Question(s) to those who believe salvation can be lost

A non believer is not going to be considered by God as a man after his own heart. In fact, Many believers will not get this honor.. Very few people will get this, I am not even sure I have this honor. In fact I would say I do not..

A non believer is not going to be considered by God as a man after his own heart. In fact, Many believers will not get this honor.. Very few people will get this, I am not even sure I have this honor. In fact I would say I do not..

Before sin, was Adam and eve child of God?

I know we save by faith not by work, but real faith is like a branch that abide to the tree, It Will produce a good fruit or good work

Work not produce salvation but

Salvation produce work.

The bible doesn't say they were saved but by them paying consequences for their sin, it would appear, but that would be assuming, I have to go by his word, it did not say they were saved, or lost....so you need to pray and ask God that question. it appears you think people will not sin after they are saved..... people SHOULDNT but remember we were born into sinful nature. we battle it daily. I think your focus needs to be on God not sinning. Focus on him, seek him, read his word, its fascinating, every time I read a passage again, I find something I did not see before. dissecting his word or his children will get you no where.... satan is constantly keeping your mind on murder or sin.

Exactly. So if the work of the person is bad, then the salvation behind it is false or questionable.

Adam and Eve were created, not born. So no they were not children of God

what verse says he was saved?

I have seen men go to the altar and say they got saved every single service..... they were seeking, like David, David desired to please God's heart persay. that's not salvation...thats a strong desire.....don't we all long to find favor with God.... we Christians desire to live the way his commandments instruct us to. being a man after God's heart is pleasing to God, he sees a person that wants to please him.... its still not salvation

Spiritually is he not child of God? I am born of my mom but after I accept Jesus I am born of God.

Adam and Eve did not have Jesus to accept. But yes they were created of God's spirit.

there are church members that has joined the church but it doesn't mean they are saved.

I do not know, but God chose David because because God see his heart is right

1 Samuel 16:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.

Hey sis, David was not seeking in that account, God was. He was seeking who would be the heir to the throne. Everyone thought it would be someone else. God said no. I chose the young one, who is out taking care of his sheep. Who is proving to be trutworthy. He proved his true faith in God by doing all the things he did, Including fighting off Lions, Killing Goliath.

I have seen people walk up to alters to. I have even seen and heard them say sinners prayers. But never saw any fruit. I doubt they were saved either. But we can know that God considered david a man after his own heart because he KNEW the great things he would do (he even knew the great sins he would commit, which is why GRACE prevails.. God loves his children.

I never mentioned “church members”.

The Bible doesn’t mention “church members”


People who are in Christ.




JLB

that's not saying he was saved in that verse....
.....God does look on inward man, cause he knows even their thoughts, so when they REALLY repent, he knows....when they just SAY they did and the fruits later show they didn't, we mankind, only see the outward person...God knows if someone really repents. if they go and 'murder daily' as you say...they didn't repent …meaningless words

How about Adam, before sin he is save isn't he?

Where do you get this? Sorry, this is not in the word..again, it would be excusing david for sin. Sin is sin is sin, lets keep sin where it belongs and not excuse it. Ok?

Davids sin with batsheba was prety serious, Then he killed her husband.

Adultry is sin, The penalty of sin is death

David had more than one wife. That means he commited adultry many times

Again, the penalty of sin is death.