law.
The age of accountability
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Romans 7:7-10
King James Version(KJV)
7.)What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8.)But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin [was] dead.
9.)For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10.)And the commandment, which [was ordained] to life, I found [to be] unto death.
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He was alive once without the law once?How could that be If he was always under the law.
The age of accountability
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Some whose names are written in the lambs book of life as slain from the foundation of the world are saved in the womb.Before good or bad can occur.
The Holy Spirit revealed to David he could go to his child but the child could not come here . God is no longer bringing any new revelations. We can pray and hope
The Holy Spirit revealed to David he could go to his child but the child could not come here . God is no longer bringing any new revelations. We can pray and hope