The 144,000 named in Revelation

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HAHAHAHHAHAA hilarious.....yep...the end came and went in 70 AD.....glad you agree with that line of blather.....explains a lot
Well that shows you don't have a clue as to what the end of the world is.... I think you need to get a new hammer. Just sayin.
 
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Well that shows you don't have a clue as to what the end of the world is.... I think you need to get a new hammer. Just sayin.
First...it is not the end of the world....get your facts straight if you are going to attempt to dress me down......JUST SAYING.....
 
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First...it is not the end of the world....get your facts straight if you are going to attempt to dress me down......JUST SAYING.....
HAHAHAHHAHAA hilarious.....yep...the end came and went in 70 AD.....glad you agree with that line of blather.....explains a lot

What end were you referring to here?
 
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HAHAHAHHAHAA hilarious.....yep...the end came and went in 70 AD.....glad you agree with that line of blather.....explains a lot

What end were you referring to here?
You agreeing with your pal who believes the end of the age came and went in 70 AD.....which INFECTS most of what he believes and peddles.....
 
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You haven't posted the truth, just your opinion.
Sure I have....it just does not fit your fallacious, infected belief that the end came and went in 70 AD.....which TAINTS most of your dogma.....
 

GraceAndTruth

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sometimes "bidden" just mean bidden....(called to oneself)
 

TheDivineWatermark

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If the bible left out their geneology as you did,your view may have traction.
We know they are Born jews of the 12 tribes.
No need to ascribe gentile or grafted.
It is vividly plain.
Absolutely, to TDW:

Not following you.
Are you affirming the 144k as jews?
Yes, and Revelation 7 sets them (those of the ONE NATION [SINGULAR], Israel) in contradistinction to the "a great multitude... of ALL THE NATIONS [PLURAL]..." (both groups being "saved" persons [of that future specific time period (WITHIN the 7-yrs/70th-Wk)]... but not considered/called "the Church which is His body," who will have already been raptured out well before this point in the chronology).
 

Nehemiah6

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Are you affirming the 144k as jews?
Does anyone really need to ask such a question in good faith?

All twelve tribes of Israel are specifically named in Revelation 7, so that there will be absolutely no doubt that these are redeemed Israelites separate from the Church (Jews and Gentiles in one Body, a great multitude which no man can number). They are undoubtedly a part of the believing remnant of Israel, and a microcosm of redeemed and restored Israel AFTER the Second Coming of Christ.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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Does anyone really need to ask such a question in good faith?
Well, I think "Absolutely" was just directing his question to me because he didn't understand what I was saying about "firstfruit" (the two separate "firstfruit" of Lev23: the one in verses 10-12 [re: Jesus and "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" WITH [G4862 - syn - 'united with/identified with' Him (His "[ACTIVE] ascension" ON FF/His Resurrection Day)]; the other in verse 17 which I believe is the one associated with the Rev14:4's specific wording [re: the 144,000 (yet FUTURE)])
 
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sometimes "bidden" just mean bidden....(called to oneself)
Not when used in context describing those first BIDDEN to a marriage supper........and when they reject OTHERS are bidden, seated and fed! The implication is clear when viewed through the lens of honesty.........
 
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This idea of 144k infants is virgin on the ridiculous.
Do you know that many have you on ignore and actually talk about it.....do you know why? Because 90% of what you post equates to mouthy, flippant, blather.......you RARELY quote scripture, you rarely address the truth with honest dialogue and when you do, the word context, historicity, and genuine honesty with the words, verbs tense and common sense is no where to be found or even purchased....

Why is that?