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Zmouth

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Sometimes I wonder if they've ever had sound doctrine in the first place.
So what doctrine do you use to determine whether a rule or belief constitutes a sound doctrine or not? (Seems a person who had sound doctrine would be able to answer how to distinguish between the doctrine of Christ and the doctrine of man...)
 

JaumeJ

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Here is sound doctrine derived from the Word of God but not said outright.

It may seem off but as I was making up some unleavened bread it occurred to me, something wonderful.

Althou we do not truly realize it always we do not have leavening in our houses, for our house is truly the Temple of god and we are lively stones of that House.

How can this be? Our understanding and our teaching is of Jesus, that Bread from Heaven born in the House of Bread, Bethlechem.

He, being our only bread from Heaven, is our Bread, and there is no leavening in His Word.

Leven is only found in the bread of men teaching things God has never given us to learn. BEware the rabbinical teaching of man.

Have the Bread from Heaven. If you do, like it or not, you are always keeping the Passover...because of our Savior, the Bread from Heaven, praise Jesus, Yeshua, amen.
 

Zmouth

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Leven is only found in the bread of men teaching things God has never given us to learn. BEware the rabbinical teaching of man.
Since a man can receive nothing except it be given unto him from heaven, and nothing is received in heaven unless it is sowed in the man.

This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. John 6:58

11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? 12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
Matt 16:11-12
 
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Miri

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#45
He isn’t even called Jesus in every language!

https://www.christianity.com/jesus/...ua-yashua-y-shua-or-jesus-which-is-right.html


It matters not what you call Him, it’s more important that you know Him.

On here I’m called Miri.

My real name is different, known to people in the real world plus a few on here, who
know me better.

My nick name is known by even fewer people just a handful,.

Yet they are all still me.
 
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#46
You know there have been a lot of "messiahs'" over the centuries.... We (my people) are looking for even two Messiahs…. Messiah Ben Joseph and Messiah Ben David. But what so many do not understand their is NOT TWO MESSIAHS... ONLY ONE CHRIST AND TWO COMMINGS!!!! Christ/ Messiah has come as Messiah Ben - Joseph and HE IS COMMING BACK AS Messiah Ben- David!!!
Son of God......Joseph was not his father.....

This is MY SON in whom I am well pleased...hear ye HIM!
 

maverich

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I love the fact that so many of you see me as a challenge to your religious beliefs.
Scripture say if you ask the father in my name. Also there is a name above all names.
OT over 100 times Jesus is mentioned.
The angel said his name will be Jesus.
Revelation
He had a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
I will say bluntly if you pray in christ's name you are wasting your time
Lastly, Paul said who are you lord, I AM
Jesus whom thou persecute.
The holy spirit taught me.
 

gb9

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I love the fact that so many of you see me as a challenge to your religious beliefs.
Scripture say if you ask the father in my name. Also there is a name above all names.
OT over 100 times Jesus is mentioned.
The angel said his name will be Jesus.
Revelation
He had a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
I will say bluntly if you pray in christ's name you are wasting your time
Lastly, Paul said who are you lord, I AM
Jesus whom thou persecute.
The holy spirit taught me.
o.k., so I pray in Jesus's name. is that o.k. with you?
 
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#54
I love the fact that so many of you see me as a challenge to your religious beliefs.
Scripture say if you ask the father in my name. Also there is a name above all names.
OT over 100 times Jesus is mentioned.
The angel said his name will be Jesus.
Revelation
He had a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
I will say bluntly if you pray in christ's name you are wasting your time
Lastly, Paul said who are you lord, I AM
Jesus whom thou persecute.
The holy spirit taught me.
You lift yourself way to high man...you are a challenge to practically no one....serious!
 

maverich

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You lift yourself way to high man...you are a challenge to practically no one....serious!
no i lift jesus high, and it drives religous people nuts, by the way, the theif was with him and called him lord. Jesus is his name
the point of this whole OP is that God has a name when you pray, it should be Father or Abba. Jesus has a name when you pray, It is Jesus.
you all say your great theologians, but you fail in the most basic instructions of Abba and Jesus
Dilute Father to God, and you could be praying to anyone. Dilute the name of Jesus to Christ and you are hiding your belief from people
 
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#58
The term the Anointed: Hebrew Messiah - Greek Christ, is just a label for identification purposes. That IDs Him as the one Moses spoke of that would supplant the Old Covenant. It has nothing to do with His status today. :cool:
The Spirit of Christ is the anointing Holy Spirit of God, the I Am .

God does not have a name as humans do needed to identify one another. All of the names speak of His immutable attributes . He has no fear of identify theft.
 
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#59
the point of this whole OP is that God has a name when you pray, it should be Father or Abba. Jesus has a name when you pray, It is Jesus.
If you want to get technical about the "name" in which we are to pray, then "Jesus" is not the name our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ called Himself.

When Jesus walked the earth, He would have told the people His name was Yehoshua which means "Yahweh saves" (or "Yahweh is salvation").

When we pray, God knows to Whom we pray. He sees our hearts.

Psalm 44:20-21 If we have forgotten the name of our God, or stretched out our hands to a strange god; Shall not God search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart.



 
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Cantaloupe Head Riding In Space Time.