Does saved by grace, not under law cancel the 119th Psalm?

Absolutely. When this Psalm refers to "the Law of the LORD" it is a reference to Scripture, NOT the Old Covenant. "The law of the LORD is perfect" but the Old Covenant was imperfect.

Can we be "not under law" and believe the 119th Psalm?

Yes we can.

The 2 greatest laws are love God, and love people, which the ten commandments are such laws, so they never pass away for love of people is the fulfilling of the law, and Jesus told the rich man to keep the 6 commandments that have to do with loving people, which the rich man said he did that from youth, but Jesus said he lacked one thing and that is to sell all he had, and give to the poor, for that is part of loving people.

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

We do not void out the law, but we establish the law, live up to the law, and the law is spiritual, and holy, and the commandment holy, just, and good, which is the laws of love, moral laws.

So since they are spiritual they can never pass away for the New Testament is spiritual, and we have to obey those laws to be right with God.

Jesus took away the physical ordinances, but the spiritual laws can never pass away.

The spiritual laws were in the Old Testament along with the physical laws, but they could not have the Spirit, but some were considered righteous in the Old Testament, and how much more can we be righteous when we can have the Spirit in the New Testament.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

If a person hates sin, and does not want sin, by the Spirit they can abstain from sins, and God will not allow them to be tempted above what they can handle, and will give them an escape from the temptation, so the people led of the Spirit do not get tempted as hard as the world, and are delivered from that temptation.

So there is no excuse for not abstaining from sins other than a person does not hate sin, and wants to do it, and some will make an excuse for not being able to abstain from sins, but they do not tell the truth but want to enjoy sins and then believe they are right with God.

The Bible says if you are led of the Spirit you are not under the law, and a Spirit led life will not sin, so if they are engaging in sin, or holding unto sin, they are not led of the Spirit, so they are under the law, which many who claim Christ are in the position of being under the law because of their hypocrisy, and then many want to believe they are alright with God, all the whole their hypocrisy gives offense to the ministry as people call them hypocrites, and many not wanting to embrace Christianity.

A Spirit led life is not under the law, because all their sins are forgiven, and they are abstaining from sins, therefore the law cannot touch them for prosecution.

But we always have to obey the law like Paul said we have to live up to the law, and the law is spiritual, and holy.

There are some people that think that they are led of the Spirit, and clean inside, despite their wrongful actions, for they do not believe it affects their being right with God, and they cannot be wrong in the eyes of God even for a microsecond, because they can never fall.

And then say they cannot abstain from sin, and sin daily, and sin does not affect their relationship with God, for they know they sin, and with that attitude they will hold unto sin for they do not think they can cease from sins, all the while ignoring that by the Spirit they can abstain from sins, and the Lord knows them that are His having this seal, for this is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that let everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Jesus said that whatever is in a person's heart is what will proceed forth from them, so if they engage in sins and think they are right with God, then how are they clean inside for if they sin then that is what is in their heart.

Charity, love in action, is greater than faith, for no love, then no faith.

Charity is kind, is not selfish, is not arrogant, does not behave wrongly, does not think an evil thought, does not rejoice in iniquity, which if a person sins then they enjoyed that sin, for if they did not enjoy that sin they would not do it, but rejoices in the truth to hate sin, and do not want sin, led by the Spirit, and only goes by their needs, and not their wants, and helps the poor and needy if they can.

But there are many people that claim Christ that engage in sins, and hold unto sin, and think they are still right in the eyes of God, but then they do not measure up to love, and then faith does not apply in their lives.

Many people claiming Christ thinking they are led of the Spirit, but they are not, and they are under the law, which the law can touch them for prosecution.

You are not under the law if you are led by the Spirit, but the Bible says a Spirit led life will not sin, but there are many people who say they cannot abstain from sins, and sin daily, and sin does not affect their relationship with God, then how are they led of the Spirit with that attitude.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Jesus took away the physical sabbath days, and it is now a spiritual sabbath, spiritual rest by the Spirit.

Where do these people come up with this stuff---->Jesus didn't come to fulfill the law (through obedience to it)

WOW!

The same kind of people that think they are going to drink a six-pack of beer with Him while smoking some joints. There is no fear of God before their eyes.

My bible is clear...

a. He is the only one to keep the LAW
b. HE fulfilled the requirements of the law
c. He was without sin
d. BECAUSE of the above HIS righteousness without the deeds/works of the law can be applied by faith = our justification before God.....

I provided the scripture. Are you unable to read?

You did not provide anything to me.....and did you not just yesterday have a cow and go on a 3 hour tirade about people treating you like crap when I said the exact same thing to you in the bolded....??

AND my bible is clear...

a. He is the only one to keep the LAW
b. HE fulfilled the requirements of the law
c. He was without sin
d. BECAUSE of the above HIS righteousness without the deeds/works of the law can be applied by faith = our justification before God.....

Would you think not perfect in the sense of the law and the prophets. The two witnesses of God. The prophets in respect to the new testament prophets while the old testament prophets are in respect to the word law? One imperfect without the other ?

Dunno bro! Sad, isn't it? Maybe he's also Catholic.

His posted response seems to say that he believes that JESUS broke the law and was a sinner........

Here's the post, scripture and all. Are you unable to read?

@preacher4truth is a coward hiding behind his constant Thumbs Down votes.
Why don't you come on to the playing field and face me like the man you think you are?

You do understand that BOTH thoughts are correct...

a. HE fulfilled the requirements of the law by KEEPING the law
b. He fulfilled all things written in OT concerning him found in the -->(law, prophets and Psalms)

Two kinds of laws .Two different purposes; The law of faith not seen heals . The letter of law that we read kills. The latter can take a believer home earlier .

I make this of it: You know what the passage says, not what it means.

So you think Jesus broke the Law? LOL!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you need to stop, you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you would have been there too to tell Christ he broke his own law. Yes? So this is where you come up with your false teaching, misunderstanding Scripture? Goodness sake, man.

Yep, that's where you get it. Even Catholics worries about people getting a Bible in their hands and you prove its fear valid!

Anyhow:

Because he not only had broken the Sabbath. When the Evangelist says that the Jews were hostile to Christ, because he had broken the Sabbath, he speaks according to the opinion which they had formed; for I have already showed that the state of the case was quite the contrary. - Jean Calvin

"...through the one mans obedience many were made righteous..." Romans 5:19

There it is, proof. Assuredly though you will not learn, admit error, but will argue against Scripture and evidence.


And this:

so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous; not by their own obedience; nor by their own obedience and Christ's together; but by his sole and single obedience to the law of God: and the persons made righteous by it are not all the posterity of Adam, and yet not a few of them; but "many", even all the elect of God, and seed of Christ; these are all made righteous in the sight of God, are justified from all their sins, and entitled to eternal life and happiness. - John Gill

That's exactly what he is saying...

Love the name calling, bro, real callow of you.

Anyhow, I'm right here, showing you your error. The more you type, the more the error, and the more the thumbs down you'll get.

So, you are claiming the Bible doesn't mean what it says?
That's a slippery slope. But a good explanation of where you are coming from.

That sounds like a threat.
At least I got you to stop hiding behind your Thumbs Down votes.

For some reason when I read his post I started thinking abut Kenny Rodgers and the Coward of the County.....HAHAHHAHAHHA