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Paul disagrees with your antinomian beliefs.

Last book of the bible, book of Revelation. Jesus speaks to the CHURCHES, and He has no problems calling out their sins? Wonder whats going on there? how do you twist that in your belief system? Why does Jesus still see their sins? And make no mistake about it, its not to "the jews" it says CHURCHES.

Why did Paul write 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, galatians 5:19-21? Will you be addressing these texts? Probably not.
Why did Paul say the spiritual man judges all things? Why did Paul rebuke people? Why did Paul tell others in the ministry to rebuke and exhort? Why did Paul tell us to go by the wholesome words of our Lord Jesus Christ in 1 Timothy 6:3? Why did Paul preach repentance and faith, just like Jesus did? Why did Paul preach the SAME MESSAGE to Jews and Gentiles as we see here?

All these questions expose your weird warped new belief system as "heiracy". Or should I say heresy?


Act 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

There it is. Same message for both jews and gentiles, repentance and faith, just like Jesus, just like Peter. Straight from Paul.

Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Would be happy to address your “herasy”.....let the reader notice how you chose 1 Corinthians 6:10...And leave out 11.....this is not by chance but I will post it......notice “were” past tense, you don’t like 11 do you?

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
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Jesus speaks one Gospel to all, beginning with Abraham then to His own people in the people of the Hebrews and then to His own people in the Gentiles...…. If you believe He is speaking of the law to the then Jews, He is speaking the same to all.......One Gospel.
Dear god help this man
 

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God is and has helped me for many decades.

It is written the Gospel was first given to Abraham.

Jesus said He ha another flock other than the original (the children of Israel), that other flock is the Gentiles which He said He would bring together with His original Flock

He is the Good shepherd and we are His sheep along with the original flock, brought together with all faithful under One Shepherd.

May you learn in the Holy Spirit always, amen.
 
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Would be happy to address your “herasy”.....let the reader notice how you chose 1 Corinthians 6:10...And leave out 11.....this is not by chance but I will post it......notice “were” past tense, you don’t like 11 do you?

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
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Amazing, you do it again here....what was wrong with Galatians 5:18? You seem to cherry pick your scripture And it is becoming a habit for you, I’ll post 18, as it helps to make sense of 19
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
 

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Would be happy to address your “herasy”.....let the reader notice how you chose 1 Corinthians 6:10...And leave out 11.....this is not by chance but I will post it......notice “were” past tense, you don’t like 11 do you?

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
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I got no problem with that verse.

They repented. God sanctified them.

You cant even see the scripture re-defining and twisting you are doing? Oy vey! Deception runs deep!
 
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God is and has helped me for many decades.

It is written the Gospel was first given to Abraham.

Jesus said He ha another flock other than the original (the children of Israel), that other flock is the Gentiles which He said He would bring together with His original Flock

He is the Good shepherd and we are His sheep along with the original flock, brought together with all faithful under One Shepherd.

May you learn in the Holy Spirit always, amen.
Yes, all one body of Christ, as it has “many members” but that does not mean that you water down grace by applying a message not meant for you and in the wrong dispinsation
 

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Yes, all one body of Christ, as it has “many members” but that does not mean that you water down grace by applying a message not meant for you and in the wrong dispinsation
Even Paul teaches there is but one Gospel, and if any man teach another, not that there is another, let him be accursed.

Do not teach there is one truth for one group, and another truth for a different group.........this is apostasy.........

The next time you believe someone else needs God's help, explain yourself, for what you have been posting is far from the Word.
 
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I got no problem with that verse.

They repented. God sanctified them.
They were washed in the blood of Christ because they “believed” repentance is not a prerequisite for salvation....you do not seem to comprehend that Christ died for the sin of the entire world....you quote scripture and cherry pick to make a point that is void of grace in its fullness
 
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Even Paul teaches there is but one Gospel, and if any man teach another, not that there is another, let him be accursed.

Do not teach there is one truth for one group, and another truth for a different group.........this is apostasy.........

The next time you believe someone else needs God's help, explain yourself, for what you have been posting is far from the Word.
Ok genius, then why did Paul need to write the epistles? Why not copy paste what Jesus said? Wouldn’t it make sense that the reader hear it directly from the author that apparently in your interpretation was speaking to you, the lost sheep of Israel?
 

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They were washed in the blood of Christ because they “believed” repentance is not a prerequisite for salvation....you do not seem to comprehend that Christ died for the sin of the entire world....you quote scripture and cherry pick to make a point that is void of grace in its fullness
Uhm...
What about the verses I quoted earlier, which state repentance and faith. Thats THE message throughout the new testament by ALL the apostles including Paul. Here it is again:

Act 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

There it is. Same message for both jews and gentiles, repentance and faith, just like Jesus, just like Peter. Straight from Paul.

Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

You cannot escape it. Repentance is NECESSARY.

2 Corinthians 7:10-11
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

Sounds like you are disagreeing with the Apostle Paul. Didn't he understand hyper-dispensational theology either?
If the words of Paul who you say is the authority for gentiles today dont convince you.... my job here is done nothing I can do. only God can help. CYA
 
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Ok genius, then why did Paul need to write the epistles? Why not copy paste what Jesus said? Wouldn’t it make sense that the reader hear it directly from the author that apparently in your interpretation was speaking to you, the lost sheep of Israel?
Even Paul teaches there is but one Gospel, and if any man teach another, not that there is another, let him be accursed.

Do not teach there is one truth for one group, and another truth for a different group.........this is apostasy.........

The next time you believe someone else needs God's help, explain yourself, for what you have been posting is far from the Word.
If you do not understand that Paul preached the finished work of the cross, and Jesus was teaching in his earthly ministry, gospel relating to the lost sheep of Israel, I have nothing to say other than read more....of course everything Jesus said is holy and to be revered as he is the author of everything, he is a part of the god head....what you guys do not understand is that he has a specific message for the Jews, as did Paul for the gentiles....
 
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Lord Jesus, I pray Your goodness into the life of all believers here on this thread today. I pray for the Spirit of Truth to have residence within us and give us the spiritual eyes You have Jesus. Have mercy on other sinners, for there is no condemnation from the Father in You, Jesus. But the biggest compassion on ourselves and others is to hate sin and forsake it, with the help of Your Helper. To do no harm, to speak no harsh words, to not quarrel. May the Father bless anyone who reads these words and may they feel His love and care for their individual lives. In Your name, Jesus!
 
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Uhm...
What about the verses I quoted earlier, which state repentance and faith. Thats THE message throughout the new testament by ALL the apostles including Paul. Here it is again:

Act 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

There it is. Same message for both jews and gentiles, repentance and faith, just like Jesus, just like Peter. Straight from Paul.

Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

You cannot escape it. Repentance is NECESSARY.

2 Corinthians 7:10-11
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

Sounds like you are disagreeing with the Apostle Paul. Didn't he understand hyper-dispensational theology either?
If the words of Paul who you say is the authority for gentiles today dont convince you.... my job here is done nothing I can do. only God can help. CYA
I am working on it, I am at work and also responding to many angry corporate church goers that do not understand rightly dividing the word...I guess I’m being mildly persecuted
 
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Lord Jesus, I pray Your goodness into the life of all believers here on this thread today. I pray for the Spirit of Truth to have residence within us and give us the spiritual eyes You have Jesus. Have mercy on other sinners, for there is no condemnation from the Father in You, Jesus. But the biggest compassion on ourselves and others is to hate sin and forsake it, with the help of Your Helper. To do no harm, to speak no harsh words, to not quarrel. May the Father bless anyone who reads these words and may they feel His love and care for their individual lives. In Your name, Jesus!
Amen
 
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I am working on it, I am at work and also responding to many angry corporate church goers that do not understand rightly dividing the word...I guess I’m being mildly persecuted
Corporate church goers at work, huh how's that?
 
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If you do not understand that Paul preached the finished work of the cross, and Jesus was teaching in his earthly ministry, gospel relating to the lost sheep of Israel, I have nothing to say other than read more....of course everything Jesus said is holy and to be revered as he is the author of everything, he is a part of the god head....what you guys do not understand is that he has a specific message for the Jews, as did Paul for the gentiles....
Message delivered, it is finished...
 
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Then of course you put words in my mouth. Bro, if you cannot read what an uninspired human writes without eisegeting, it is easy to see how you do the same with Scripture.

I'm sorry to say this but you don't know what in the world you're talking about. You need to take a loooong walk away from DTS, Lewis Sperry Chafer, Charles Ryrie and Zane Hodges, only then would you see clearly. Some 100 years ago or so none of this nonsense was even taught, that should tell you something right there. You've been hoodwinked bro.
It is not putting words in your mouth and I am fine where I am....I do not know the names you speak of but I will say this....I apologize if I have come off as judgemental or angry....this is a public forum and I am just coming to realize what watered down grace really is
 
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Corporate church goers at work, huh how's that?
Haha I mean I am littleraly at work, trying to respond to some mild persecution.....I’m being somewhat sarcastic...at first I thought posting what was in my heart here would benefit someone, but I’m realizing that my delivery is pretty much horrible...so I am learning how to convey what the spirit has taught me....without creating an argument that no one will benefit from
 
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Would be happy to address your “herasy”.....let the reader notice how you chose 1 Corinthians 6:10...And leave out 11.....this is not by chance but I will post it......notice “were” past tense, you don’t like 11 do you?

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
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Before I go further....explain to me what you believe Paul means by “all things are lawful unto me”? This is not Roman’s 14 so it cannot be said the he is speaking of meat and wine.....he says “all things”
 
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Before I go further....explain to me what you believe Paul means by “all things are lawful unto me”? This is not Roman’s 14 so it cannot be said the he is speaking of meat and wine.....he says “all things”
I am happy to allow my fellow brethren to “work out salvation in his own mind”, but I typically step forward when I believe there is a chance that a brother in Christ is at risk of condemning himself as Paul says in Romans 14 last verse, I think