How are we to submit to God?

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James 4:7 says, "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

How can a Christian do this?
 
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“38 Now the just shall live by Faith (Faith in Christ and the Cross [Hab. 2:4]): but if any man draw back (proclaims the fact that such can be done, and refers to Believers transferring their Faith from Christ and the Cross to other things), My soul shall have no pleasure in him. (As should be obvious, God is grieved over the conduct of any person who would do such.)

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GraceAndTruth

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We can't submit to God until we submit to His word, take our own opinions and ideas and toss them out and let God's words rule.
Repentance is not just about being sorry for sin, it actually means to turn away from it and agree with God. Submitting is the renewing of the mind, putting on the mind of Christ and trying to walk that walk as best you can.

Everyone fails from time to time, after all, Jesus said to THINK it was to do it.
The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
 
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We can't submit to God until we submit to His word, take our own opinions and ideas and toss them out and let God's words rule.
Repentance is not just about being sorry for sin, it actually means to turn away from it and agree with God. Submitting is the renewing of the mind, putting on the mind of Christ and trying to walk that walk as best you can.

Everyone fails from time to time, after all, Jesus said to THINK it was to do it.
The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
How do Believers submit to God's word? Please post scripture. How do we renew our minds? Please post scripture(s). Please post the scripture that says, "try and walk the best you can." How do Believers put on the mind of Christ? Please post scripture.
 
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To submit is to give or accept that someone has authority.

Basically submitting to God is that you are willing to do what he says, let him makes thing he wants to, even if you do not agree with his ways, you give him authority over your life instead to someone else or making decisions always for yourself.

We are basically surrendering all we have and all we are and all we do that he will guide and lead us to live how he wants us to. He won't force this on us, so it's up to us to give him that authority over our lives.

A good thing to pray for is like Psalms 37;4 "Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart."
It is a wonderful thing to see what God will do when you literally let him lead you through everything and stop trying to control your own life. He does much more amazing things then in your life, but just as well, a life submitting to God more comes with more suffering in this world. Another reason why some Christians will only go to an extent to submit their lives to God. They go "if I do this, I will have to go through that, ok. I'll let you do that in my life God. But this, oh no, I am not going through that for this, I will handle this myself."

I try to feel as strong as Paul the apostle when I seem weak and tempted not to let God have control and authority over my life. One funny thing is, it is stupid to think we can lead our lives better than he can. We're failures, he is not.
 
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Psalm 40:8

I delight to do Your will, O my God; Your Law is within my heart."

Psalm 143:10

Teach me to do Your will, For You are my God; Let Your good Spirit lead me on level ground.

Matthew 6:10

'Your kingdom come Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50

He went away again a second time and prayed, saying, "My Father, if this cannot pass away unless I drink it, Your will be done."
John 5:30

"I can do nothing on My own initiative As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
John 7:17

"If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself.
Acts 21:14

And since he would not be persuaded, we fell silent, remarking, "The will of the Lord be done!"
Romans 12:2

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.
Ephesians 6:6

not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart.
Hebrews 13:21

equip you in every good thing to do His will, working in us that which is pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.
James 4:15

Instead, you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we will live and also do this or that."
1 John 2:17

The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.
 
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To submit is to give or accept that someone has authority.

Basically submitting to God is that you are willing to do what he says, let him makes thing he wants to, even if you do not agree with his ways, you give him authority over your life instead to someone else or making decisions always for yourself.

We are basically surrendering all we have and all we are and all we do that he will guide and lead us to live how he wants us to. He won't force this on us, so it's up to us to give him that authority over our lives.

A good thing to pray for is like Psalms 37;4 "Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart."
It is a wonderful thing to see what God will do when you literally let him lead you through everything and stop trying to control your own life. He does much more amazing things then in your life, but just as well, a life submitting to God more comes with more suffering in this world. Another reason why some Christians will only go to an extent to submit their lives to God. They go "if I do this, I will have to go through that, ok. I'll let you do that in my life God. But this, oh no, I am not going through that for this, I will handle this myself."

I try to feel as strong as Paul the apostle when I seem weak and tempted not to let God have control and authority over my life. One funny thing is, it is stupid to think we can lead our lives better than he can. We're failures, he is not.
Can a Christian man or woman submit to God in our own strength, will-power, ability, self-will, and power?
 
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Can a Christian man or woman submit to God in our own strength, will-power, ability, self-will, and power?
What I said already answers that, but I will try to say it more simply.

It is by our free will that we give God authority over our lives. God doesn't want to force us to do anything. he wants us to be who we truly are, not like robots that are programmed to do everything he wants.
He wants us to obey if we want to. He wants control over us if we want him to have control over us. He wants us doing his will if we want to do his will. Understand?

So yes. But simply that is us going "Here, God, take me as I am and do what you want with me and my life!" Then God does all the rest of the work, and because he does that, he gets the glory, not us,.
 

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How do Believers submit to God's word? Please post scripture. How do we renew our minds? Please post scripture(s). Please post the scripture that says, "try and walk the best you can." How do Believers put on the mind of Christ? Please post scripture.
I see Apostle Paul's "wretched man" as a standard for the lives of Christians. Paul was at the end of his ministry when he wrote those words to the Romans, so I think it is fair to say that Paul, from his own expereince, exemplifies the Christian struggle.

refer to Romans 7: 15-25
 
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God has chosen to operate His work from the basis of faith. "The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:2) is God's prescribed order of victory for the Believer over sin, the world, the flesh, and the Devil. This means that the Believer must place and maintain proper Faith the size of a mustard seed exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary, i.e., The Finished Work, i.e., The Blood of Jesus, where the victory was won so that His life would be lived through you. This gives the Holy Spirit the legal means to help and do what is needed to be done in the Believers life because the Believer is glorifying Christ, God's beloved Son in whom He is pleased. You are now operating in the Spirit. No Believer can fix the flesh with the flesh. All fruits that are added to the leaves of the Believer most be done by the Holy Spirit or you enter the works of the flesh (Gal. 5:19-21).

The Holy Spirit doesn't require much of us, but He does require one thing, and without reservation.
Our Faith must be exclusively be in Christ and the Cross; understanding that this is God's Prescribed Order of Victory (Rom. 8:2).


The Holy Spirit works strictly within the parameters of the "Finished Work" i.e., "The Cross of Christ" i.e., "The Blood of Jesus;" which demands that our Faith be placed and maintained exclusively in the Cross of Christ. The reason is simple, that's were the price was paid, and the victory was forever won (Romans 6:1-14; 1 Cor. 2:2; Gal. 5; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 2:13-18; Col. 2:14-15).

Victory over sin: Romans 8:2
Victory over the world: Galatians 6:14; 1 John 5:4
Victory over the flesh: Galatians 5:24
Victory over the Devil: Hebrews 2:14; Colossians 2:15


The Apostle Paul makes it very clear in Romans 8:10 that the physical body, mind / intellect, and the heart (which is evil - Jeremiah 17:9) has been rendered helpless because of the original sin; consequently, the Believer trying to overcome by willpower presents a fruitless task. Only the Holy Spirit can mortify the deeds of the flesh and make us what we ought to be (Romans 8:13). This means we cannot do it ourselves. Once again, He performs all that He does within the confines of the Finished Work of Christ (Romans 8:2).

If a Christian will and their efforts to live for God is in anything except Christ and the Cross, i.e., Finished Work, The Blood of Jesus (Romans 8:2), Satan can override your will and force you to do things you don't want to do and trying not to do (Ephesians 6:12). Jesus said deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow me (Luke 9:23).

Remember our bodies are dead and useless to God. The heart is prone to wander away from God's love and eat from "The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." The reason why the body is dead is because of the effects of the fall has made us totally incapable of yielding spiritual obedience on a regular basis (Jeremiah 13:23). So there must be a source outside of myself that helps me to enter into sanctification which is the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:13).

Note: The Believer must repent not just for the bad they are doing, but also for the good they are doing. Why? Because the Believer can depend on the good to get them through (Jer. 6:13-15). Good things will always follow right living. However, that is not God's way. His way is Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work (Rev. 3:17-22).

How does a Believer maintain Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross? By just believing in Jesus (who He is - John 1:1-14) and what He accomplished at Calvary Cross where the victory was one. Romans 4:5 - Galatians 2:19-21 NKJV - 1 Corinthians 1:18-25 NKJV - Colossians 2:11-15 NKJV

JSM



For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2
 

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It looks to me that you are only asking the question as a pretext to post JSM commentary on the subject. How about sharing your own insights instead of something predigested?
 
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Every Christian trusts the Lord and believes Him in some capacity. The trouble is, most do not trust Him or believe Him correctly.

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8:82

WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

The Truth that the Believer must have, is that the Cross and the Resurrection, which speak of the Finished Work of Christ, pertains not only to our initial Salvation experience, but as well to our everyday Victory over the world, the flesh, and the Devil. The Believer must understand the Truth that he was in Christ when Christ died on the Cross, was in Christ when He was buried, was in Christ when he was raised from the dead, and continues to be in Christ as He is now exalted at the Right Hand of the Father (Roman 6:3-5; Ephesians 2:6). Consequently, if Christ defeated Satan, that means the Christian has defeated Satan. If Christ atoned for all sin, then no sin can attach itself to the Believer, that is, if the Believer keeps trusting Christ. If Christ is a Law-keeper, than the Believer is a Law-keeper. If Christ is victorious, then the Believer is victorious.

The Believer must understand this, trust in this, believe this, and act upon it, even on a daily basis. This is what Jesus meant by us taking up the Cross daily and following Him (Luke 9:23).


As far as trying to do something as it concerns taking up the Cross daily, we are to do nothing. In fact, it was already done at Calvary some two thousand years ago. On a daily basis, we should reinforce our Faith in Christ and what He has done for us at the Cross (Rom. 6:3-5; 8:2, Gal. 2:20-21, Col. 2:10-15). This is the "Truth" which we must learn, act upon, and continue to act upon, which guarantees the help of the Holy Spirit.

This is the "Truth" which we must learn, act upon, and continue to act upon, which guarantees the help of the Holy Spirit.
 
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I see Apostle Paul's "wretched man" as a standard for the lives of Christians. Paul was at the end of his ministry when he wrote those words to the Romans, so I think it is fair to say that Paul, from his own expereince, exemplifies the Christian struggle.

refer to Romans 7: 15-25
Submitting is a choice. You don't have to submit. If we don't submit ourselves and God makes us submit, then he is receiving submission from someone who hates to submit to him, therefore he isn't receiving true, loving submission from the person that is submitting their life to him. When does God ever work like that? Have you missed the whole point of why Adam and Eve had sinned and why we need Christ? They had free will to submit to God and obey what he had for them to do, and they sinned by not doing so by doing the opposite of submitting to him.
Why would God blame them for their sin then if they were not submitting if we are to depend on God for that strength? God didn't give the strength to submit, he gave Adam the free will to submit or to disobey.
 

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Submitting is a choice. You don't have to submit. If we don't submit ourselves and God makes us submit, then he is receiving submission from someone who hates to submit to him, therefore he isn't receiving true, loving submission from the person that is submitting their life to him. When does God ever work like that? Have you missed the whole point of why Adam and Eve had sinned and why we need Christ? They had free will to submit to God and obey what he had for them to do, and they sinned by not doing so by doing the opposite of submitting to him.
Why would God blame them for their sin then if they were not submitting if we are to depend on God for that strength? God didn't give the strength to submit, he gave Adam the free will to submit or to disobey.
Soooo nice for you that you are a better man than the apostle Paul.
 
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Soooo nice for you that you are a better man than the apostle Paul.
That was quite an insulting, ungodly, unloving response to expect from a Christian. You didn't even come back with anything to disagree on anymore and explain why you think my words would be untrue. You simply just insulted me with sarcasm.
 
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James 4:7 says, "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

How can a Christian do this?

A prophetic word... IF YOU RECEIVED ME.. KNOW THIS... I YAHOSHUA have NEVER TAUGHT YOU TO CALL YOURSELVES BY THE TITLE OF "CHRISTIAN"... FOR I have never called you this, so why are you? The word Christian, which simply means Christ followers, which is a title that I YAHOSHUA has never given to you, to label yourselves by, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE “TWO" CHRIST, DO YOU? For I knew that you would not know which Christ you would be following, for again there are two, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Matthew 24:4-5 And Yahoshua answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in MY NAME, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.. This is why I NEVER TAUGHT YOU TO LABEL yourselves by the Title of “CHRISTIANS".

I called you My “DISCIPLES”, and never CHRISTIANS. saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Acts 11:26 And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. “AND THE DISCIPLES WERE FIRST CALLED CHRISTIANS FIRST IN ANTICOH. John 13:33-35 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. BY THIS SHALL ALL MEN KNOW THAT YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES, if ye have love one to another. Luke 10:23-24 And he turned him unto HIS DISCIPLES, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. Luke 6:13 And when it was day, he called unto him his DISCIPLES: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;


They never began to call the disciples by the title Christians until Antioch, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Acts 11:26 And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. “AND THE DISCIPLES WERE FIRST CALLED CHRISTIANS FIRST IN ANTICOH.

For I will never hold you accountable for the things that you know NOT, but only of the things that you do. And now I AM COMING UNTO YOU, through thy Elect Sister in whom I have said to GREET THEE. To tell you who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not read, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures..
2 John 1:12-13 Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full. The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.

For I AM not your Jesus/Yeshua and My Father is not your GOD in whom the Amorites, in whose land you are ignorantly calling My Father's land when it is not. This land is ONLY YOUR TESTING GROUND,... IN which you are not passing your test, and as a GOOD, TEACHER WHICH I AM. I have come to tell you this, giving you a chance to AWAKEN, from your sleep, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Ephesian 5:13-15 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise.
1 Corinthians 3:18-20 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with the FATHER. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain Joshua 24:13-15 And I have given you a land for which ye did not labour, and cities which ye built not, and ye dwell in them; of the vineyards and oliveyards which ye planted not do ye eat. Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

For you have chosen another CHRIST in his own name. I warned you of this when I said that another is coming IN HIS OWN NAME, and HIM YE WILL RECEIVE, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
And you have received him in his own name who is Jesus/Yeshua in whom they have replaced MY SAVING NAME with throughout My Father's Holy Scriptures when I left your world age.. I warned you of this when I said gave unto John the punishment that I would bring to those that have done this as well as those that are teaching another Christ other then I saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures.. have you not read.. Revelation 22:16-19 I YAHOSHUA have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT” AND THE “BRIDE” SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, 'the Father' shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, 'the Father' shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

For I AM Yahoshua the ONLY NAME that is carrying the three NAMES that are NEEDED to BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN as well as in Earth, for even the demons that are within this Earth crust knows My NAME and they tremble.. I AM Yahoshua the only NAME that is carrying the NAMES of My "FATHER" the "WORD" as well as the "HOLY SPIRIT" ALL WITHIN MY OWN NAME, now I ask you this teacher. Where in the name of Jesus/Yeshua is it showing you these names, I ask? And answer Me, if thou have any understanding, for if My Father is bearing record to My NAME, HIS WORD IS GREATER THEN YOURS, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... 1 John 5:7-13 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the "FATHER", the “WORD", as well as the “HOLY SPIRIT": and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, ‘and the blood: and these three agree in one. IF WE RECEIVE THE WITNESS OF MEN, ‘THE WITNESS OF THE FATHER IS GREATER’: for this is the witness of "the Father" which he hath testified of his Son. He that believe on the Son of "the Father" hath the witness in himself: he that believe not "the Father" ‘HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because he believe not the ‘RECORD THAT THE FATHER GAVE OF HIS SON’. AND THIS IS THE RECORD, THAT ‘THE FATHER’ HATH GIVEN TO US ETERNAL LIFE, and THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of "the Father" hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of "the Father" that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of ‘the Father’.

This is how you find Me, who is your true Savior.. I AM...YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ unto the GENTILE NATIONS of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH. I AM the ONLY NAME that is carrying the “THEE WITNESS” that are NEEDED to BEAR RECORD to My NAME... Many have called this the “Trinity", And it is fine to do, because it is still showing you MY POSITIONS,

The THREE WITNESSES are only FOUND in MY NAME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ unto YOU.. It is only in My NAME, that is showing you the NAMES of My “FATHER" who is "YAH" the "WORD", who I AM, "YOSHUA", who is also the "SON", as well as the "HOLY SPIRIT", which is SIGNIFIED, by the "AH" that is also in My FATHER'S NAME who is "YAH" as in YAHOVEH/YAHUVEH. Which is also carrying the "SACRED LETTERS" of My FATHER'S "SACRED NAME" who is YHVH, not YHWH. The YHVH, which is also found in My FATHER'S NAME which is... Y a H o V e H / Y a H u V e H.

I have sent thy elect sister unto you many times.. So that I could be able to come unto you face to face, as I have promised that I would, and you have received her not, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... 2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

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A prophetic word... IF YOU RECEIVED ME.. KNOW THIS... I YAHOSHUA have NEVER TAUGHT YOU TO CALL YOURSELVES BY THE TITLE OF "CHRISTIAN"... FOR I have never called you this, so why are you? The word Christian, which simply means Christ followers, which is a title that I YAHOSHUA has never given to you, to label yourselves by, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE “TWO" CHRIST, DO YOU? For I knew that you would not know which Christ you would be following, for again there are two, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Matthew 24:4-5 And Yahoshua answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in MY NAME, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.. This is why I NEVER TAUGHT YOU TO LABEL yourselves by the Title of “CHRISTIANS".

I called you My “DISCIPLES”, and never CHRISTIANS. saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Acts 11:26 And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. “AND THE DISCIPLES WERE FIRST CALLED CHRISTIANS FIRST IN ANTICOH. John 13:33-35 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. BY THIS SHALL ALL MEN KNOW THAT YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES, if ye have love one to another. Luke 10:23-24 And he turned him unto HIS DISCIPLES, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. Luke 6:13 And when it was day, he called unto him his DISCIPLES: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;


They never began to call the disciples by the title Christians until Antioch, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Acts 11:26 And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. “AND THE DISCIPLES WERE FIRST CALLED CHRISTIANS FIRST IN ANTICOH.

For I will never hold you accountable for the things that you know NOT, but only of the things that you do. And now I AM COMING UNTO YOU, through thy Elect Sister in whom I have said to GREET THEE. To tell you who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not read, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures..
2 John 1:12-13 Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full. The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.

For I AM not your Jesus/Yeshua and My Father is not your GOD in whom the Amorites, in whose land you are ignorantly calling My Father's land when it is not. This land is ONLY YOUR TESTING GROUND,... IN which you are not passing your test, and as a GOOD, TEACHER WHICH I AM. I have come to tell you this, giving you a chance to AWAKEN, from your sleep, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Ephesian 5:13-15 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise.
1 Corinthians 3:18-20 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with the FATHER. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain Joshua 24:13-15 And I have given you a land for which ye did not labour, and cities which ye built not, and ye dwell in them; of the vineyards and oliveyards which ye planted not do ye eat. Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

For you have chosen another CHRIST in his own name. I warned you of this when I said that another is coming IN HIS OWN NAME, and HIM YE WILL RECEIVE, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in

Shalom
for you to make such a big deal about what we call ourselves being the people of God, it's ridiculous. Whether we were called Christians or chimichangas or buranas or whatever, it doesn't matter. We are who we are is what matters and what we do for the glory of God is what matters not by the sound of a word that we call ourselves. even so, Jesus does not only refer to us as disciples. he also sees us as family and friends and even more.

to make such a long speech about simply that we use the word Christian to identify ourselves that we serve Christ is ridiculous and meaningless. Just because Christ didn't tell us to use that word doesn't mean it's wrong. For us to call ourselves Christians is not a sin and therefore it's not wrong that we do that. We still also call ourselves disciples, maybe not 100% of the time but we know that we are Christians and we are disciples.

Personally, I always viewed it like this;
Asian of Asia, African of Africa, Galatian of Galatia, American of America, Russian of Russia and Christian of Christ.

It makes sense to see it that way that it's a label to say where or who we come from and what or who we are a part of. Christian seems like a nickname for being a part of Christ. Does it matter if Jesus didn't tell us to call ourselves that? No. So why go on so much about it if its not a sin?
We know we are who we are by Christ, not by what words we call ourselves.
 
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for you to make such a big deal about what we call ourselves being the people of God, it's ridiculous. Whether we were called Christians or chimichangas or buranas or whatever, it doesn't matter. We are who we are is what matters and what we do for the glory of God is what matters not by the sound of a word that we call ourselves. even so, Jesus does not only refer to us as disciples. he also sees us as family and friends and even more.

to make such a long speech about simply that we use the word Christian to identify ourselves that we serve Christ is ridiculous and meaningless. Just because Christ didn't tell us to use that word doesn't mean it's wrong. For us to call ourselves Christians is not a sin and therefore it's not wrong that we do that. We still also call ourselves disciples, maybe not 100% of the time but we know that we are Christians and we are disciples.

Personally, I always viewed it like this;
Asian of Asia, African of Africa, Galatian of Galatia, American of America, Russian of Russia and Christian of Christ.

It makes sense to see it that way that it's a label to say where or who we come from and what or who we are a part of. Christian seems like a nickname for being a part of Christ. Does it matter if Jesus didn't tell us to call ourselves that? No. So why go on so much about it if its not a sin?
We know we are who we are by Christ, not by what words we call ourselves.
A prophetic word... IF YOU RECEIVED ME.. KNOW THIS... I YAHOSHUA have NEVER TAUGHT YOU TO CALL YOURSELVES BY THE TITLE OF "CHRISTIAN"... FOR I have never called you this, so why are you? The word Christian, which simply means Christ followers, which is a title that I YAHOSHUA has never given to you, to label yourselves by, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE “TWO" CHRIST, DO YOU? For I knew that you would not know which Christ you would be following, for again there are two, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Matthew 24:4-5 And Yahoshua answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in MY NAME, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.. This is why I NEVER TAUGHT YOU TO LABEL yourselves by the Title of “CHRISTIANS".

I called you My “DISCIPLES”, and never CHRISTIANS. saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Acts 11:26 And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. “AND THE DISCIPLES WERE FIRST CALLED CHRISTIANS FIRST IN ANTICOH. John 13:33-35 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. BY THIS SHALL ALL MEN KNOW THAT YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES, if ye have love one to another. Luke 10:23-24 And he turned him unto HIS DISCIPLES, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. Luke 6:13 And when it was day, he called unto him his DISCIPLES: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;


They never began to call the disciples by the title Christians until Antioch, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Acts 11:26 And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. “AND THE DISCIPLES WERE FIRST CALLED CHRISTIANS FIRST IN ANTICOH.

For I will never hold you accountable for the things that you know NOT, but only of the things that you do. And now I AM COMING UNTO YOU, through thy Elect Sister in whom I have said to GREET THEE. To tell you who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not read, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures..
2 John 1:12-13 Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full. The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.

For I AM not your Jesus/Yeshua and My Father is not your GOD in whom the Amorites, in whose land you are ignorantly calling My Father's land when it is not. This land is ONLY YOUR TESTING GROUND,... IN which you are not passing your test, and as a GOOD, TEACHER WHICH I AM. I have come to tell you this, giving you a chance to AWAKEN, from your sleep, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... Ephesian 5:13-15 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise.
1 Corinthians 3:18-20 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with the FATHER. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain Joshua 24:13-15 And I have given you a land for which ye did not labour, and cities which ye built not, and ye dwell in them; of the vineyards and oliveyards which ye planted not do ye eat. Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Continue to Part 2...
 
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IF YOU RATHER ME LIE TO YOU, Then you are speaking to the WRONG ONE, for I take My SALVATION VERY SERIOUS.

Part 2...
For you have chosen another CHRIST in his own name. I warned you of this when I said that another is coming IN HIS OWN NAME, and HIM YE WILL RECEIVE, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
And you have received him in his own name who is Jesus/Yeshua in whom they have replaced MY SAVING NAME with throughout My Father's Holy Scriptures when I left your world age.. I warned you of this when I said gave unto John the punishment that I would bring to those that have done this as well as those that are teaching another Christ other then I saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures.. have you not read.. Revelation 22:16-19 I YAHOSHUA have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT” AND THE “BRIDE” SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, 'the Father' shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, 'the Father' shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

For I AM Yahoshua the ONLY NAME that is carrying the three NAMES that are NEEDED to BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN as well as in Earth, for even the demons that are within this Earth crust knows My NAME and they tremble.. I AM Yahoshua the only NAME that is carrying the NAMES of My "FATHER" the "WORD" as well as the "HOLY SPIRIT" ALL WITHIN MY OWN NAME, now I ask you this teacher. Where in the name of Jesus/Yeshua is it showing you these names, I ask? And answer Me, if thou have any understanding, for if My Father is bearing record to My NAME, HIS WORD IS GREATER THEN YOURS, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... 1 John 5:7-13 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the "FATHER", the “WORD", as well as the “HOLY SPIRIT": and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, ‘and the blood: and these three agree in one. IF WE RECEIVE THE WITNESS OF MEN, ‘THE WITNESS OF THE FATHER IS GREATER’: for this is the witness of "the Father" which he hath testified of his Son. He that believe on the Son of "the Father" hath the witness in himself: he that believe not "the Father" ‘HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because he believe not the ‘RECORD THAT THE FATHER GAVE OF HIS SON’. AND THIS IS THE RECORD, THAT ‘THE FATHER’ HATH GIVEN TO US ETERNAL LIFE, and THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of "the Father" hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of "the Father" that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of ‘the Father’.

This is how you find Me, who is your true Savior.. I AM...YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ unto the GENTILE NATIONS of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH. I AM the ONLY NAME that is carrying the “THEE WITNESS” that are NEEDED to BEAR RECORD to My NAME... Many have called this the “Trinity", And it is fine to do, because it is still showing you MY POSITIONS,

The THREE WITNESSES are only FOUND in MY NAME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ unto YOU.. It is only in My NAME, that is showing you the NAMES of My “FATHER" who is "YAH" the "WORD", who I AM, "YOSHUA", who is also the "SON", as well as the "HOLY SPIRIT", which is SIGNIFIED, by the "AH" that is also in My FATHER'S NAME who is "YAH" as in YAHOVEH/YAHUVEH. Which is also carrying the "SACRED LETTERS" of My FATHER'S "SACRED NAME" who is YHVH, not YHWH. The YHVH, which is also found in My FATHER'S NAME which is...
Y a H o V e H / Y a H u V e H.

I have sent thy elect sister unto you many times.. So that I could be able to come unto you face to face, as I have promised that I would, and you have received her not, have you not read, saith Christ Yahoshua, fulfilling the Father scriptures... 2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

Shalom