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#61
Here is the basic truth behind my faith.

If God did it for Paul he will surely do it for me. You know it to you according to your faith.
You're clueless and on the wrong track concerning faith. But carry on.
 

emekrus

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Amen, God had a purpose behind Pauls healing.. God may not have that same purpose for others.. he may have other plans. Like using their death or sickness to teach or help others. Or keep ones pride in check, as he told paul when paul begged him to remove his illness. My grace is sufficient.
Amen, God had also purposed my healing and health.
 

Budman

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#63
Well,

I am only saying what God says I am. And definitely I am not alone.
God calls you a liar.

"...before Me there was no God formed, nor shall there be after me." (Isaiah 41:8)

"I AM The Lord, and there is no other, there is no God beside me." (Isaiah 45:5)
 

Hevosmies

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#64
I call it like I see it:

You see a christian today and odds are they are in the word of faith movement, because this movement is teh one with the most missionaries, most money, most influence and most appealing to the flesh doctrines.

Thanks to the american televangelists and internet, now its worldwide.

What I believe is the "purpose" of this word of faith movement is: To make people lose their faith. here is how it works:

People visit a church, they like the rock music, the sodomite looking soft pastor having a soft sermon on how amazing and awesome you are and how God has a wonderful plan for you, the dimmed lights and emotional music. Then people go forward in their emotions and "get saved".

They then continue in the faith, buying books from fake apostles preachers and teachers. Time goes by and when they notice they arent getting healed, and some other fakers have been healed, they LOSE FAITH because they think. "Oh well, I just didnt have enough faith for God to heal me"
The next thing you know they are practicing yoga and drinking starbucks. (Unless they already were doing that in church, you know, thats a thing in some churches today)
 

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#66
Here are other translations for those who care for the truth and not public opinion:

Psalms 82:6

I say, 'You are gods; you are all children of the Most High. (NLT)

"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (NIV)
I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. (NASB)
"I, the Most High God, say that all of you are gods and also my own children. (CEV)
 

Hevosmies

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#67
Here are other translations for those who care for the truth and not public opinion:

Psalms 82:6

I say, 'You are gods; you are all children of the Most High. (NLT)

"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (NIV)
I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. (NASB)
"I, the Most High God, say that all of you are gods and also my own children. (CEV)
WEll, you are actually in the majority today. You got all the money, you got all the radio stations, you got all the TV channels, you got all the mission fields, you got all the internet websites.

Word of Faith is standard operating procedure in the apostate modern church.

RIP Christianity. Im still waiting if someone has another word or title we can use?
 

Budman

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#68
Here are other translations for those who care for the truth and not public opinion:

Psalms 82:6

I say, 'You are gods; you are all children of the Most High. (NLT)

"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (NIV)
I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. (NASB)
"I, the Most High God, say that all of you are gods and also my own children. (CEV)
Yet again, God calls you a liar.

"...before Me there was no God formed, nor shall there be after me." (Isaiah 41:8)

"I AM The Lord, and there is no other, there is no God beside me." (Isaiah 45:5)
 

emekrus

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#69
But He has NOT purposed you to call yourself a god. The sooner you realize you aren't a god, the better off you'll be..
He has purposed me to be god, that's what the scripture clearly says. Read it with an open mind and you'll realize it.I am the son of God so of course, I am god. The son of a dog is dog. The son of goat is a goat. the son of devil is a devil.
 

Hevosmies

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He has purposed me to be god, that's what the scripture clearly says. Read it with an open mind and you'll realize it.I am the son of God so of course, I am god. The son of a dog is dog. The son of goat is a goat. the son of devil is a devil.
Straight from Creflo Dollar's playbook. Stop watching american fake christian TV.

if im a god, i would like my superpowers NOW not later. perfect vision, no pain, perfect health. I'd be a pro-boxer. Maybe beat mayweather's record.

Btw one of the things that get me about you word of faith folks, HOW COME so many of the word of faith pastors have GLASSES? Why cant they see properly? Why doesnt God heal their eye-sight? Those losers just dont got enough faith to even get their vision fixed?
 
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He has purposed me to be god, that's what the scripture clearly says. Read it with an open mind and you'll realize it.I am the son of God so of course, I am god. The son of a dog is dog. The son of goat is a goat. the son of devil is a devil.
This is ridiculous. Satan has hoodwinked you.
 

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#72
Yet again, God calls you a liar.

"...before Me there was no God formed, nor shall there be after me." (Isaiah 41:8)

"I AM The Lord, and there is no other, there is no God beside me." (Isaiah 45:5)
I don't see how God calls a liar for agreeing with his own words. I did not say I am the Almighty God. The Almighty God is my God and Father. Yet according to his word, every of his son is god. Put doctrines aside and read carefully again.
 

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He has purposed me to be god, that's what the scripture clearly says. Read it with an open mind and you'll realize it.I am the son of God so of course, I am god. The son of a dog is dog. The son of goat is a goat. the son of devil is a devil.
WOW. You are an evil blasphemer. You just stated that God purposed you to be god. Then you say you ARE God.

The son of a dog is a puppy. The son of a goat is a lamb. And the son of the devil is a demon. You're making God very angry right now.
 

Budman

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#74
He has purposed me to be god, that's what the scripture clearly says. Read it with an open mind and you'll realize it.I am the son of God so of course, I am god. The son of a dog is dog. The son of goat is a goat. the son of devil is a devil.
Here, have a read:

The basis for the “little gods” claim is found in two Scripture passages. Psalm 82:6 reads, “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’” Jesus quotes this psalm in John 10:34, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I have said you are gods’?” However, both of these passages include explanations in the immediate context that clearly do not indicate human divinity. Psalm 82:6 is followed by a warning that “you will all die like mere men, you will fall like every other ruler” (verse 7). The reference is to mortal men who represent God’s authority in the world—kings, judges, and magistrates. (Please see our article on Psalm 82:6.)

Psalm 82 is a warning to unjust leaders who consider themselves “gods” (Psalm 82:1) yet who “know nothing,” who “walk about in darkness” (Psalm 82:5). Jesus used this passage in response to those who accused Him of blasphemy. Essentially, Jesus asked why, when human rulers were called gods, “the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world” (John 10:36) was blaspheming by claiming to be God’s Son.

Claiming divinity for Christians is insupportable, especially taking the rest of the Bible into account. God is God alone (Isaiah 37:16). We have never been God, we are not God now, and we never will be God. Jesus was fully God and fully man (a combination called the hypostatic union). If the “little gods” hypothesis is accepted, it imputes to Jesus a lesser divinity of some kind; He became a “little god” like us. John said that “the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us” (John 1:14), but this does not indicate “a lesser divinity.” Jesus took on human flesh and blood in order to die for our sins (Hebrews 2:14), yet He retained His full position in the Godhead. God created us with a spirit, but that spirit does not hold divine qualities. -GotQuestions.com
 

blue_ladybug

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I don't see how God calls a liar for agreeing with his own words. I did not say I am the Almighty God. The Almighty God is my God and Father. Yet according to his word, every of his son is god. Put doctrines aside and read carefully again.
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. What part of that do you not understand?

Any other gods are false gods.
 
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#77
Here are other translations for those who care for the truth and not public opinion:

Psalms 82:6

I say, 'You are gods; you are all children of the Most High. (NLT)

"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (NIV)
I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. (NASB)
"I, the Most High God, say that all of you are gods and also my own children. (CEV)

Yes, that is what the Scripture says. But you do not know what it means, and satan has deceived you. Just like in, um, the garden..."you shall be as gods..." And you believe him.

Now you're in trouble.

There is a context to the Scripture above, and the truth to the Scripture above, but you're not interested in Scripture unless it appeals to your fleshly nature, to your carnal innate desires, covetous nature, breaks the first commandment making you god, and speaks of you. Then you twist its meaning and take it out of context. You don't want the truth, you want your truth.
 

Budman

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#78
I don't see how God calls a liar for agreeing with his own words. I did not say I am the Almighty God. The Almighty God is my God and Father. Yet according to his word, every of his son is god. Put doctrines aside and read carefully again.
"...before Me there was no God formed, nor shall there be after me." (Isaiah 41:8)

"I AM The Lord, and there is no other, there is no God beside me." (Isaiah 45:5)

Pay attention to the "nor shall there be after me" and "there is no God beside me" parts.

Either God is lying, or you are.
 
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#79
Ridiculous? Well, so it appears to so many. And about your last statement, why are you assuming so? Our assumptions can be our problems you know?
You want to talk about assumptions? Really now? Wow! I've not witnessed such blindness man. I'm going to pray for you if perhaps you will be delivered.
 

emekrus

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#80
Here, have a read:

The basis for the “little gods” claim is found in two Scripture passages. Psalm 82:6 reads, “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’” Jesus quotes this psalm in John 10:34, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I have said you are gods’?” However, both of these passages include explanations in the immediate context that clearly do not indicate human divinity. Psalm 82:6 is followed by a warning that “you will all die like mere men, you will fall like every other ruler” (verse 7). The reference is to mortal men who represent God’s authority in the world—kings, judges, and magistrates. (Please see our article on Psalm 82:6.)

Psalm 82 is a warning to unjust leaders who consider themselves “gods” (Psalm 82:1) yet who “know nothing,” who “walk about in darkness” (Psalm 82:5). Jesus used this passage in response to those who accused Him of blasphemy. Essentially, Jesus asked why, when human rulers were called gods, “the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world” (John 10:36) was blaspheming by claiming to be God’s Son.

Claiming divinity for Christians is insupportable, especially taking the rest of the Bible into account. God is God alone (Isaiah 37:16). We have never been God, we are not God now, and we never will be God. Jesus was fully God and fully man (a combination called the hypostatic union). If the “little gods” hypothesis is accepted, it imputes to Jesus a lesser divinity of some kind; He became a “little god” like us. John said that “the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us” (John 1:14), but this does not indicate “a lesser divinity.” Jesus took on human flesh and blood in order to die for our sins (Hebrews 2:14), yet He retained His full position in the Godhead. God created us with a spirit, but that spirit does not hold divine qualities. -GotQuestions.com
Here, have a read:

The basis for the “little gods” claim is found in two Scripture passages. Psalm 82:6 reads, “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’” Jesus quotes this psalm in John 10:34, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I have said you are gods’?” However, both of these passages include explanations in the immediate context that clearly do not indicate human divinity. Psalm 82:6 is followed by a warning that “you will all die like mere men, you will fall like every other ruler” (verse 7). The reference is to mortal men who represent God’s authority in the world—kings, judges, and magistrates. (Please see our article on Psalm 82:6.)

Psalm 82 is a warning to unjust leaders who consider themselves “gods” (Psalm 82:1) yet who “know nothing,” who “walk about in darkness” (Psalm 82:5). Jesus used this passage in response to those who accused Him of blasphemy. Essentially, Jesus asked why, when human rulers were called gods, “the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world” (John 10:36) was blaspheming by claiming to be God’s Son.

Claiming divinity for Christians is insupportable, especially taking the rest of the Bible into account. God is God alone (Isaiah 37:16). We have never been God, we are not God now, and we never will be God. Jesus was fully God and fully man (a combination called the hypostatic union). If the “little gods” hypothesis is accepted, it imputes to Jesus a lesser divinity of some kind; He became a “little god” like us. John said that “the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us” (John 1:14), but this does not indicate “a lesser divinity.” Jesus took on human flesh and blood in order to die for our sins (Hebrews 2:14), yet He retained His full position in the Godhead. God created us with a spirit, but that spirit does not hold divine qualities. -GotQuestions.com
This exegesis is clearly myopic in context. And every lover of truth can see it clearly. It is scripture twisting for the sake of disagreement. And of course, I don't believe a kindergarten student that can read and understand English Language will accept the above exegesis as the contextual truth. Other than an emotional scriptural twisting.