Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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preacher4truth

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ForestGreenCook said:
I was raised in the Primitive Baptist church as a youth until I was 18 but never understood the doctrine. I had not been back to them until after I had been revealed the mystery of the different deliverance in the salvation scriptures., at the age of 62. I struggled with seemingly contradicting scriptures all those years until I denied myself and the revelation came.
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Yes, you've shared this in the past. You didn't come up with this on your own, it comes from Primitive Baptist teaching.
 
BaptistBibleBeliever

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ForestGreenCook said:
I was raised in the Primitive Baptist church as a youth until I was 18 but never understood the doctrine. I had not been back to them until after I had been revealed the mystery of the different deliverance in the salvation scriptures., at the age of 62. I struggled with seemingly contradicting scriptures all those years until I denied myself and the revelation came.
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Then there is Timothy . . .

"But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus" (II Timothy 3:14-15).
 
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How many children do we know that can explain the doctrine of Calvinism and has read the Councils of Dork? But they can know they are saved, bless God!
 
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BaptistBibleBeliever said:
They can clearly tell us where they are wrong, but when you ask them a question about how they derive their views, 'oh, bless the Laawwd, oh Gawwwd, your questions are too convoluted and hard to decipher.'

I wonder if they'll have a hard time explaining it at the Great White Throne?
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I think it will be written all over their face, if God even allow them to see their own facial expression on a mirror, on that great white throne
 
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ForestGreenCook said:
Justification does precede regeneration by a long shot because the elect were justified by Christ on the cross. and some of them probably have not been regenerated yet.
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Thats impossible. Because the elect are justified by faith..
 
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theanointedwinner said:
I know nothing about calvinism, but I think tulip is a flower that can be pleasing to the eyes
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My late wife couldn't stand tulips. She could never have been a Calvinist. But I can assure you, she knew what they were and wanted nothing to do with them. She's up in heaven. I wonder if she has even run into one Calvinist up there.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Thats impossible. Because the elect are justified by faith..
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Jesus's faith, not our faith (Gal 2:16) you must be studying from a different version of the bible than the KJV. Our faith in Jesus, the fact that Jesus justified us on the cross, can give us a deliverance (salvation) here in this world, but not eternally.
 
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ForestGreenCook said:
Our faith in Jesus
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If it is Jesus' faith, not our faith . . . what are you talking about . . . 'our faith in Jesus.'

It's pretty bad when a Calvinist can't even write one sentence without contradicting Jean.

Well, that is the problem with a lie, you keep having to come up with new lies to cover up the old lies.
 
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ForestGreenCook said:
Jesus's faith, not our faith (Gal 2:16) you must be studying from a different version of the bible than the KJV. Our faith in Jesus, the fact that Jesus justified us on the cross, can give us a deliverance (salvation) here in this world, but not eternally.
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Lol ok John, you keep believing that.
Jesus faith took him to the cross, it did not save individuals, they must trust themselves.

He who believes is not condemned (justified) he who does not believe is condemned already.

Your KJV is a translation. It is not infalible.

 
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ForestGreenCook said:
Jesus's faith, not our faith (Gal 2:16) you must be studying from a different version of the bible than the KJV. Our faith in Jesus, the fact that Jesus justified us on the cross, can give us a deliverance (salvation) here in this world, but not eternally.
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What kind of nonsense is this? Same as the wide-road of the elect?

WHAT KIND OF DELIVERANCE DOES BELIEVING IN JESUS BRING IN THIS LIFE? What kind of "deliverance" (salvatioN) did Paul get? His life was terrible here on earth.

No im sure it brought ETERNAL salvation

Might I ask, in your warped theology, what DOES bring eternal salvation? Winning the elect lottery or what?
 
preacher4truth

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ForestGreenCook said:
I am sorry, I don't know how to ask it any simpler. Can the natural man/woman, who has not been regenerated, repent to breaking one of God's spiritual laws?
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What do you mean by repent?

What do you mean by repent "to" breaking one of God's "spiritual laws"?

What do you mean by "spiritual laws" and what do you mean by them "breaking" them?

See, you need to define this because the question is chock full of assumptions and mystery definitions and/or assumptions that need to be out in the open because you hold in your mind what they all mean. Therefore it is not wise on my part to answer such an obscure question.
 
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ForestGreenCook said:
I am sorry, I don't know how to ask it any simpler. Can the natural man/woman, who has not been regenerated, repent to breaking one of God's spiritual laws?
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They do it all the time.. Just go to the drug rehab centers..go to the jails and see people who have repented from what they did.. Because the law was written on their hearts.

Repenting from personal sin never saved anyone anyway, Repenting of a life of sin, and the fact you think you are God. And humbly comming to the cross as God convicts you of sin righteousness and judgment, is what leads us to salvation. But you MUST chose to belief (have faith) God will not do your believibg for you
 
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