How old is the earth?

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Blik

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I don't think scripture tells us that God began creating the earth "in the beginning". It does not say when that beginning was. To understand what scripture tells us we need to trace back to the original Hebrew that the first men who heard God spoke in, and what those words meant to them.

Genesis 1: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

In the beginning our earth was described by the Hebrew word choshek. This word means lifeless, dark, chaotic. It does not tell us there was nothing there when scripture lists the days of creation, but that the earth was dark and forbidding.

When scripture describes the first day of creation, it tells us that “owr” was created. This is a Hebrew word always translated as light, it means enlightenment, joy, life, and good. Physical light was not created until the fourth day. Owr is a Godly light. On this day God created light as we as human think of it.

On the fourth day the light created was called maor, or the plural of that is maorof. This is a name for objects that illuminate. Translators used our word light for both of these very different Hebrew words.
Ancient Hebrew was first written in pictograph, then without vowels.

We know that God is in a dimension different from ours because God is eternal. Time is part of the dimension humans live in, eternity puts God in a different dimension. Scripture tries to explain that dimension to us.

Scientist do not know what God knows about us for God created what scientist try to discover. But often they discover the truth of what we have misread scripture about. That happened about "the four corners of the earth". People said the earth was square, but scientist told them what that scripture meant. I think it is the same with the age of our earth.
 

Churinga

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I don't think scripture tells us that God began creating the earth "in the beginning". It does not say when that beginning was. To understand what scripture tells us we need to trace back to the original Hebrew that the first men who heard God spoke in, and what those words meant to them.

Genesis 1: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

In the beginning our earth was described by the Hebrew word choshek. This word means lifeless, dark, chaotic. It does not tell us there was nothing there when scripture lists the days of creation, but that the earth was dark and forbidding.

When scripture describes the first day of creation, it tells us that “owr” was created. This is a Hebrew word always translated as light, it means enlightenment, joy, life, and good. Physical light was not created until the fourth day. Owr is a Godly light. On this day God created light as we as human think of it.

On the fourth day the light created was called maor, or the plural of that is maorof. This is a name for objects that illuminate. Translators used our word light for both of these very different Hebrew words.
Ancient Hebrew was first written in pictograph, then without vowels.

We know that God is in a dimension different from ours because God is eternal. Time is part of the dimension humans live in, eternity puts God in a different dimension. Scripture tries to explain that dimension to us.

Scientist do not know what God knows about us for God created what scientist try to discover. But often they discover the truth of what we have misread scripture about. That happened about "the four corners of the earth". People said the earth was square, but scientist told them what that scripture meant. I think it is the same with the age of our earth.
I am a young earth creationist. https://creation.com/geology-and-the-young-earth
 

Locutus

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Old earther here - lol.

Ken Ham should be served on toasted rye bread with lettuce and tomato and thin swipe of mayo.
 

memyselfi

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All I know is Y-shua said you believe in Moses, not discounting him, believe also in ME. If Torah/ G-d is right, who Created the Earth, Cosmos, and everything Else and Wrote the Book.... The Earth is about 6,000 ears old. If G-d is WRONG then secular science is right.... It's funny though Creationist are from the same schools as evolutionist.... they all see a "rock" have the same science, but the difference is their mind set in the starting point...

The point is I think G-d is right!!! THE EARTH IS YOUNG!!!! I BELIEVE JESUS SO I BELIEVE MOSES!!!!
 

Blik

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All I know is Y-shua said you believe in Moses, not discounting him, believe also in ME. If Torah/ G-d is right, who Created the Earth, Cosmos, and everything Else and Wrote the Book.... The Earth is about 6,000 ears old. If G-d is WRONG then secular science is right.... It's funny though Creationist are from the same schools as evolutionist.... they all see a "rock" have the same science, but the difference is their mind set in the starting point...

The point is I think G-d is right!!! THE EARTH IS YOUNG!!!! I BELIEVE JESUS SO I BELIEVE MOSES!!!!
Did you actually read or think about the post? God did not tell you that the earth is 6,000 years old at all, God told you that the earth was formed in the beginning. Does "in the beginning" actually read 6,000? I don't think so.
 

memyselfi

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Did you actually read or think about the post? God did not tell you that the earth is 6,000 years old at all, God told you that the earth was formed in the beginning. Does "in the beginning" actually read 6,000? I don't think so.

I'm so glad you asked! When did death come into the world?
 

Blik

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All I know is Y-shua said you believe in Moses, not discounting him, believe also in ME. If Torah/ G-d is right, who Created the Earth, Cosmos, and everything Else and Wrote the Book.... The Earth is about 6,000 ears old. If G-d is WRONG then secular science is right.... It's funny though Creationist are from the same schools as evolutionist.... they all see a "rock" have the same science, but the difference is their mind set in the starting point...

The point is I think G-d is right!!! THE EARTH IS YOUNG!!!! I BELIEVE JESUS SO I BELIEVE MOSES!!!!
Did Moses tell you how old the earth is? I haven't read a scripture that tells us that. It says "in the beginning".

Scripture tells you the earth is square, doesn't it? Or does it?

Isaiah 11:12 And He will lift up a standard for the nations And assemble the banished ones of Israel, And will gather the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.

Rev. 7:1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, so that no wind would blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree.


Scripture tells us the earth is square?
 

Blik

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I'm so glad you asked! When did death come into the world?
When Adam and Eve ate the apple and received the knowledge of sin.

We know scripture is truth, but we are to discern what that truth is.
 

memyselfi

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Did Moses tell you how old the earth is? I haven't read a scripture that tells us that. It says "in the beginning".

Scripture tells you the earth is square, doesn't it? Or does it?

Isaiah 11:12 And He will lift up a standard for the nations And assemble the banished ones of Israel, And will gather the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.

Rev. 7:1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, so that no wind would blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree.

Scripture tells us the earth is square?
Do you refuse to answer my question.... (Read above when I quoted you)… When did death enter the Earth?
 

memyselfi

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When Adam and Eve ate the apple and received the knowledge of sin.

We know scripture is truth, but we are to discern what that truth is.
Yes, when sin entered the Earth. So when did dinosaurs die? No, the Bible says the "circumference" of the Earth. Psalm 40:22.
 

Blik

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Spiritual of Physical?
Scripture is always reality of duality unless it is clearly stated that it is speaking in parables. It is historical, it is reality. The reality is a shadow of the spirituality the reality is speaking of.
 

Blik

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Yes, when sin entered the Earth. So when did dinosaurs die? No, the Bible says the "circumference" of the Earth. Psalm 40:22.
Scripture doesn't tell us, but I have a theory that is purely of my imagination. Before the flood we know the atmosphere was different. When sealed caves have been opened they found the oxygen level was different. That atmosphere could have supported life in a different way than the post flood world did.
 

memyselfi

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Scripture doesn't tell us, but I have a theory that is purely of my imagination. Before the flood we know the atmosphere was different. When sealed caves have been opened they found the oxygen level was different. That atmosphere could have supported life in a different way than the post flood world did.
So you are saying in a cave (s) for billions of years 6-50 billion( what ever it is all ridicules) the oxygen was different? What happened to the other element in the air? I am suppose to believe that over the word Yam... The Word of G-d!?!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The bible says God took 6 24 hour days to create the heaven and the earth. The earth ad heavens were created for man. Meaning the earth was created aged, We do not know how long adam and ev walked before they sinned. So we can honestly say the earth is at least 6 no more than 10000 years old.
 

memyselfi

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The bible says God took 6 24 hour days to create the heaven and the earth. The earth ad heavens were created for man. Meaning the earth was created aged, We do not know how long adam and ev walked before they sinned. So we can honestly say the earth is at least 6 no more than 10000 years old.
I think that is fair...
 
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jaybird88

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Did Moses tell you how old the earth is? I haven't read a scripture that tells us that. It says "in the beginning".

Scripture tells you the earth is square, doesn't it? Or does it?

Isaiah 11:12 And He will lift up a standard for the nations And assemble the banished ones of Israel, And will gather the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.

Rev. 7:1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, so that no wind would blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree.

Scripture tells us the earth is square?
i dont think they are four corners i thnk they are four wings/extremities. not sure why they use the number four, but IMO its more likely they represent the four four cardinal directions, that makes more sense than four corners of a square. it would also have to be a flat square to get four corners rather than eight.
 

Laish

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The earth is pretty old . I would say that it is as old as dirt.
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