Judea tribes contained within?

In numbers Moses was told not to count Levi in the census, right? Theirs is a priestly order. Would this be why?

But there were still only 12 tribes.

Maybe Benjamin was not counted in the south with Judah.

I thought the Livites were relieved of their priesthood in favor of others, Judah I think…..

Hello Peoples

I have been thinking and a new question has come up in my mind..

We learn in the OT that the kingdom was divided into Israel 10 tribes in the north and Judea in the south..
We learn that the Israel was defeated and the 10 tribes in the north where ""lost"
So since there is only 12 tribes that leaves us with 2 tribes in Judea..
As far as i know those two tribes where Judah and Benjamin..

Now the problem.. The temple was still in existence in Jerusalem and there where members of the tribe of Levites still serving in the temple long after the loss of the 10 northern tribes..

That means there where 3 tribes still present in Judea
1) Judah
2)Benjamin
3)Levi

10 + 3 = 13 tribes when there where only 12 tribes..

Can someone explain this to me?

Hello Peoples

I have been thinking and a new question has come up in my mind..

We learn in the OT that the kingdom was divided into Israel 10 tribes in the north and Judea in the south..
We learn that the Israel was defeated and the 10 tribes in the north where ""lost"
So since there is only 12 tribes that leaves us with 2 tribes in Judea..
As far as i know those two tribes where Judah and Benjamin..

Now the problem.. The temple was still in existence in Jerusalem and there where members of the tribe of Levites still serving in the temple long after the loss of the 10 northern tribes..

That means there where 3 tribes still present in Judea
1) Judah
2)Benjamin
3)Levi

10 + 3 = 13 tribes when there where only 12 tribes..

Can someone explain this to me?

Well Adstar, history tells us the makeup of Judah during Christ's day would amount to mostly Judah. Also all the tribe of Simeon was assimilated into Judah, no doubt to the curse on him and Levi. Some of the tribe of Benjamin didn't get carried away by the Assyrians because they bordered Judah and were assimilated.

Pertaining to the Levites, all the Levites ministering in the Southern Kingdom of Judah were still there. Still many more ministering in the North were carried away. So Judah, in Christ's day was all of Judah and Simeon; plus part of Levi and Benjamin. Only a small part of Levi and Benjamin were left in the South. If you count them both as taken captive, as the larger part were, and Joseph as one tribe you get the ten.

Thank you for your reply.. I did not know about Simeons being in Judea... But since Jesus was a decendant of David and david was of the tribe of Benjamin then i knew the tribe must have survived in Judea..

David was from the tribe of Judah.

Quantrill

Benjamin was still counted.

Joseph as a tribe was removed and his two sons each made a tribe. (Num. 1:5-15) Thus maintaining the 12.

Quantrill

Wow you are correct .. I don't know how i got that wrong, but i did..

Thank you for correcting me..

Wow you are correct .. I don't know how i got that wrong, but i did..

Thank you for correcting me..

I know the tribe of Dan was removed, so the two sons of joseph replaced Joseph and Dan in the 12.. I hope i got that right?

I'm confused, again...lol. Help. Ok

Jacob (Israel) had twelve sons: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin

12 - 1(Levi) = 11 - 1(Joseph) = 10 + 2(Joseph's 2 sons) = 12

Joseph's son's Ephriam + Manasseh replace Joseph gives us twelve, right?

But if Dan is removed due to idolatry then we are back to 11...

And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel: from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, from the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand, from the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand, from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed.
Revelation 7:4‭-‬8 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/rev.7.4-8.NASB

Ok now I see Joseph is back and Levi, ?, but not Ephriam. I am clearly missing something here.

Hello Peoples

I have been thinking and a new question has come up in my mind..

We learn in the OT that the kingdom was divided into Israel 10 tribes in the north and Judea in the south..
We learn that the Israel was defeated and the 10 tribes in the north where ""lost"
So since there is only 12 tribes that leaves us with 2 tribes in Judea..
As far as i know those two tribes where Judah and Benjamin..

Now the problem.. The temple was still in existence in Jerusalem and there where members of the tribe of Levites still serving in the temple long after the loss of the 10 northern tribes..

That means there where 3 tribes still present in Judea
1) Judah
2)Benjamin
3)Levi

10 + 3 = 13 tribes when there where only 12 tribes..

Can someone explain this to me?

I can explain. I am a former judaizer

The levites lived all over the place. Because they were not given a specific portion of land unlike the other tribes. (Which is why they were also supported through tithing)
So you would have levites among both kingdoms and in the lands of each tribe.